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LynnMassGuy
January 28, 2004, 09:04 PM
I'm curious. What do you folks carry in the summer? I'm talking 95 degree shorts and t-shirt weather. Is it different than what you carry in the winter? Where do you carry it? You're responses are appreciated!

BTW, I know the info is out there via the search function, but opinions and technologies change all the time.:D(This is an edit:rolleyes: )

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P95Carry
January 28, 2004, 09:16 PM
LMG ...... try a search on ''summer carry'' ... you should find some useful material.

Always a prob for me .. I sweat buckets. I loathe winter but .. carry is a piece of cake .. oh and no mowing!!:D

Right now ... I could have Fobus OWB 4 o'clock with full size auto ... same position N frame revo . or as this minute ... same position, high-ride pancake with SP-101 complete with CT grips. Even use sho rig at times too with full size.

Summer comes down to size as much as anything so .. probably what I have today .. the SP or some snub. A large t-shirt can pretty much cover that but much more risk of printing and care needed to avoid riding up.

I have a SmartCarry . and may well when needing deep conceal with minimal clothing, try that at times ...... and/or .. switch to something like a pocket based KT P-3AT ... it's a constant challenge when sweat is generous and clothing light!

I find the ''summer challenge'' has to be decided sometimes day to day ... if a thin over shirt possible then that's great .... but on a 95ยบ day with same humidity ... then it's never exactly easy ... but carry I do and will ... however hard to deal with.

usnavymasterchief
January 28, 2004, 09:25 PM
I live in Florida and my 365 day a year carry is a stainless Kahr MK40Elite in an Uncle Mikes IWB nylon holster. When the holster gets a little worn just chuck it and get another for $12.

mr_dove
January 28, 2004, 11:13 PM
I usually just make sure to wear longer clothing during summer. Think Hawaiian shirts. Light vests are good in summer too.

ACP230
January 28, 2004, 11:17 PM
The same as the rest of the year. A Smith M649 in a pocket holster.

Lennyjoe
January 29, 2004, 05:23 AM
Summer, whats that?

We skip summer here and go straight to bake.

Summer carry for me is a Glock 19 in a Comp-Tac Undercover. Its also the winter carry here too. Of course we dont have much of a winter either.

IWB 9 o'clock (lefty), button down shirt with a wife beater tee-shirt underneath. Gotta have a barrier between the skin and holster.

I prefer Kydex instead of leather during the hot days.

mini14jac
January 29, 2004, 07:23 AM
In most shorts, a small KelTec, either P32 or P3AT (front pocket).
In jeans or cargo shorts, Kahr PM9 front pocket.
If driving a lot, the PM9 rides in a Uncle Mike's Belt pak.
Looks like a pouch for a PDA or something. I keep my wallet in the main compartment, and no one has ever given a second look.
(Or a first look, for that matter.)

Over the last couple of months, I've been wearing untucked shirts and sweaters, with a Colt Defender in an IWB holster.
I'm hoping this will work under tshirts and maybe the Hawaiian shirt.

SapperLeader
January 29, 2004, 07:44 AM
I actually have a sightly easier time carrying concealed in the summer than I do in the winter. I wear a white t-shirt or wifebeater style tucked in, with another regular t-shirt over it. Than I wear a iwb rig with two spare magazines. No problems. During the winter, when Im wearing a coat Im ok, but My sweatshirts are not as long as my t-shirts, and why they do cover the belt line, I have to be more careful not to bend over or anything since I have less shirt material covering my belt.

azrael
January 29, 2004, 08:30 AM
For summer carry I use a P-32 or a Guardian .380 in a Oblivion rear pocket holster

Joe Demko
January 29, 2004, 09:06 AM
Summertime carry usually means the same guns as the rest of the year. Primary simply goes in a fanny pack. Not a tactical fanny pack, either. Just a good quality leather one in which I glued a nylon holster of the appropriate size. Pocket gun is still in my pocket. Obviously, with no pantlegs to cover it, the ankle gun gets left behind when I wear shorts.

dave3006
January 29, 2004, 09:42 AM
Summer carry, Glock 27 in Smartcarry. Winter carry, Glock 27 in Smartcarry.

I use a Galco PH286 pocket holster if I have to change clothes at the gym.

Brigrat
January 29, 2004, 03:10 PM
I will be carrying a PT111 in my front pocket this summer. So far 1000+ rounds, 100% reliable, great to carry, and fun/accurate to shoot.

azrael
January 29, 2004, 03:35 PM
pt111 in front pocket carry?? must be a big pocket...what kind of pants will you be using that have that large a front pocket??



I am just curious ;)

Series 70
January 29, 2004, 04:21 PM
Full-size 1911 in a Milt Sparks Watch-Six holster. I wear it over a tucked-in t-shirt and under an untucked print shirt - often a hawaiian pattern.

Granted, in MN, we don't get the weeks of searing heat as some places, but I've worn this way in 90+ degrees comfortably.

Soap
January 29, 2004, 06:27 PM
Suit or shorts, summer or winter, I carry a full size 1911 in a Sparks SSII on a Rosen belt.

dairycreek
January 30, 2004, 02:57 AM
such as shorts and a T-shirt then I always carry my S & W 442 with a Barami Hip-Grip. Makes a super combination. If I have a pocket in my shorts then I'll also carry an extra speed loader. If you are not familiar with the Hip-Grip I am adding its URL http://baramihipgrip.com/. Good shooting;)

Khornet
January 30, 2004, 08:28 AM
in the City of Sin???

Here in NH I carry the same all seasons: G22 or Para Tac Four, full-size guns, in a Tucker Texas Heritage tuckable IWB. I tend to wear blousy button-up shirts in the summer and the guns just disappear under them. That way I don't have to change my dress habits, which would be a giveaway. I'm never seen with an untucked shirt.

Evil_Ed
January 30, 2004, 11:00 AM
Living in Florida it is pretty hot through most of the year and the humidity can be a factor as well. When I am out and about in the heat I usually have the Kel-Tec P3AT in a pocket holster of my shorts. No muss, no fuss and it is invisible in a set of baggy shorts.

Something else I recomend for both your shorts and jeans if you carry a pocket gun... either sew in yourself or have someone else sew in pocket reinforcement in all your pockets. I recently ripped out a pocket on a pair of jeans I have and the contents of said poccket ended up all over the pavement beside my van while I was filling the gas tank. Thankfully it was my change pocket and not my gun pocket! Murphy's law dictated that I was wearing the one pair of pants I had without the heavy duty pockets! I recomend using "trigger cloth" (same color as the pocket material) which is a sport cloth you can find at most fabric stores and is very heavy duty, sew it to over the existing pocket so if any of your pocket interior is exposed it looks like the original material. It's pretty easy to run a sewing machine over the existing stitches.

Brigrat
January 30, 2004, 01:42 PM
The PT111 is close to the same size as the Glock 26. It fits about the same, as the dimensions are very close. I am large (6'2" 250lbs), so I wear larger pants than many, but my PT111 rides in my jeans, or my Royal Robbins 5.11's that I usually wear at work. I use my Pt111 as a BUG at work, and it is virtually unoticable. I think if more people gave the PT111 a shot, they would carry it often and learn to love it. Yes there were many problems at first, but they seem to be worked out, I fired 1000 consecutive rounds through mine without cleaning before I started carrying it, and it didn't hicup once (one round with a bad primer didn't fire in the PT111, Ruger P95, or S&W 5906). I have also been known to put My P95 in my front pocket with the right pants, it was tough to draw, but really not that noticable.

LynnMassGuy
January 30, 2004, 10:59 PM
They let you carry in the City of Sin???

Heh! Yup. Lynn actually has one of the more reasonable police chiefs.:)

Vern Humphrey
January 31, 2004, 12:07 PM
I carry a full-size M1911 in an IWB of my own design. I designed this holster for carry against the skin, in hot weather, under a T-shirt

You can find instructions on how to make this holster at http://paul.desertskyone.com/gunstuff.html

Scroll down the page about 2/3s of the way to find the link.

azrael
January 31, 2004, 12:15 PM
Vern,
that isnt a bad looking holster at all...you might want to change the snaps to "one-way" snaps but other than that it looks very servicable.

nice work

CZ-100
January 31, 2004, 12:23 PM
Kel-Tec P3AT in a pocket holster. :D

azrael
January 31, 2004, 12:24 PM
Pocket Carry!!! I lOVEEEEEE hearing that:D

Vern Humphrey
January 31, 2004, 12:47 PM
Thanks, Dave.

I allow any holster maker to make this holster for sale, and only ask that it keep my name attached to it.

Vic303
January 31, 2004, 01:49 PM
If it's summer in Texas it must be between Feb-Dec! SO if it'swarm enough for shorts, it's time for the SmartCarry. Pistol generally is Kimber Ultra CDP. If it is pants weather, generally it is whatever holster I can mooch off my husband for IWB/OWB, all of which are too long for the Ultra :banghead: but it's what I have access to most of the time.

tonerguy
January 31, 2004, 02:51 PM
This is fully tuckable, concealable with a dress shirt and slacks or even a tucked in golf shirt that is a little big. It's a Cover Up from Tucker Gunleather. This one is fully lined so it stays open for easy reholstering.

http://www.imgmag.com/images/tonerguy/Tucker/CovUPLR01sm.jpg

Summer concealed carry is not hard.

http://store.yahoo.com/rlcompanyusa/iwbholsters.html

Vern Humphrey
January 31, 2004, 03:09 PM
I'd like that a lot better if there was something to go between the butt of the gun and bare skin.

tonerguy
January 31, 2004, 03:19 PM
Quote: "I'd like that a lot better if there was something to go between the butt of the gun and bare skin."

If we did that there might be interference with a full firing grip. I don't believe you can find a professional holster with the design you describe.

I wear that rig every day without an undershirt. I have a similar set up for my LW Champion. I did have to put smooth Micarta grips on the Champion to keep my skin intact.

I appreciate the desire to protect the epidermis, however.

Here's a picture of the backside of the Cover Up:

http://www.imgmag.com/images/tonerguy/Tucker/CovUPLR02Sm.jpg

Rob

Vern Humphrey
January 31, 2004, 04:44 PM
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If we did that there might be interference with a full firing grip. I don't believe you can find a professional holster with the design you describe.
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I have been using such a holster for many years -- and have fired many thousands of rounds from a holster presentation.

Valkman
January 31, 2004, 05:06 PM
I don't think summer carry is difficult either, but if it's only 95 degrees than it must be May! :D

I wear a tank top with shorts and a IWB rig. Then I wear a unbuttoned flowery shirt over it. I wear a Gary Brommeland belt, mag/flash pouch and then either his Max Con V holster or a Spark's VM2.

azrael
January 31, 2004, 05:26 PM
all ya got to do is to cut the leather to cover the slide...it doesnt block a full firing grip...look at verns pic and that will show you what I am talking about..

azrael
January 31, 2004, 05:31 PM
Vern,
Also try using "Chicago Screws"...I use them instead of snaps on my IWB's...a pic of what I am referring to is on my website under the "Abyss" link under iwb's

hope this helps..

Vern Humphrey
January 31, 2004, 05:57 PM
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Also try using "Chicago Screws"...I use them instead of snaps on my IWB's...a pic of what I am referring to is on my website under the "Abyss" link under iwb's
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I just laid in a supply of chicago screws, and plan to experiment with "tuckable" straps running from the toes of the holster up, and well as more removeable straps on the holster throat.

azrael
January 31, 2004, 06:10 PM
yea a "tuckable" is next on my list for my product line...I really want to use a Kydex hook but I havent found any for sale

Vern Humphrey
January 31, 2004, 06:43 PM
I'm inclined to stick with leather, just for traditional reasons. Also, of course, I can make leather straps for the tuckable easily, and not have to look for clips.

For producing more than an occasional holster, of course, it would be different.

tonerguy
January 31, 2004, 07:33 PM
Please,

Make your holster's your way. Good luck to you both. I'm sure you have no problem drawing from your holster.

agtman
January 31, 2004, 07:56 PM
"Summer carry."


A G29 riding in a SideArmor IWB, loaded with 10+1 of Double Tap's 165gn 10mm ammo.

Light-weight + concealability + sufficient capacity + high-performance stopping power. :cool:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-12/73942/agtman_g29.jpg

Sarge55
February 1, 2004, 08:22 AM
An S&W J Frame (442 or 642) in a Kramer Pocket Holster is my usual summer fare. May be adding a P3AT.

orangeninja
February 1, 2004, 08:35 AM
Don Hume IWB or the JIT. I wear Dickies Work Shirts unbottoned in true "gangland" style form. Which lucky for me, is the style for people my age. By the way....

nothing screams GUN like a vest or a fanny pack. Don't wear them unless you WANT people to know you're packing. Oh sure, grandma at the Grocer may not know, but those aspiring hoods watching you walk to your car know whats up. It kind of blows the element of surprise.

azrael
February 1, 2004, 09:16 AM
really want a pocket thumper?? get yourself a .32 Naa

P3AT is a nice gun you will be happy with your purchase.

RikWriter
February 1, 2004, 09:36 AM
I either go with a fanny pack or else an IWB strongside holster with a tucked-in tank top under it and an untucked polo shirt over it.

Lone_Gunman
February 1, 2004, 10:25 AM
With a good holster and quality belt, there is no reason why you cant conceal twin Desert Eagles in 100 degree weather while wearing nothing but a Speedo and a tank top.

Brigrat
February 1, 2004, 12:47 PM
Boy does that paint a picture!!!

:what:

jamz
February 2, 2004, 01:31 PM
With a good holster and quality belt, there is no reason why you cant conceal twin Desert Eagles in 100 degree weather while wearing nothing but a Speedo and a tank top.



Hehe,

"Hey check her out. Nice guns!" :D

SapperLeader
February 4, 2004, 09:23 AM
Im not really understanding why people have more trouble concealing during the summer. I stated earlier my summer time rig, and while it is a little hotter wearing the tank top t-shirt under a regular shirt, doing so keeps my sidearm from rubbing my side wrong. I wear my pistol at the 3:00 position, to keep the butt from pushing at the cover garment. I then slip my magazine carriers on the belt, fill up my pockets with my regular stuff, and move on and about with my day. If you have a good holster, and a good belt, it shouldnt matter what the weather is. Maybe if some people mentioned why thier having trouble carrying during the summer, Ill understand. Not trying to be dense here, just not getting what the issue is. thanks

P95Carry
February 4, 2004, 11:41 AM
Sapper ... well, in my case .... it all hinges around my SWEAT problem! I had ''Mono'' back in late 60's and now I am approaching my third geriatric stripe .... it gets worse - not better. Buckets . I mean buckets!!

Thus .. the thought of two layers .. under and outer .... no dice .. just can't manage. So ... I have the lightest and skimpiest stuff I can .... shorts and t-shirt .. that's the limit ... if I get too hot I feel ill .... simple as that .. body thermostat is all screwed up.

Thus .. I just have to conceal as best i can .. now perhaps a tad easier since aquiring P3AT ... but otherwise ... snub in pancake hi-ride at 3.30 or so ,... and real lose t-short over top ..... followed by care and awareness of keeping covered.

I am well aware tho .. if I did not have this over-heating prob .... it'd be a breeze.

azrael
February 4, 2004, 11:46 AM
P95,
might I suggest Kydex for your "problem"(cant believe I suggested kydex!:barf: if you are wanting to use an IWB.

I tend to sweat a little bit myself..lol...thats why I usually carry in my pocket during the summer and spring...Beltslide for the winter under a light coat...with one in my rear pocket as well (p-32 or P3AT)

Vern Humphrey
February 4, 2004, 12:06 PM
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it all hinges around my SWEAT problem
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That's why I designed my holster to have a large flap of leather between skin and gun butt -- it protects the gun from sweat. I use Sno-Seal to sweat-proof the leather.

There are several beneficial side effects of this large flap. For one thing, it distributes the pressure, so you don't have sharp angles digging into you. It also provides a place to mount the "button" or leather cam which keeps the safety positively engaged.

P95Carry
February 4, 2004, 12:41 PM
Haha .. yeah Kydex. Well I do use a Fobus for P series, Kydex for Bersa . plenty of choices but ... the one thing I cannot handle is IWB ... I don't have too much padding and it is not comfortable ... never has and I doubt ever will be so .. always OWB for me. Even there ... sweat still affects decision . I mean ... you gotta SEE me sweat to know just what I mean!!:p

It's less a ''gun protection'' thing for me, than need for adequate comfort. ...... what works in the end becomes a very individual thing IMO ....

Stevie-Ray
February 4, 2004, 09:44 PM
P32 in a Uncle Mike's pocket holster.

DonGlock26
February 5, 2004, 11:32 PM
G-26 in a Galco fanny pack or P-32 in UM pocket holster w/ sun screen.

SapperLeader
February 6, 2004, 11:14 AM
P95Carry : I can understand what you mean by the overheating. I have a real high body tempeture normaly(upper 99's) and during the summer I have my share of sweating issues. I just find having that thin white shirt soaking up the sweat alleviates the problem some what. YMMV, and as long as your armed, its just a matter of preferance. I also inhale multiple quarts of water every day :).
Ill see how things go this summer, but last summer I managed to pull it off. Of course last summer, I was wearing bdu's, a wool hat, and body armor at work, so wearing two t-shirts off duty was nothing in comparision :). I also use Kydex holsters, and a polymer gun, so the sweat doesnt effect my carry piece as much. I actually find my pocket 642 to be a little less comfortable in the summer, due to the weight of the gun sticking to my leg.

Model520Fan
February 6, 2004, 02:22 PM
Usually a "photographer's vest," either to cover what's on my belt, or to provide a pocket for a Model 37, or both. Sometimes a "fanny pack." Sometimes a Model 37 or a 342PD in a pants pocket with a couple of Comp I speedloaders to change the outline to square. Model 37 in Renegade ankle holster if I'm not wearing shorts.

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