Petition to remove Suppressors off of NFA


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knute
October 18, 2011, 12:09 AM
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/lead-way-removing-silencers-national-firearms-act/6hm2ByPv :D

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Eric F
October 18, 2011, 05:28 AM
looks like this wont happen.......

dragon813gt
October 18, 2011, 07:14 AM
Phone posted from my pocket. Love when that happens.


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Geckgo
October 18, 2011, 07:22 AM
probably won't pass, but I'm going to sign this one anyways

Mike1234567
October 18, 2011, 11:09 AM
Just signed... #1111 :)

JoeMal
October 18, 2011, 11:14 AM
Not only do I have to make an account with the White House, they will then put my name and city/state on their website for all to see. Wonder why they haven't reached the 5,000 mark yet :rolleyes:

Dustin0
October 18, 2011, 03:39 PM
1151

CoRoMo
October 18, 2011, 05:16 PM
Spitting in the wind... at least for the next year or so.

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
October 20, 2011, 07:29 AM
I signed. As far as giving them my email? First message after the registration one I'll mark as junk... Go figure.

Rail Driver
October 20, 2011, 11:07 AM
looks like this wont happen.......

Not only do I have to make an account with the White House, they will then put my name and city/state on their website for all to see. Wonder why they haven't reached the 5,000 mark yet

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Spitting in the wind... at least for the next year or so.

I had a whole big reply typed out, but it's about as useful as the replies I quoted here.

I signed.

Dustin0
October 20, 2011, 12:24 PM
Nice hat I have one just like it. j/k

SN13
October 20, 2011, 01:15 PM
There are similar petitions for SBR/SBS and FA.

dogtown tom
October 20, 2011, 01:47 PM
Signing a petition at whitehouse.gov is as effective as writing "we want cheap gas" on the restroom wall at a gas station.

The ONLY ways to remove silencers/supressors/FA/SBS/SBR from the National Firearms Act is by congressional legislation.

That change isn't going to come from the whitehouse..........EVER.

hso
October 20, 2011, 02:15 PM
How does signing a petition at the Whitehouse based website have any effect on changing legislation? The Executive branch has no authority to change legislation. Only Congress can.

Since this site has popped up we've seen a huge jump in folks starting some petition to the Executive branch that can only be addressed by the Legislative branch. Is peoples' understanding of how government works that off target???

Rail Driver
October 20, 2011, 02:15 PM
Signing a petition at whitehouse.gov is as effective as writing "we want cheap gas" on the restroom wall at a gas station.

The ONLY ways to remove silencers/supressors/FA/SBS/SBR from the National Firearms Act is by congressional legislation.

That change isn't going to come from the whitehouse..........EVER.
So you recommend staying silent instead? You know, since you feel like you're shouting into the wind, or at a brick wall?

I reiterate... The problem here is that there is no unification, no 'collective voice'. There are a handful of people clamoring for our rights and everyone else is arguing about "why bother, it doesn't do any good"

Maybe I'm an idealist, but if everyone that doesn't bother because it won't help anyway got off their high horse and spoke up too, our voice would be very loud indeed. Perhaps loud enough to be heard and have something done about it.

How does signing a petition at the Whitehouse based website have any effect on changing legislation? The Executive branch has no authority to change legislation. Only Congress can.

Since this site has popped up we've seen a huge jump in folks starting some petition to the Executive branch that can only be addressed by the Legislative branch. Is peoples' understanding of how government works that off target???

I think it's akin to people wanting their opinions known to those in charge... The issue here isn't whether the executive branch can do anything to enact the specific changes petitions are asking for, the issue here is making sure the executive branch knows what the people want when it comes time to vote on this stuff. I believe that even if it doesn't bring about a drastic change as a direct result of the petition, that it still HELPS. It draws more attention to our issues.

I thought this was an activism forum, not a "it's pointless why bother" thread repository.

Perhaps you know of a place where we would be better served to post these types of petitions and activism requests?

Instead of shooting down the efforts we're making by rote, you should at least provide alternate options or something that you feel could help more. New ideas are needed much more than criticism.

dogtown tom
October 20, 2011, 10:13 PM
Rail Driver .....So you recommend staying silent instead? You know, since you feel like you're shouting into the wind, or at a brick wall?
Do you really want change? Then give to the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation. They'll do more with a dollar than a million votes or signatures in an online popularity contest will ever do.

If you think "petitions" at whitehouse.gov or online polls carry ANY VALUE WHATSOEVER.........well knock yourself out;). Vote early, vote often.

Rail Driver
October 20, 2011, 10:47 PM
If you'd like to assume that online petitions are the only method I use to effect change then you're sorely mistaken, although you can't be expected to know that.

I appreciate your concern, however you need not worry. I vote, I am an NRA life member, and I am in regular correspondence with my representatives. I appreciate your ideas.

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