.45 Auto Loads


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SonOfRoost
October 8, 2011, 03:31 PM
I finally managed to move my reloading bench into my basement, and started reloading .45's right away. I've done two different loadouts in the cartridges as of just now. I have a large pile of 230 gr. round nose lead bullets that have proven to feed extremely well in my 1911, as well as a very large number of what I believe to be 185 gr. jacketed hollow points, although I can't check the grains right now. I usually use Unique pistol powder, and was wondering if anyone had any advice on what loads are most effective for their .45's. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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moxie
October 8, 2011, 05:03 PM
I suggest you weigh those bullets before you load them. Unique is an excellent powder for the .45 ACP. "Most effective" is a general term requiring more specificity before anyone could recommend a load. A good reloading handbook like Speer or Lyman would be the place to start.

Drail
October 8, 2011, 10:01 PM
Yup, buy a good reloading manual. Or two. It's all part of the trip man.

rfwobbly
October 8, 2011, 10:16 PM
Lyman would be the better manual for lead

GaryL
October 8, 2011, 11:33 PM
I found 5.2gr of Green Dot behind a 200gr Missouri Bullet #4 IDP works really well in a 1911.

Used the Lyman manual to figure out that load.

lono
October 8, 2011, 11:37 PM
I use 4.8 gr of red dot under 230gr LRN. I have loaded about 1000 rounds at this spec and they seem to work very well with accuracy that is better than WWB. Red Dot is a little smokey but it smells great when shot.

Hondo 60
October 9, 2011, 12:35 AM
How is it, that you're not able to weigh the bullets?

A reloading manual is an ABSOLUTE MUST before beginning to reload.
+1 to Lyman's

A scale is an ABSOLUTE MUST as you begin to reload.
The only way to tell how much powder you're adding is to weigh it.

Neither a manual nor a scale are optional.


Please stay safe!

Kevin Rohrer
October 9, 2011, 12:40 AM
5.9-6.9gr of Unique with 230gr bullets works fine.

lono
October 9, 2011, 11:28 AM
Hondo 60 is absolutely correct.

mnhntr
October 9, 2011, 03:57 PM
How is it, that you're not able to weigh the bullets?

A reloading manual is an ABSOLUTE MUST before beginning to reload.
+1 to Lyman's

A scale is an ABSOLUTE MUST as you begin to reload.
The only way to tell how much powder you're adding is to weigh it.

Neither a manual nor a scale are optional.


Please stay safe!

I was thinking the same thing. How did you weigh your powder charges if you cannot weigh your bullets?

GaryL
October 9, 2011, 06:24 PM
I was thinking the same thing. How did you weigh your powder charges if you cannot weigh your bullets?
Some beam scales only go to 100 gr. or a little over. Which is fine for measuring powder charges. Of course we don't know if the OP is using a scale or not, since there is no mention of it. Could just be using those Lee scoopers to throw charges. Not what I would do or recommend, but people have done it for years with no harm done.

rsrocket1
October 9, 2011, 07:35 PM
Get one of those cheap Harbor Freight Electronic scales. They are worthless for powder measurements, but very good for +/- 1 grain bullet weights as well as counting bullets or cases. When they are on sale they are under $10. Once you know your JHP bullet weights, go to Alliant's website (http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?type=1&powderid=3&cartridge=35) to find the charge of Unique used to shoot that bullet.

For a 185g Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point they say 8.2g max but I would start back at about 6.5 and keep it under 7.5.

Unique shoots fine when using light loads except that since it is a lower pressured powder, you might get blowback, sooty cases and unburned powder flakes when shooting light loads. It cleans up real nice once you get it up to pressure.

ArchAngelCD
October 10, 2011, 02:02 AM
I'm not a fan of Unique so I can't give you charge weights but if you decide to change powders try a charge of 5.5gr W231.

P-32
October 10, 2011, 02:52 AM
I'm not a fan of Unique so I can't give you charge weights but if you decide to change powders try a charge of 5.5gr W231.

Yes and 4.6 grs. of Bullseye plays nice with the 230 gr. lead R/N. This is an old tried and true Bullseye shooters load.

MtnCreek
October 10, 2011, 10:10 AM
as well as a very large number of what I believe to be 185 gr. jacketed hollow points, although I can't check the grains right now.

If you have a scale that only goes to 100grs, cut the bullet in question with bolt cutters and weigh the halves.

Blue68f100
October 10, 2011, 10:23 AM
I'm not a fan of Unique because it does not meter well in my Hornady powder dispenser, LNL-AP. I can do fine in a single stage press but not AP. I'm a big fan of WST in the 45. It burns a lot cleaner than Unique does. Being a fine ball powder it meters great.

TonyT
October 10, 2011, 12:04 PM
The Hodgdon and Alliant websites have lots of data for 45 ACP loads. I prefer tha efaster powders for relatively light loads and use WST or American Select.

SonOfRoost
October 12, 2011, 12:12 AM
I thought it was implied that I had thoroughly weighed all of my components, sorry for the misunderstanding, I have a very nice Hornady scale that goes to 500 grains, and a Hornady reloading manual, with specified charges for my bullets and caliber. I was just wondering if anyone had a between the given velocities charge that works well in their 1911.

A Pause for the Coz
October 12, 2011, 04:12 AM
Here is the thing. Bullseye powder or at least its equivalent was the main powder the US government put in the 1911 45 acp. If it was good enough for WW2 its good enough for me.

I use 4.6gr and my 1911 just loves it. You can get 1,521 shots out of a $15 can of Bullseye.
Word of caution though. You can easily double charge a load of Bullseye in a .45 case. You must be careful, over charging this stuff = a very bad outcome.

Kaeto
October 12, 2011, 11:05 PM
What would be a good powder to use in a .455 Webley using either .45 acp or .45 auto rim cases and .454 dia 255 grain round nose flat point lead projectiles? My manual says Nobelpis 2 or 3 , but I never heard of that brand.

GaryL
October 12, 2011, 11:49 PM
What would be a good powder to use in a .455 Webley using either .45 acp or .45 auto rim cases and .454 dia 255 grain round nose flat point lead projectiles? My manual says Nobelpis 2 or 3 , but I never heard of that brand.
Probably should start a new thread with that topic, if you haven't already done so. You're more likely to catch someone who has done some reloading for the Webley.

Kaeto
October 13, 2011, 12:40 AM
Thanks I'll do that.

Fishslayer
October 14, 2011, 03:03 AM
I use 4.6gr and my 1911 just loves it. You can get 1,521 shots out of a $15 can of Bullseye.
Word of caution though. You can easily double charge a load of Bullseye in a .45 case. You must be careful, over charging this stuff = a very bad outcome.

Love the Bullseye. Safe enough if the loader is paying attention. 9.2gr of Bullseye in a .45ACP case is pretty hard to miss unless there is a severe recto-cranial inversion factor. :D

Where are you getting Bullseye for $15/lb?:eek:

A Pause for the Coz
October 14, 2011, 03:33 AM
Love the Bullseye. Safe enough if the loader is paying attention. 9.2gr of Bullseye in a .45ACP case is pretty hard to miss unless there is a severe recto-cranial inversion factor. :D

Where are you getting Bullseye for $15/lb?:eek:
I went and looked at my can. I paid $15.99 for my last pound of Bullseye. From a guy in Hugo.MN
I have seen two 45's with the barrel blown out from from double loads. ( not me)
So it does happen.

Fishslayer
October 14, 2011, 05:07 AM
So it does happen.

That's why ya need to have yer head in the game. ;)

...and why most of us won't shoot somebody else's reloads.

Couple years ago I was out in Kansas & scored a bunch of BE & 2400 for something like $17/lb & thought I'd made a major score. Here in Kalifornistan I've paid as much as $29/lb.:eek:

lono
October 14, 2011, 09:05 AM
I buy both bullseye and red dot at Sportsman's Warehouse for $17 a pound.

Kosh75287
October 14, 2011, 09:51 PM
There IS an alternative to weighing powder charges, though not an entirely satisfactory one. Lee sells a set of powder dippers and a table of powders showing how much of each powder is delivered by each dipper. This works well for starting to "middlin" loads. For max loads, it's time to weigh powder charges on a balance or digital scale.

Ridgerunner665
October 14, 2011, 10:00 PM
Somebody up there mentioned using 6.9 grains of Unique under a 230 grain bullet...

DO NOT DO IT...

Alliant says 6.1 is max, Hornady says 5.9 is max...with jacketed bullets.

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