I have decided my next purchase will be a bobbed 4.25 1911 in .45.
I have handled one of the Dan Wessons (can't remember which one) very nice!, but, price IS a factor!
The Smith and Wesson E-series Melonite finished one looks very good for the price, I just have never seen one. I have had alloy framed 1911's before and have had the feed ramp look like an orange peel after a few thousand rounds, although it still functioned OK.
Any feedback on this would be great.
Btw, not interested in a Kimber.
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October 9, 2011, 04:56 PM
I don't own one at present but have an interest because I'm trying to decide on a 4.25" bobbed, or 3"
for my next 1911. I like both the looks and the feel of the rounded butt.
October 9, 2011, 05:29 PM
What do you consider a good price on the S&W? Around here they are $1,200, and at that price, it would be a horrible choice at that price point. To put it simply, S&W has a serious quality control problem and has for some time now. The E-Series bobtail at $1200 is still filled with cheap MIM parts and weak springs.
I would highly recommend the Dan Wesson CBOB (Commander Bobtail) or one of the VBOBs (Valor Bobtail). The Valor will fetch more money than the CBOB version, but both pistols are much better pistols than what S&W is putting out.
Don't fall for the pistols that look nice on the outside but are filled with crummy parts. Especially not at the $1200 mark.
October 9, 2011, 05:50 PM
Around here they are $1,200, and at that price, it would be a horrible choice at that price point.
Is Smith and Wessons QC really that bad?
Don't get me wrong I would love to have one of the DW's, its just that S&W has such great CS that it might be worth the risk.
Have you shot one?
October 9, 2011, 05:58 PM
I have a S&W Gunsite Commander (Scandium) that has had a serious problem with MIM parts breaking. It seemed to have a failing MIM part every few hundred rounds. I nipped that bud and replaced almost all the MIM parts with barstock or ed brown cast parts. Only thing left to do is the ignition parts. I will probably leave the MIM grip safety and mainspring housing. We'll see.
A friend of mine recently bought one of the E-Series bobtail. It shoots the same as my Gunsite, with the obvious differences in the feel of the grip. We are working through some issues with his pistol. One problem with his is the shape of the magazine catch causing problems inserting the magazine smoothly. We fixed the issue, but he will probably wind up replacing it with a barstock part. Plunger tube spring also seems way too light. The thumb safety and slide lock do not lock very solid. The factory magazine springs were also weak. They're a joke. Thumb safety was also poorly fitted and gouged the frame a little. Had the same problem on my Gunsite. Another problem that both of these pistols is having is the ejector shape is changing. After a few hundred rounds, his started ejecting empties straight at the forehead every now and then. I had that same problem with the original factory MIM ejector.
Handsome pistol, as is my Gunsite, but my experience with them has been that they are better thought of as "base guns" than something you can use and abuse right out of the box.
October 9, 2011, 06:14 PM
I love the bobbed tail on my Commander-sized 1911. My wife likes hers as well. If you have trouble finding a Bobtail model out there that fits your needs, why not consider buying a brand with a standard frame that you feel comfortable about and bob it yourself or have it done?
October 9, 2011, 06:41 PM
Try before you cut. I have both the guns shown below and both shoot with equal accuracy. Actually the Kimber is a more natural pointer for me than the Ed Brown.