What happened with my die/case?


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IdahoSkies
October 4, 2011, 11:11 PM
I sprayed my cases with one shot case lube like i have done before, and when I was running the shells through my sizing depriming die they were a bit harder than I recalled them being before. I gave the cases another shot of lube and then the a case got stuck, tore out of shell holder on the down stroke stuck solid in the die.

Is the die toast, can I get the case out?

The dies are RCBS 30-06 dies (not carbide). Thanks for the help.

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Strongbad
October 4, 2011, 11:18 PM
Get yourself a stuck case remover kit and pull it out. Happens to every reloader eventually. :)

snuffy
October 4, 2011, 11:21 PM
Your first mistake was using one shot case lube, the second was not following instructions, letting the lube dry before trying to resize.

Now you know why they make stuck case removal kits.

Hondo 60
October 5, 2011, 01:04 AM
+ another on the stuck case removal kit.

Works like a charm.

A lot of people here will warn against using One Shot.
I haven't seen what the hubbub is about.

The only time I've stuck a case is trying to resize w/o lube.
(where I've resized several cases & then try to resize a couple of unlubed ones - hoping the previous cases left enough lube in the die)

Not sayin' they're wrong - just that I haven't had any issues with One Shot.

cfullgraf
October 5, 2011, 07:36 AM
I find One Shot difficult to use successfully with bottle neck cases, but that may be my technique as much as anything.

But, I find it not very efficient to use. A can of One Shot lasts me a few weeks while a bottle of RCBS case lubricant or a tin of Imperial Die Sizing Wax last years.

Get a stuck case remover. If that should not work, I believe RCBS will remove the case for you.

As a side note, even if you could find carbide 30-06 sizing dies, you would still need lubricant. Carbide bottle neck dies are made for high volume reloaders looking for extended die life. Otherwise, you still use them like steel dies with the same limitations. This is different from straight walled hand gun cartridges which do not require lubrication.

I only know of 308 Winchester and 223 Remingon Carbide dies and they are expen$ive. There may be others available from the same sources.

tightgroup tiger
October 5, 2011, 07:48 AM
I use it on my 30-06 shell and have no problem with it. Shake the can well before using, let it dry for at least 5minutes and you shouldn't have any problems.

I used to stick the shells in my re-sizer all the time, then someone on here told me I wasn't letting it dry long enough and they were right.

Imperial wax is highly thought of also, but I can't buy it around where I live.

Good luck

gamestalker
October 5, 2011, 09:07 AM
Did you let them dry for at least 10-15 minutes? I doubt it or the case wouldn't have gotten stuck. I alomost got one stuck when I first started using that kind of lube because I didn't let it dry. Trust me, those spray on lubes work jus fine so long as you allow them to dry completely.

IdahoSkies
October 5, 2011, 11:09 AM
Great thanks. I guess I am in the market for a stuck case removal kit. Thanks. And ya, I did let the cases rest, but probably not long enough.

USSR
October 5, 2011, 11:12 AM
Happens to every reloader eventually.

Here is the correction for the above. "Happens to every reloader who uses One Shot, eventually".

Don

Walkalong
October 5, 2011, 11:15 AM
I reckin that is why I have never stuck a case, as I do not use One Shot, just good old RCBS Case Lube II and Imperial Sizing die Wax. :)

rcmodel
October 5, 2011, 11:16 AM
All you need is a #7 drill bit, a 1/4"x20 tap, a 1/4"x20 bolt & washer, and a socket from a socket wrench set big enough to clear the case head.

Drill the flash hole & tap threads in it.
Put a washer on the bolt, stick it through the socket, and screw it into the case.

Then tighten the bolt and it will pull the case out of the die.

This is what you get in a $20+ buck stuck case remover kit:

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/YaKLkAIKZzXYt4fg0sBbunDy9bXbtInNBwyo8qQR6B26yD9hNvB-m87X7gnUiXAHGHindiB5AgiFpzwlp_VClfPwAaGK8EzJnVhXjqNOPohjEAMRYk6ptkhG82drp6q1mfK5Ds5NlOgCBXPKJaeTEpaTXDYPVQfk26G0yDSE

rc

cfullgraf
October 5, 2011, 01:23 PM
Imperial wax is highly thought of also, but I can't buy it around where I live.

Good luck

Midway and Sinclair carry Imperial Sizing Wax. Probably most of the other mail order houses that carry reloading equipment.

As close as your phone or your computer.

cfullgraf
October 5, 2011, 01:31 PM
I reckin that is why I have never stuck a case, as I do not use One Shot, just good old RCBS Case Lube II and Imperial Sizing die Wax. :)

Never say "Never". I reloaded for close to thirty years and then got a case stuck. It was not lubricated with One Shot but RCBS Case lube.

Not the lubricant's fault though, I let the lube pad get too dry while forming 6.5x54 Mauser cases.

I was too impatient to wait to order one, so out to the shop. I knew what the commercial units looked like so just a matter of doing some shade tree engineering out in the shop.

Walkalong
October 5, 2011, 01:40 PM
Never so far.....

Shmackey
October 5, 2011, 01:43 PM
Hornady One Shot Cleaner is fantastic at cleaning dies and gun actions. Hornady One Shot Case Lube is the f*@&ing devil. I managed to get a case "lubed" with this useless potion so stuck that I broke a case-removing kit trying to extract it. I had to send the die back to the manufacturer.

I have not come close to getting a case stuck since I started using Imperial.

dagger dog
October 5, 2011, 04:13 PM
The instructions on the One Shot can states you must let the cases dry before sizing, I had the same problem, it was pilot error!

Master Blaster
October 5, 2011, 08:48 PM
You can call RCBS and Ship them the die first class mail I think they charge $7 to remove a case and for return shipping combined.

Master Blaster
October 5, 2011, 08:49 PM
So now you learned not to use OneShot welcome to the club.

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