Two 'different' .357mg 125gr SJHP from Remington?


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Warp
October 9, 2011, 08:52 PM
There is the Remington R357M1 available in 50 round boxes but then there is the Remington L357M1B available in 100 round boxes.

CTD's listing for each:

50 round Remington Express: $38
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemDetail.aspx?sku=66247

100 round UMC: $52 (Walmart has them for $48 locally, I have bought two)
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemDetail.aspx?sku=34880

They are each 125gr SJHP listed at 1450 FPS. They each have the scalloped semi jacket. They are both hot.

What's the difference?

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Mike1234567
October 9, 2011, 09:19 PM
Remington Express vs. UMC (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=158217)

Warp
October 9, 2011, 09:22 PM
Could you please, in your own words, paraphrase the differences according to what you have read?

.357 isn't even mentioned in that 6 year old thread.

I guess the Express is supposedly held a little bit higher standard of quality, some people say?

Deaf Smith
October 9, 2011, 09:25 PM
I understand they use the same slugs but one of them, no doubt the higher priced, use flash retardant powders and and maybe the cases are sealed better from moisture.

Deaf

Pyro
October 9, 2011, 09:27 PM
Isn't UMC Remington as well?
As far as I know UMC is like the Remington version of WWB.

HadEmAll
October 9, 2011, 09:36 PM
The Express load in the 50 round green and yellow box has a nickled case. The UMC load in the 100 round boxes has a brass case. They both use the same semi-jacketed bullet. They both chronograph the same out of my GP100 and SP101. The UMC may burn a little dirtier, but I can't swear to it.

There is also a 125 grain Golden Saber load which I know nothing about.

Warp
October 9, 2011, 09:50 PM
Ahhh, a nickel plated case is something I can understand spending the additional money for if it was to be used for carry/defensive use.

The Golden Saber load is a little bit more moderate than the blazing hot 125 SJHP

HadEmAll
October 10, 2011, 12:51 AM
Yes, the plated cases extract easier and more reliably from my 3 .357s. I carry the Express, and practice with the UMCs.

But if the UMCs were all I had, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. Just be sure and smack that ejection rod smartly.

2zulu1
October 10, 2011, 03:24 PM
Nickel plated cases and cleaner burning powder, the older stuff is really dirty.

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