Friend found a new way to break a progressive press


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Shmackey
October 15, 2011, 06:08 PM
I was teaching a friend to load .45ACP today. He's seen me do it before, and he seemed to understand it all. I turned around for a moment, and when I turned back, he had managed to bend the primer-shuttle rod (this thing (http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/662855/hornady-lock-n-load-ap-progressive-press-primer-feeder-cam)) almost like a pretzel. It was bending in toward the press instead of away, and it had curves where there were no curves before. It's almost as if the primer shuttle got stuck and would move only vertically, and it was trying to "iron out" the rod.

Anyway, I've loaded thousands of rounds and gone through my share of replacements parts here and there, but it never even occurred to me that this part would break. Guess I'll give Hornady a call on Monday....

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dbarnhart
October 15, 2011, 06:35 PM
Oh My.

GP100man
October 15, 2011, 06:52 PM
Could`ve been from an incomplete stroke of the ram ?????

I`ve only handled a L-N-L at the GS but the vendor said to be sure & NOT short stroke it .

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
October 15, 2011, 09:49 PM
Wow, I had my press for about a decade and never bent that rod. I woulda been shocked too. I've heard that some folks could wreck a tank and there's evidence of that right there.

cfullgraf
October 15, 2011, 10:12 PM
I will bet your friend grabbed the rod during some movement like primer seating.

Maybe got bent on the up stroke if the primer shuttle got jammed.

I could make some organizationally insensitive comment about breaking an anvil, but I won't.

Hope the repair parts come quickly.

Sport45
October 16, 2011, 12:18 AM
Can you bend it back into shape?

Shmackey
October 16, 2011, 12:29 AM
Chuck, I bet you're right about grabbing it.

I'm impressed. It's a steel rod.

Sport, I tried to bend it back into shape. I can bend it for sure, but not so it looks like a new one. :)

My biggest concern is that it doesn't seem to want to come straight out of the base of the press where it's mounted. If I have to take the whole press off my bench just to replace the rod, I'm gonna be ticked off....

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
October 16, 2011, 09:27 AM
I hate to tell you, but there's a nut under there you gotta take off......

Shmackey
October 16, 2011, 09:11 PM
I hate to tell you, but there's a nut under there you gotta take off......
Must ... kill ... friend ...

loadedround
October 16, 2011, 09:22 PM
Never happens to a Dillon 550 or 650.

Shmackey
October 16, 2011, 11:30 PM
I can't tell if you're being facetious. In the history of reloading, I don't think this one has ever happened. :)

That being said, Dave's observation made me revisit the idea of bending the rod back. I realized it doesn't need to be perfect all the way across; It just needs to stop at the right place up top so the shuttle hole is centered with the primer tube.

It took about 10 minutes with pliers (which makes me wonder again how my friend managed to bend it ...), and I'm back in business. :)

cfullgraf
October 17, 2011, 09:30 AM
...and I'm back in business. :)

Good deal!

A bit of topic but a number of years ago my daughter went to farrier school. The school was replacing their anvils so I bought one on a lark.

It is one of those tools that you cannot justify before you get it, but cannot live without after you get it. I use it all the time.

It is handy to have something around to pound on for shaping and reshaping stuff.

Waldog
October 17, 2011, 02:55 PM
Never happens to a Dillon 550 or 650.

Boy, this is useful information!!:rolleyes:

Fishslayer
October 18, 2011, 02:37 AM
Never happens to a Dillon 550 or 650.


Nor on a Classic Turret, koolade drinker! :D

rsrocket1
October 18, 2011, 01:04 PM
It took about 10 minutes with pliers, and I'm back in business. :)

You're right:
^^ This would never happen with a Dillon 550 or 650

:neener:

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
October 18, 2011, 07:31 PM
Yep, you'd have to call Dillon and wait for several days while they mailed you some replacement parts.

dbarnhart
October 18, 2011, 08:53 PM
If we ever have an in-person meetup, I'm gonna get our name tags printed on appropriately-colored Koolaid packages ;-)

loadedround
October 18, 2011, 10:04 PM
Hey FloweryDave: Please make that FREE Dillon replacement parts! :)

chrt396
October 19, 2011, 01:48 AM
HHmmm.. I called Dillon and they told me to bend the primer rod to get more consistent primer feed. Darned if it didn't work! Flawless since I bent it a tad. It sure is a strong piece of metal! I like my Dillon. I'm sure all of the presses have their issues and little quirks...but in the end..they are all good.

Shmackey
October 19, 2011, 11:23 AM
For the rscore: Hornady shipped me a new primer cam rod for free even though (1) I didn't even need it anymore and (2) whatever my friend did certainly wasn't Hornady's fault.

Where's my red Kool-Aid? I'm thirsty!

amlevin
October 19, 2011, 12:25 PM
I believe there might be a message in the fact that Midway lists the replacement part for sale. And the fact they have it in stock also leads me to believe that this isn't the "First" time this has ever happened.

CHALK22
October 19, 2011, 11:36 PM
+1 for hornady CS! I called them after I broke one of the advancing pawls, and I TOLD her I pushed against a half decapped primer, and broke it. She says "we'll just call that a warranty issure, how many replacements do you need" and their outgoing phone messages are awesome.

dbltaps
October 26, 2011, 10:42 AM
Congrats for fixing the problem!

I was fortunate to have a friend lend me his LNL for about 2 years before I had to give it back, and when I first installed it on my bench, the primer feed would not work reliably. It turned out the primer cam rod was bent (my friend didn't have an explanation... ;) ). I attempted to bend it back to a semblance of the original shape, but couldn't get it to feed primers with any reliability.

One call to Hornady and a free replacement was on it's way, even though I explained that I wasn't the owner of the press! I am so impressed with Hornady's products and customer service, when I buy my own press, it will, without question, be a LNL! Hopefully my wife will let me buy two so that I can dedicate one to .223, and one to .45 acp!

Sport45
October 27, 2011, 12:29 AM
A bit of topic but a number of years ago my daughter went to farrier school. The school was replacing their anvils so I bought one on a lark.


I was ready for you to say a friend came over and broke it. :)

DCoke
October 27, 2011, 02:26 PM
It happened to me on my LnL....had a primer somehow lodge sideways in the primer slide and lock the slide inplace as I pulled down on the handle.... the handle is a power magnifier and it didn't take a lot of downward pull to bend that rod. I tried re-bending but no luck. Hornady was quick with a free replacement rod in a couple of days, no problem.

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