Alliant reloading site data less than helpful


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Shmackey
October 4, 2011, 06:22 PM
Has Alliant's online handgun reloading data site (http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/RecipeList.aspx?gtypeid=1) always shown data only for Speer bullets? The Hodgdon/IMR/Winchester site shows data for Sierra, Speer, Hornady, generic lead, and others.

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RTARMS
October 4, 2011, 07:03 PM
Don't think it really matters....what's the difference what brand it says? You're looking for weight...as long as you match the weight with the powder charge it'll be fine. I've been doing that for years with no problems. Literally thousands of rounds (around 300 rifle rounds) and i have never met a load "recipe" 100%. Reloading is not as dangerous as some people make it out to be. But that's just me.

bds
October 4, 2011, 07:10 PM
Google "2004 Alliant Load Data" and you'll find the pdf that has more bullet types including many lead load data.

Enjoy!

Shmackey
October 4, 2011, 07:28 PM
Don't think it really matters....what's the difference what brand it says? You're looking for weight...as long as you match the weight with the powder charge it'll be fine. I've been doing that for years with no problems. Literally thousands of rounds (around 300 rifle rounds) and i have never met a load "recipe" 100%. Reloading is not as dangerous as some people make it out to be. But that's just me.

I'm looking for weight, COAL, and specifically length for a given bullet shape.

Taking a hot FMJ recipe and setting a lead RN bullet back to the COAL of a JHP recipe would not be great.

Shmackey
October 4, 2011, 07:29 PM
Google "2004 Alliant Load Data" and you'll find the pdf that has more bullet types including many lead load data.

Enjoy!
Cool!

rcmodel
October 4, 2011, 07:52 PM
always shown data only for Speer bullets?No.
Only since ATK bought out the sporting arms division of Blount International 10 years ago.

ATK now owns:

Alliant Powder
Speer Bullets
Speer Ammo
Black Cloud Ammo
CCI Ammunition
Champion
Estate Cartridge
Federal Premium
Fusion Ammunition
Gunslick
Nitrex
Outers
Ram-Line
RCBS Reloading
Shooters Ridge
Weaver optics

rc

JohnM
October 4, 2011, 08:10 PM
ATK is one seriously big time company!
Their reach is way deep.

rcmodel
October 4, 2011, 08:15 PM
Yep.

As soon as they own it all they can name their own price too.

In fact, I think we might have already seen some of that already!

rc

gamestalker
October 4, 2011, 08:27 PM
I've noticed that each bullet manufacturer has it's own conflicting data as well and it's been that way for as long as I can remember. But if you avoid being complacient in how you work up, and properely determine the OAL for your firearm, you won't ever encounter any problems.

ReloaderFred
October 4, 2011, 08:29 PM
To the OP, I would suggest investing in some reloading manuals. The Lyman is one of the best. There are others as well. One can never have too many reloading manuals.

Hope this helps.

Fred

PS: rc, the one to watch is the Freedom Group, owned by Cerberus Capital Management. They own: Bushmaster,
Marlin,
Remington,
DPMS,
Dakota Arms and
H&R.
DPMS Panther Arms
NEF
Dakota Arms
LC Smith
Parker
AAC
Barnes Bullets
EOTAC
INTC

oneounceload
October 4, 2011, 09:31 PM
ATK's money comes from DoD contracts - they make weapon systems - this is a mere sideline

Shmackey
October 4, 2011, 10:51 PM
To the OP, I would suggest investing in some reloading manuals. The Lyman is one of the best. There are others as well.


I've got my fair share of manuals, but I wanted to see all their data for Power Pistol in one place, much like you can do for Clays or 4895 at the Hodgdon site.

OldmanFCSA
October 4, 2011, 11:07 PM
I've had serious trouble finding reloading data for Reloder 50. Guessing the proper starting load is a leap of faith when charging a case with 235 grains behind a 800 grain brass bore-rider.

And the reloading catalog I requested "for free" was chardged $0.50 for insurance purposes on an item I never did receive from Powder Valley. A call to their customer service was comical in response.

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