2400 load for 200gr xpb 45 colt


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suzukisam
October 17, 2011, 04:54 PM
I'm trying to find load data for my 45 colt ruger.. I want to load a 200gr barnes xpb with 2400... they claim their 200gr is is a 260 bullet but I don't see why it matters

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rcmodel
October 17, 2011, 05:31 PM
260 bullet?

Could it be a .460 S&W bullet?

It matters because you can't get even close to the 2,200 - 2,400 FPS out of a +P .45 Colt load.
And that is what the Barnes bullet is designed to expand at.

You will be paying a dollar a pop for what is basically FMJ bullet performance at +P .45 Colt velocity.

rc

suzukisam
October 17, 2011, 05:50 PM
well I was just looking at weight, and I figured a fast 200gr out of mt 7.5" BH would be a good whitetail load... well I was in a hurry and didn't even notice the 460sw on the package.. when I went to look up data I couldn't find any...

your right rc barnes tailors their bullets to the specific cartridge not caliber.... well this sucks! I have no use for these!:cuss:

rcmodel
October 17, 2011, 05:52 PM
Can't beat good old Hornady XTP's for your use.

Just don't order the Magnum ones.

rc

suzukisam
October 17, 2011, 06:08 PM
well I've been loading a 250gr xtp with 20.0 gr 2400, it's a great load but I ran out of xtps and thought I'd try some barnes since I love the barnes bullets in my rifles... hmmm:confused:

Mr.Revolverguy
October 17, 2011, 06:19 PM
RC,

What is wrong with the Magnum XTP's or did you just mean don't order them for this purpose?

rcmodel
October 17, 2011, 07:41 PM
Nothing is wrong with them, if you are shooting a .454 Casual or .460 S&W.

IMO: They are just built a little too sturdy for good deer performance at .45 Colt velocity.

rc

Mr.Revolverguy
October 17, 2011, 08:21 PM
Ah ok thank you for the clarification that's what I thought you meant as I do load them in 460 but not in 45colt. And I do agree with you I have shot and recovered a 45XTP from a tree at 460 velocity and though only one side opened up it held together very well.

suzukisam
October 17, 2011, 10:38 PM
okay so I decided on the 225 45 colt +p barnes xpb... so anyone have any load data for this bullet with 2400?

CraigC
October 18, 2011, 01:20 PM
Not much reason to use anything other than a good 250-260gr cast bullet in the .45Colt. Kills deer stone dead and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Furthermore, you can afford to practice with your hunting load.

tx_pistolero
October 18, 2011, 05:02 PM
You should consider 200gr SWC. Good blend of weight and velocity potential.

suzukisam
October 18, 2011, 05:31 PM
I have an excellent mo bullet load, and a nice xtp load. I'm shooting better with that gun at 25yds than any other handgun I've owned. and I don't doubt the lethality of any of them. but I only shoot a couple rounds of handgun ammo if any during the hunting season and I would really like to try these xtps out and see their performance.. so the price is no big deal

ghitch75
October 19, 2011, 10:01 AM
i run 24gr of 296 with MB 250gr "pinbuster's" @ 1400FPS from a 7 1/2" blackhawk.....a lot cheaper than XTP'S and will drop a whitetail in there tracks at 75y....no leadin' or signs of over pressure..."use at your own risk"

suzukisam
October 19, 2011, 11:44 AM
I do like those pin busters.. very accurate.. I haven't tried pushing them fast.. I'm at about 18gr of 2400

suzukisam
October 19, 2011, 06:16 PM
okay so i called barnes today, and they were very helpful.. however they have three powders listed for the on 45lc bullet they sell.. sooooo the guy found some data that he wasn't sure the origin of and said for 2400 20.00 gr, he didn't know if it was a max or minimum.. I know that 21.0 gr of 2400 is typical in a ruger load behind a 250 gr bullet, so i'm guessing that 20.0 is the max load for the 225 barnes. I'll start a little shy of that and see how it goes

orionengnr
October 19, 2011, 10:36 PM
I know that 21.0 gr of 2400 is typical in a ruger load behind a 250 gr bullet, so i'm guessing that 20.0 is the max load for the 225 barnesAs counter-intuitive as it might seem, a lighter bullet generally requires a heavier powder charge.

When you stop to think about it, it actually makes sense.

suzukisam
October 19, 2011, 11:00 PM
yes this may be true, but if you know about many of the new copper bullets, copper being considerably lighter than lead a barnes bullet will act like a bullet 30% heavier therefore a 225gr xpb is closer in size to a standard 250, and the longer bearing surface and reduced case capacity tends to require a lighter charge to behave the same as another bullet of the same weight...

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