What's a Good Quality Brand of .22LR Ammo?


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usnavymasterchief
January 28, 2004, 07:39 PM
I just picked up a really nice Ruger MK II target pistol in .22LR.
Can someone recommend a good quality brand of readily available ( like Wally World ) clean shooting .22LR ammo? I don't want any 2k for a buck stuff, this gun is too good for that. This is for indoor range use only. I am very familier with most higher caliber ammo but haven't used a twenty two since I was a kid, many, many moons ago and have lost touch with the various brands of good .22LR ammo. Thanks a lot.

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Tropical Z
January 28, 2004, 07:48 PM
Its gonna depend on your gun more than anything else.My .22lr handguns are all reliable and accurate using Remingtons golden bullet bulk packs.Wal-Mart has em for less than $10.00 so thats good with me.I wont keep a .22lr that requires premium ammo such as CCI's mini mags or the like.That takes most of the fun out of shooting a .22lr in the first place.

QuarterBoreGunner
January 28, 2004, 07:54 PM
.22s are notoriously finicky in what they will shoot well. I’ve tried numerous times to get a single brand that all my .22s would like equally. Snake eyes every time. Thankfully my .22 target rifles all seem to like Wolf Gold Match and sometimes if I have the cash Eley 10X. For the handguns it’s usually CCI Mini Mags or Winchester Super X.

killermarmot
January 28, 2004, 08:15 PM
I'm with quarter bore on the cci and winchester they have been very good to me, I've had very little problems with remington but the two i've had consistant problems with were federal and pmc. I tried both pmc zapper (cheap stuff) and their sidewinder ammo and it seems to be alot dirtier than anything else. I think the little extra money for the cci mini magas is well worth it, they have never given me a misfeed or misfire in any of the 7 .22s i've used it in.

45R
January 28, 2004, 08:27 PM
Winchester Dynapoints seem to run pretty clean and accurate through my Rugers.

HSMITH
January 28, 2004, 08:28 PM
Between myself and my shooting buddies we go through 1500-2000 22 shells per week. THE absolute worst is Remington, garbage on all accounts. Duds, squibs, and just garbage ammo. Good cheap ammo is the Federal 550 pack, or the Winchester SuperX. Good ammo is CC Green Tag, Eley ___, Federal Gold Medal, basically any match grade ammo.

12 Volt Man
January 28, 2004, 09:12 PM
I second the Federal 550 bulk pack from Wally World. I have shot many rounds through 22 rifles, but none through pistols. Try it out. I think they are only 8 or 9 bucks for that many rounds.

usnavymasterchief
January 28, 2004, 09:19 PM
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the input, sounds like the Federal 550 is the way to go.
Shooting a .22 pistol will be a new experience for me. All my other pistols are .357 Sig and Magnum, .45ACP, .40S&W and a .380acp so it will weird shooting with no recoil but i'm sure it will be fun and I look forward to it. Not to mention that the .22 will put a smaller dent in the pension check.
Thanks again.

Mal H
January 28, 2004, 10:02 PM
I agree with the above. Dynapoints and Fed 550 are very good in the econopak sizes; followed by some better grade stuff like Win Super X (not to be confused with Xpert which isn't very good) or CCI Mini-Mags or Stingers; followed by the high grade Eley, Fed Match (900 A or B), Lapua Multi-Match, etc.

For me, the Dynapoints are a little more accurate in my guns than the Federals, but both are dependable. As Tropical Z stated, it really depends on your gun. It's amazing how one brand is a winner in one gun and only average in another; even in different samples of the same model gun.

Note my lack of recommendation of Remingtons. I've not found them to be consistent in quality in any of their various offerings. I've had more FTF's with them than any other brand.

R.H. Lee
January 28, 2004, 10:34 PM
I have a Ruger Mk II Target pistol, stainless 6/78" bbl. and a coupla 10/22's. The Federal 500 rd bricks from KMart at $10 per work flawlessly.
I have shot many thousands of these with only 2 ftf.:D

cornbread2
January 28, 2004, 11:04 PM
All serious smallbore shooters agree on ONE thing. They constantly debate which rifle or pistol is best or which scope or whatever but one thing stands out as being the whole truth that no one will question.

Remington bulk pack ammo is the worst rimfire ammo you can buy. It is junk now and has been for the last 20 years.


On average it has a 40% varaition in powder charge.

No auto pistols or rifles work well with such junk.

Majic
January 28, 2004, 11:05 PM
Your best bet is to buy 50 round boxes of everything and try them. You never really know what your firearm will like till you try it. Don't buy the bulk till you are sure that's the ammo your gun prefers. What some may have and call junk your gun may shoot one holers with. I've seen it happen many times.

BTW don't expect no .22lr ammo to be clean shooting. When cleaning don't forget to clean aound the extractor.

Sactown
January 28, 2004, 11:40 PM
I've run Win Dynapoint through both my MkIIs, Trailside, and 10/22 withount any problems. They shoot clean and damn accurate.

cornbread2
January 29, 2004, 12:07 AM
You will find bad lots of almost any cheap ammo but on average the best cheap .22 ammo is

Winchester Dynapoint
CCI Blazer
Federal Lightning

Sometimes Winchester Wildcat works well in auto pistols.

Tropical Z
January 29, 2004, 11:28 AM
This is weird.Ive found Federals bulk packs to be extremely inconsistent and inaccurate.I run Remington without a hitch in my S&W 422,Beretta Neos and FEG SMC-22.

Mike Irwin
January 29, 2004, 12:01 PM
I like the Federal 250-round value packs.

DougCxx
January 29, 2004, 12:14 PM
Once you get above around $10/per box of 50, the ammo starts getting very, very consistent--in most any gun you put it in. Eley, RWS and Lapua are pretty good bets here. ....I am regularly amused by people who will pay for a fairly accurate gun and then wonder why it doesn't shoot $2 or $3/box ammo into one hole at 50 yards.
......
Although I admit I have not had the chance to try the current Dynapoints as the Wal-Marts in my area cannot seem to get them at all. They all carry the 22WMR, but none even have shelf space for the LR.
~

Waitone
January 29, 2004, 07:44 PM
My Browning was a little picky until I did two things. First I shoot only high velocity .22LR. Second, I end each session by running a boresnake while the barrel is still warm.

No FTF's. Greatly reduced FTE's.

SteelyDan
January 30, 2004, 12:03 AM
I'll agree with most of the others. More than any other sized cartridge, the .22s seem to favor or disfavor certain manufacturer's offerings. The only way to find out which ones your gun likes is to try a bunch of them.

Mr Jody Hudson
January 30, 2004, 06:50 AM
Although most .22s are finicky on ammo... one that is usually in the top three for any of my MANY .22 rifles and pistols, as far as accuracy and reliability is Aguilla 40 gr. standard velocity... it shoots better than match ammo in some of my guns and is also about as inexpensive as it gets.

You will probably have to get it in a minimum of 500 rounds online but I've never tried to buy that small a quantity...

zahc
January 30, 2004, 09:53 AM
I bought remington once when they were out of federal. Dirtiest ammo ever. Actually pretty accurate in my 10/22 but not worth it.

jefmad
January 30, 2004, 10:51 AM
The first thing I would suggest is that you first buy a brick of Hi-velocity ammo and shoot that through the Ruger before you start to test what works best. The springs need to be worked in and using something like Mini Mags or Federal Lightning will make your pistol operate much more reliably while you break it in. I was lucky in that my Ruger likes the Lightnings @.79 per box.

cratz2
January 30, 2004, 11:19 AM
I have a friend that is an excellent shooter. He has an older (bought before 1986) Ruger and he used to swear by the $3.00/50 Federal Gold Match Target. One day we went shooting and I brought about 10 different boxes of 22LR ammo and he figured out that $.88/50 Federal Lightning shot absolutely as accurately for him, in his gun, on that day as the Gold Match.

Seriously... don't knock the cheap stuff until you find out for sure that a particular expensive ammo is better for you and in your gun than all the cheap stuff. And you can't just compare Ely Super Grand Master Wizard Compatition stuff to one box of Super-Xs... You have to try a variety.

cornbread2
January 30, 2004, 11:48 AM
The most commom problem with cheap .22 ammo is inconsistant powder charges.

On a semi auto .22 a round with the correct powder charge will blow the bolt back sharply and eject the empty case and pick up fresh round from the mag just as the gun was designed to work.

If the next round that goes into the chamber only has a half powder charge that is the round that will jam the gun.

A weak round will also not be in the group. At 25 yards it will be close enough but at 75 it will shoot very low.

You have to have consistant ammo to function in an auto.

Majic
January 30, 2004, 12:16 PM
You can buy a brick of ammo, sort thru it by weight, bullet nose condition, crimp, and rim thickness and find that most brands shoots accurately.

foghornl
January 30, 2004, 01:49 PM
Part of the fun of a .22 is finding the 'best' ammo for that particular gun. Case in point, my 2 different .22 rifles. Nylon 66 I had as a teen liked anything except the Rem 36 Gr hollow point "Golden Bullet". Go figure..a Rem rifle that hated Rem ammo. My Marlin 99 favors that same Rem over anything else, but the Federal 525 round value pack is close. Neither gun liked the CCI Mini-Mag.

Oh, well....buy 50 or 100 of each brand/style you can find, till you see what works in YOUR gun

Master Blaster
January 30, 2004, 03:09 PM
I like federal 550 copper plated bulk pack for semi autos that like high velocity ammo. My Izmash Biathalon basic rifle shoots .25-.35" groups off the bench at 50 yards with the fed bulk pack, very few squibs, in many thousands of rounds.

I have had the remmingto golden bullets stuff give me a different report and POI with every shot, I actually threw 2 boxes of it away, when I first bought it years ago it was fine so the QC on it has deteriorated.

Match ammo My Anschutz rifle likes Federal Gold Medal Target at about $24 per 500 brick. I also tried eley tenex, club extra and the match target stuff and they all did about the same at 50 yards off the bench. The federal GM fouled my match chamber less so I use that, and it costs less than half what the eley costs. I have also had good luck with PMC scoremaster standard velocity ammo, which is the same as Aguila standard vel.

My model 41 loves the PMC scoremaster. I used to buy CCI standard velocity for the 41 but the last half case had 2 or three duds per box.
Scoremaster is $15 per brick.

Ruger MKIIs seem to like high velocity ammo better so federal lightning or fed bulk pack are good choices.

cornbread2
January 30, 2004, 03:42 PM
I shoot three position and dewar competition and in the summer we practice a lot.

I can not afford to buy match ammo for practice. I found that CCI Blazer shoots well in my rifle so it is my practice ammo.

For practice in the 100 yard prone I weigh the rounds on a digital scale and sort them out into lots of exact weight.

I take the rounds of exact weight and use a rim guage to weed out all the out of spec rims.

CCI Blazer sorted by weight and rim thickness shoots as well or better than some match ammo at 100 yards in my rifle.

I have a friend that does the same thing with Federal Lightning.

CCI standard velocity weight and rim sorted is as good or better than Green Tag.

For overall good match quality ammo at a reasonable price it is hard to beat Wolf MT. Some rifles shoot it as well as really high dollar ammo.

makarov
January 30, 2004, 03:57 PM
If you can find it cheap, I like the Wolf Match Target (not the high end stuff) at about $20 per brick of 500. It is good stuff.

Also have had good luck with CCI Standard Velocity.

Federal Match Target is good too.

Cheap stuff - anything. I have shot lots of different brands and for plinking at 25 yards to me it doesn't matter too much. The only gun I have that is a little finnicky is my Browning Medalist. I feed it the Wolf or Federal. My CZ rifles and Mossy's will shoot anything pretty well. Now, if it was a competition or something that would be different. Minute of pop can or shooting golf balls.... Give it all a try.

greg700
January 30, 2004, 04:47 PM
For plinking, CCI and Winchester are pretty good.

For target shooting, Eley is my favorite brand. When I used to shoot smallbore (rifle though) I would shoot matches and the practice or two before with eley benchrest gold ammunition (It's really expensive though). I would usually practice with Eley Club X-tra, it is relatively cheap, very consistent, and unusually accurate for the money.

I used to use the eley ammunition (mostly because it was what I had on hand) when I went plinking w/ the ruger mkII, and it worked very well. The only drawback to Eley ammunition is it's seeming incompatibility with other brands of ammunition (I know it sounds wierd), but my target rifle, and the MKII would digest standard ammunition, and eley ammunition all day long, but if I started shooting Eley ammo and switched to another brand (like the Federal target ammo), my weapon would jam.

The only thing I can think of that would cause this is the thick coating of wax/lube on eley bullets.

Anyway, for plinking, you can't go wrong with CCI or Winchester ammo, but if you really want accuracy, try everything Eley makes, one of their rounds will probably shoot really really well out of your pistol.

kimbernut
January 31, 2004, 11:11 AM
Master Chief, you've chosen a great plinker and/or target pistol. Disassembly is a piece of cake on my MarkII Target however re-assembly is a different story. I just have to wait (it seems) for the gun to want to go back together again. Parts fit is extremely tight but I'm sure that's part of what makes it so accurate and I'm sure it will get better in time. The Winchester Dyna-point works best for me in both the Mark II and my 10/22 and gives me 1" groups.The Fed. 550 at best will keep a 1-1/2 " group. The Fed. Gold Match will keep 1/2" groups in the 10/22 but will not cycle either the MarkII nor the 10/22. If you can find either the Wolf or the Aquilla buy it. In central Fl.It can be extremely hard to find and in many guns shoots better than any of the ammo mentioned above. Good shootin'!

Pepe Domingo
February 1, 2004, 10:36 PM
I know that this seems to run against the grain, but hands down the best inexpensive .22 ammunition that has been run through all of my pistols and rifles has been Remington Thunderbolt.

I was involved in a test of 10/22 barrels about six years ago. Through six different barrels and 11 brands of ammunition, Thunderbolt was behind only Eley, Federal Gold Medal, and Winchester T-22 as far as accuracy went.

I probably have over 5,000 rounds of it through my MKII.

As a reasonably well educated man who has at least average motor skills and mechanical ability, I am still driven to fits getting my MKII back together. Why I cannot accomplish this task quickly and efficiently is totally beyond me.

silent one
February 2, 2004, 09:39 AM
I have a standard Ruger mk 2, and I use CCI blazer standard velocity ammo. [.85 a box from Natchez shooting supply]. Every so often I shoot CCI stinger ammo,[ 2.99 a box], and I have very good luck with both.
I find .22 ammo inherently dirty ammo. It is important to keep the firearm clean and lubed. I see shooters at the range complain of malfunctions,but when you look at their weapon, they're filthy. Don't blame the ammo, when it's a filthy firearm that's usually to blame.
Good luck, and be safe.


SILENT ONE

Bruce H
February 2, 2004, 10:15 AM
All I shoot in My .22s is Winchester T22 target standard velocity. I've never had a .22 that didn't shoot very well with it.

Mike Bruno
February 3, 2004, 12:20 AM
My Ruger Mark II loves the CCI Standard and of course, all the Eley, RWS, etc match ammo is great through it........

SC_shooter
February 3, 2004, 11:23 AM
I have had good luck with my Mark II with

CCI Blazers
Dynapoints
Federal American Eagle LRN - though the jacketed rounds shoot pretty good.
Wolf Match Target - the absolute best in my pistol and my 10/22.
Winchester Super-X.

The Remington bulk ammo is absolute garbage. Or at least, that is my experience.

Paul

rogerxd45
June 3, 2008, 04:48 AM
i love the remington bulk ammo. they work 99.9% in all of my 22s (savage 64, walther p22, ruger charger 10/22)
and they have an actual hollow point where as the federal has a small dent

plexreticle
June 3, 2008, 04:59 AM
For bulk plinking ammo I like Federal.

For serious work I have a large variety of different brands and weights. I bench rest and find one the gun likes. Every 22LR is different even if they are the same make and model.

2nd 41
June 3, 2008, 08:20 AM
Remington bulk pack ammo is the worst rimfire ammo you can buy. It is junk now and has been for the last 20 years.
I strongly agree with this. Remington Bulks are a bad choice

I use Federal Champions. I do get an occasional FTFire but can live with it for the cost per box. I use them with a S&W Mod41, Browning BuckMark NRA, 10/22, Walther G22.

Tribal
June 3, 2008, 08:57 AM
I've found that the copper-coated rounds, such as Federal 550 or Mini-Mags, work best in my P22. Winchester Xpert, with its exposed lead and slightly longer bullet than Federal 550, caused my P22 to FTF almost every other round.

Rokman
June 3, 2008, 08:50 PM
My Ruger MKII target will shoot anything I feed it, but since I shoot a lot through it I usually just shoot one of the bulk packs a Wal Mart. The Remington golden bullets are by far my least favorite. I used to shoot the more expensive stuff, but I have gotten to be a cheapskate lately. Good luck.

MaterDei
June 3, 2008, 09:04 PM
Old thread. Seeing what people were paying for ammo 4 years ago makes me want to cry.

Bentonville
June 3, 2008, 09:09 PM
Federal

MCgunner
June 3, 2008, 09:17 PM
My Mk 2 does just as good with Federal bulk pack lightenings at 12.50 a box of 550 as it does with CCI mini mag at over 6 bucks a hundred now. CCI is getting stupid with the pricing. 4 years ago when this thread was fresh, it was about 3 bucks and change. Sad, ain't it. I used to get RWS target for that and it's only double what I used to give for Eley match! CCI ain't THAT good IMHO. I feed about everything that likes it half way Federal lightening. My Mk 2 ain't too good for it. :D It groups the stuff into a half inch at 25 yards (have a scope on the gun). It's a little dirty, but cleans up okay without field stripping every time, thank God. LOL At todays prices, one can't be that picky about ammo. LOL

Steve C
June 3, 2008, 10:32 PM
There is a lot of difference between the standard ammo you can buy for under $20/500 and a match grade ammo that runs $50+ for the same amount. Most of the time you don't need match grade and the misfires you get with the cheap bulk ammo generally are not a problem except when shooting a match and having to take an alibi.

I shoot a lot of the bulk stuff for fun and informal practice As mentioned, you will usually find your gun liking a particular brand better than another.

You get what you pay for, most companies make an inexpensive bargain brand that's adequate for plinking and more expensive ammo for more demanding shooting.

Wolf .22 match is good ammo and used to be very reasonable at around $1.50 a box until the word got out and now it sells for just under $5 a box of 50.

CCI is top notch ammo as is Winchester Super X.

10-Ring
June 3, 2008, 10:33 PM
As a collective my 22's prefer the 22lr's from Federal ;)

lions
June 4, 2008, 10:36 AM
Remington is not only junk, it is very dirty junk! A friend of mine gave me a box after he sold his 22 and I only shot ten rounds of the free remington ammo, dirtiest stuff I have ever seen. I like Federal, much cleaner than remington golden bullet and its copper plated unlike winchester super-x.

jimmyraythomason
June 4, 2008, 10:52 AM
While there are many good brands of ammo that will do fine in autoloaders,both pistol and rifle, I have found CCI minimags to work great for me. I don't even bother to try other brands now,I just stick with the CCIs.

camper
June 4, 2008, 06:48 PM
My MK I and II pistols have always eaten every brand fed to them. Right now Federal and Remington value packs from WalMart.

aka108
June 5, 2008, 01:14 AM
Best lower priced ammo I've run across is Eley Sport.

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