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Oxifer54 October 13, 2011, 08:29 PM I have a dilema. I need to get rid of a handgun and I have it narrowed down to either my Beretta PX4 or my Springfield XDM 3.8. They both shoot great and the pro's and con's are pretty close.
The Beretta has a 4" rotating barrel hold 17 rounds and is hammer fired. The Springfield has a 3.8" barrel holds 19 rounds and is striker fired. The Beretta has the Italian style and the Springfield is more of a traditional look. I am confident shooting both of them and they are booth equally comfortable in ergos.
Does anyone have any insight?
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james_bond October 13, 2011, 08:44 PM The XDm will be the easiest to get again, they are always up for sale, but
the PX4 may fetch a better price so you might want to sell that one.
hammerklavier October 13, 2011, 09:17 PM I'd keep the PX4 for the reasons you mentioned (rotating barrel, hammer fired, etc).
Mr.Blue October 13, 2011, 09:24 PM I'd keep the XDm, as I hate Beretta's customer service. Springfield always stands behind their products. Both are good guns, but I like to know that I'm covered if something breaks.
Oxifer54 October 14, 2011, 12:12 AM Thanks for the prompt responses. The debate I am truly having is 19 rounds vs 17 rounds and striker vs hammer fired. Stupid hospital bill!:banghead: I wish I could keep them both. I might just take them both in and see what get offered and sell the one that will get me the highest profit.
REDMASTA October 14, 2011, 12:30 AM I'd keep the Beretta just a personal preference.
DC3-CVN-72 October 14, 2011, 12:50 AM keep the XDM. :)
The_Armed_Therapist October 14, 2011, 11:05 AM If the PX4 is the full-size or even the compact-size, it almost makes more sense to me to sell that one. I base this on my preference for bigger guns in bigger calibers (.40, .357, .44, .45, 10mm) and smaller guns for smaller calibers (9mm, 9x18, .380, .32, .38 spl)
If they are both sub-compact, basically the same size, then I would keep the Beretta. Not only do I think the Beretta feels better in the hand and looks a LOT better, but the sub-compact XD will be in every store and on every website, whereas the sub-compact Beretta Storm is harder to find.
The_Armed_Therapist October 14, 2011, 11:07 AM Wait... your 3.8" barrel XD holds 19 rounds? Are you using extended mags?
David E October 14, 2011, 11:34 AM The 3.8 XDM (not XD) has the full size grip. The full size mag holds 19 rds. Add one in the chamber and you have 20 rounds of 9mm goodness ready to go!
Mec-Gar makes a mag for the XD that holds 18 rds of 9mm if you're interested. I got mine thru CDNN
Cornhusker77 October 14, 2011, 12:19 PM My experience with the customer service of each:
Beretta Tomcat: Had it about a year and a half, maybe 2 years, has less than 200 rounds through it and I discovered the frame is broken right above the trigger pin. It's a known problem.
Beretta refused to fix it and referred me to some gun shop in Missouri that had no idea what I was talking about and told me to call Beretta.
It now sits in a box, a complete waste of money. I can't even sell it like that.
Springfield XD9: Picked it up used, looked pretty tough, some dunce tried to paint it and one mag was crap. It was failing to extract 2 or 3 rounds out of every mag, so I called Springfield to see about buying an extractor.
They told me to send it in. They were real nice, sent me a prepaid label, I sent it to them and had it back in less than a week with the new extractor and all cleaned up.
Didn't cost me a dime.
Based on customer service, I'd keep the XDM, not to mention, the Xds are a good solid gun.
Onward Allusion October 14, 2011, 01:01 PM Keep the PX4 - hammer fired, rotating lock, better ergonomics AND you can easily get FACTORY 20 round mags for it so the capacity difference goes out the window.
Skylerbone October 14, 2011, 01:12 PM I think paintball made capacity an issue. When the round count hits double digits it's a fire fight and if what you brought is a handgun, better think more about exit strategy.
As for which to keep, keep the one you have the better holster for.
miles1 October 14, 2011, 02:13 PM keep the xdm imho.
PT92 October 14, 2011, 02:19 PM Oxifer54
...Which 9mm would you keep?
I have a dilema...
I have been there myself but I always look for an alternative other than disposing of a 'desired' gun--just another shooter I could get rid of absent second-thoughts. Maybe you can find another way if it's something you don't want to unload.
Nevertheless, good luck with your decision!
-Cheers
jeff49 October 14, 2011, 02:30 PM keep the xdm. money always matters, the xdm will save you money in the end on accessories. but sell the one you can make the most money on.
NG VI October 14, 2011, 03:13 PM If it's that 3.8 with the ridiculous full-length grip, ditch it I says.
I like a consistent trigger pull, but a compact sized slide on a full-length grip frame makes no sense to me. I think the PX4 is a little long in the grip for a 4" gun too, but that's just my love of Glock 19/FNP-9M/CZ PCR proportions talking.
David E October 14, 2011, 03:22 PM Keep the PX4 - hammer fired, rotating lock, better ergonomics AND you can easily get FACTORY 20 round mags for it so the capacity difference goes out the window.
Better ergonomics? Really?? The XDM has interchangeable backstraps, a better trigger pull, etc, etc.
The Beretta 20 rd factory mag also doubles as a mono-pod, it sticks out so far. Get some after market base pads for the XDM, the mags will be just as long as the Beretta, but hold 24 rds +1
JohnGalt88 October 14, 2011, 05:43 PM I have seen a good many used XDM's and most gun shops carry the XD line. Every now and then i get emails from various venders about deals on XDM's.
I can count on one hand the number of times i have seen a PX4 in person and i have never seen them on sale.
All things being equal i would keep the PX4.
ProCarryNAustin October 14, 2011, 05:53 PM Check with the hospital to see if they will allow you to pay in installments. I have been in your shoes before and the hospital was very accomodating.
That way you might be able to keep both.
Onward Allusion October 14, 2011, 07:08 PM David E
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Originally Posted by Onward Allusion
Keep the PX4 - hammer fired, rotating lock, better ergonomics AND you can easily get FACTORY 20 round mags for it so the capacity difference goes out the window.
Better ergonomics? Really?? The XDM has interchangeable backstraps, a better trigger pull, etc, etc.
The Beretta 20 rd factory mag also doubles as a mono-pod, it sticks out so far. Get some after market base pads for the XDM, the mags will be just as long as the Beretta, but hold 24 rds +1
Ergonomics is eye of the beholder. BTW, the PX4 also has interchangeable backstraps. The XDM has the ergos of a Glock while the PX4 has curves that fit the plam. The 3.8" on the XDM also makes it off-balanced. I would leave the PX4 alone as far as extended mags are concerned. 17+1 is more than enough in a pistol. Yes, I have shot both. With all that said.....I think the Sigma has damn good ergos too. ;)
David E October 14, 2011, 07:25 PM The XDM feels nothing like a Glock, which is a good thing. Many prefer the balance of this XDM "Commander," even tho it may not make sense on paper.
The PX4 "feels" good, but has a long trigger reach coupled with a long, hard trigger pull with long reset.
I'd keep the one I shot best.
2005 Vette October 14, 2011, 07:36 PM I wouldn't part with either of them sell something else. You can never have enough guns.
Onward Allusion October 14, 2011, 07:50 PM i'd keep the one i shot best.
this ^^^
Oxifer54 October 14, 2011, 08:59 PM You guys are amazing! 22 responses to my first post! My current plan is to take both to the range and shoot 50 rounds in each. Then I am going to take them both to the gun shop and see how much they will give me for each. This should clear up any questions I have.
You guys truly are great.
PT92 October 14, 2011, 09:05 PM You guys are amazing! 22 responses to my first post! My current plan is to take both to the range and shoot 50 rounds in each. Then I am going to take them both to the gun shop and see how much they will give me for each. This should clear up any questions I have.
You guys truly are great.
You are right about this place--It's a great forum to say the least and the guys are indeed helpful/insightful.
Plz keep up posted with your decision.
-Cheers
David E October 14, 2011, 09:22 PM The gun store will offer about 1/2 their actual worth. $300 max, probably closer to $200
Onward Allusion October 15, 2011, 10:14 AM Oxifer54
You guys are amazing! 22 responses to my first post! My current plan is to take both to the range and shoot 50 rounds in each. Then I am going to take them both to the gun shop and see how much they will give me for each. This should clear up any questions I have.
You guys truly are great.
One more suggestion. Spend a $1 and get registered on Gunbroker.com. This way you can search on what the XDMc 9mm and your PX4 9mm sold for in the past 90 days based on the condition of your guns.
On Gunbroker, a new XDMc will generally go for between $480 to $550 plus another $25 in shipping and whatever transfer fee there may be. With regard to the PX4 Storm in 9mm, a guy that I've purchased multiple times from is selling them for $369 plus another $20 for shipping plus transfer fee.
Purgatory October 15, 2011, 10:22 AM Wait... your 3.8" barrel XD holds 19 rounds? Are you using extended mags?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all 9mm XDm's are 19+1 from the factory.
redfisher43 October 15, 2011, 11:10 PM Keep bofem. Deliver pizzas. Hospital will work with you.
jackpinesavages October 16, 2011, 01:10 AM Keep the PX4
Pilot October 16, 2011, 06:49 AM You will lose your shirt taking them to a gun store. Either keep them both or sell one on here or on another on line sources like Gunbroker or Gunsamerica.
MrWesson October 16, 2011, 11:48 AM Going DA to SA is kind of a pain I vote keep the XD.
SpentCasing October 16, 2011, 12:09 PM Keep the Beretta. Those are damn fine pistols.
Oxifer54 October 18, 2011, 11:06 PM I ended up keeping both my Springfield XDm 3.8 and my Beretta PX4. I actually found a buyer for my Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22. I ended up getting way more than I thought I would for the M&P so it saved me from having to sell either hand gun. Thanks for the great advice. I will definitely look at THR as my new gun forum home.
Thanks!
firemanstrickland October 18, 2011, 11:08 PM I would keep the springfield
cfullgraf October 18, 2011, 11:26 PM I wouldn't part with either of them sell something else. You can never have enough guns.
Yes!
WinThePennant October 19, 2011, 03:37 PM I agree 100% with ProCarry.
NEVER SELL ASSETS JUST TO PAY A HOSPITAL BILL. As long as you make payments, hospitals are normally very understanding in slow payments.
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