Looking for a good all around pistol powder


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biga972
October 12, 2011, 11:01 AM
I load for 380, 9mm, 40, 45acp. I have been using titegroup but thinking there might be a better powder out there for me.


The titegroup in my 45 seems to blow back unburnt powder that I am not happy with.

9mm and 45 it leaves a big burnt mark on the cases.


Looking for opinions.

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MtnCreek
October 12, 2011, 11:05 AM
Don't know anything about .380, but the other 3 can be loaded w/ HP38 for pretty good plinker loads. If you wanted something w/ a little more horsepower, try Power Pistol.

bds
October 12, 2011, 11:06 AM
W231/HP-38 would be a good alternative. Will burn clean with no particles hitting your face/arm at mid-to-high range load data and no burn marks on side of cases.

The Bushmaster
October 12, 2011, 11:06 AM
W-231.....Period.

Robert101
October 12, 2011, 11:30 AM
I use Unique as my base target pistol powder. You can find data for any caliber from 380 to 44 mag with this powder. It's cost effective too. Nothing fancy but its Mr. Magic for pistols.

You didn't ask, but I use Blue Dot for my magnum loads in 44 and 10MM.

Steve H
October 12, 2011, 11:32 AM
W 231 or Unique

REL1203
October 12, 2011, 11:33 AM
W231 or Universal

Kevin Rohrer
October 12, 2011, 11:40 AM
Unique. It it's called that for a reason.

sellersm
October 12, 2011, 12:01 PM
Win 231/HP38 for lighter loads, Unique for full power. Power Pistol is a good choice as well, but it has more muzzle flash if that matters to you (you should see it out of my compensated glock barrels!!!).

bds
October 12, 2011, 12:19 PM
I thought OP was asking for alternate to faster burning Titegroup ...

Yes, slower than Unique for full-power loads.

sellersm
October 12, 2011, 01:05 PM
Hs-6, wst...

CZ57
October 12, 2011, 07:27 PM
Made to load in everything from .380 to .454, Ramshot True Blue works for all pistol cartridges and meters like fine sand. The better ball powder equivalent to Unique. ;)

1SOW
October 12, 2011, 11:22 PM
True Blue will run, but it's a slow powder that's dirty and has lots of muzzle blast with light loads in 9mm.

bds: W231/HP-38 would be a good alternative. Will burn clean with no particles hitting your face/arm at mid-to-high range load data and no burn marks on side of cases

231/HP38 to replace Titegroup
OR Vihtavuori n320

mnhntr
October 12, 2011, 11:30 PM
I also use alot of tightgroup but I like A#5 also.

beatledog7
October 12, 2011, 11:50 PM
I may be in the minority, but I like Bullseye for non-Magnum handgun loads. Meters well, goes a long way, and I don't mind the somewhat snappy recoil you get from a fast powder. I use it in .40 S&W and .38 SPL.

GP100man
October 13, 2011, 12:17 AM
If I was runnin out the door as the SHTF I`d grab all the 231/hp38 I could to go with the rest in the bug out bag !!!

Good all `round powder ,if I had to say where it shines it would be 5.0grs. in 45 acp 230gr. hardball ammo.

Meters good as water & burns fairly clean if the pressures are close to moderate .

zxcvbob
October 13, 2011, 12:24 AM
Bullseye or Green Dot or HP38. Or Promo if you're just loading light target stuff.

I just discovered Rex3 powder a few months ago. Great stuff; it's like a single-base version of Universal Clays. Of course the company went under and it all disappeared before I could buy a bunch.

Shmackey
October 13, 2011, 12:37 AM
Universal or 231.

I guess I'm in the minority, but I detest Unique. Rifle powders are one thing, but life's too short to load with handgun powders that meter poorly.

rsrocket1
October 13, 2011, 12:37 AM
Unique is an ideal all around powder but ought to be loaded on the high end, otherwise since it is a lower pressure powder, you'll get exactly what you have with your current loads, blowback in your face, sooty cases and lots of unburned flakes left over. I've never had a problem metering Unique with my powder measures, but like the above post some folks have a problem with it.

If you are looking for reduced loads, Red Dot burns fast, gets the pressure up quickly and is bulky enough to notice a double charge. You won't get the maximum velocities that you do with Unique or Power Pistol because it burns up all at once before the bullet goes very far, but with the higher pressures with lower charges, the case expands to seal off the gasses quickly.

Promo burns similar to Red Dot, but costs way less. The only catch is that you have to buy 8 pounds at a time.

ArchAngelCD
October 13, 2011, 05:05 AM
I have to add my voice to W231. (HP-38) It will be a good replacement for Titegroup. It's an outstanding powder for both the .380 and .45 ACP. It works very will in the 9mm too but in the 40 S&W it might be just a little on the "just OK" side but that's a guess because I don't load for the 40 S&W. I do load the others and I use W231. In the 40 S&W W231 will generate about 100 fps less than the slower powders like Longshot. (which is the best powder for the 40 S&W IMO)

There is a new powder that will do all 4 calibers well, it's Winchester AutoComp. I have not used it personally but I know a few reloaders who have and they do like AutoComp in all 4 of the calibers you are asking about. I'm a big fan of W231 and I can recommend it because I use it but because of the 40 S&W being in the mix AutoComp might be a better choice.

biga972
October 13, 2011, 10:55 AM
Guys thanks for the all the post I thank I will try 231. Seems to be the fav. I do have some autocomp at the house and will do some trials on the 40 of it and the 231.


Thanks again

swampshooter
October 13, 2011, 10:56 AM
Unique or 231.

MtnCreek
October 13, 2011, 11:48 AM
I would find some good loads for the AutoComp that you have on hand before I purchased the 231. It's a good powder for the 9, 40 & 45. It'll give more velocity / recoil than a mid range 231 load. When shopping for Win 231, I buy it labeled as HP-38; it's a little cheaper (but same-same).

zxcvbob
October 13, 2011, 11:53 AM
How does AutoComp work in revolver cartridges? Especially .38 Special +P and midrange .41 Magnum. Anybody tried it?

9mm and 45 it [Titegroup] leaves a big burnt mark on the cases.

That's one of the things I hate about using TG in .38. I have just a little bit left and am gonna use it up in 9mm; hoped the tapered case would prevent the scorch marks on the brass.

Deavis
October 13, 2011, 11:49 PM
Power Pistol, top performance or mid-range appropriate. The flash can be a bit much, but for practice it isn't an issue like, say #9.

Fishslayer
October 14, 2011, 02:01 AM
Guys thanks for the all the post I thank I will try 231. Seems to be the fav. I do have some autocomp at the house and will do some trials on the 40 of it and the 231.


W231 is a good all around powder, but why not add something faster like Green Dot or Bullseye to your bag of tricks? Futzing around is half the fun! ;)

Uniquedot
October 14, 2011, 03:47 PM
Unique, acc #5, w231.

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