Reloading Press Shellplate LED light System


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1in9twist
October 19, 2011, 01:18 AM
Thank you for checking out this thread. As a safety habit, I always look down inside my cases before setting a bullet to double check the powder level. It isn’t easy to get light directly inside the press cage with-out having some hot, glaring gooseneck light in the way. In looking at ways to solve this problem, I have come up with this item and design. It features a 110 to 12v adaptor wired to a 6 LED flexible strip which has a piece of 3M Redline doublestick tape on it. I did not wire in a switch as I figured it would be plugged into a multi-outlet strip. The LED’S put out a ton of light and zero heat. They are also sealed inside a clear silicone casing. The LED strip mounts to the inside beam of just about any press flooding the shellplate with bright white light.

So the question is, do you think you would purchase something such as this and at what price point would it be worth it? It is not a cheap item to produce, but really does the job. I did not want anything with batteries, as the LEDS get dimmer as they the batteries discharge and are expensive. The LED lights also have a expected lifespan of over 50,000 hours.

Prices on my website are always “Shipped” prices and if purchased with another item, it would be discounted and shipped free with that other item.
www.inlinefabrication.com
Your thoughts\suggestions are hereby requested. :popcorn:
Thank you
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http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3490.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3491.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3493.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3494.jpg


In these pictures below, there were NO other lights on and no camera flash.
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3497.jpg
Left Side
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3506.jpg
Right side
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3508.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3509.jpg

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Walkalong
October 19, 2011, 11:42 AM
Looks like it does a very good job.

Shmackey
October 19, 2011, 01:15 PM
Nice. I currently use a clip-on reading light with an LED. Your solution doesn't get in the way like mine does.

That being said, I wouldn't buy one with AC power. There's enough going on around my press without adding new wires. I use low-discharge NiMH rechargeable batteries for everything now (Eneloops), so battery cost is not an issue. (As an aside, with modern low-discharge NiMH batteries, there's just no reason to use alkalines for anything anymore.)

If it ran on a couple of AAA or AA batteries in a small pack that could sit just on the bench just to the right of the press, I would probably pay $20 for one.

chrt396
October 19, 2011, 01:34 PM
Ya know...you bring up a subject that I've been pondering for a while. I've been looking for a strong light that doesn't throw off much heat that will illuminate my press. I have a bright flourescent light above..but extra light could definately be a plus. How bout those LED lights that are used for motorcycles? I had them on my RoadKing..in white..and those suckers are BRIGHT!!! Just need to wire them to an adapter..which should be easy to find at a radio shack or electronic supply house. They have their own adhesive...seems like a plan that would work VERY nicely without a bunch of clutter!

Lets see...stick the LED on the part of the press that is unaffected by caliber changes, primer changes and operation of the press. Attached the wire down the supporting spine of the press through a pre-drilled hole on the table top. Run the wire under the table to a switch attached to the back of the bench..and then to a wall socket. Sounds like a project to get started on!

Shmackey...do you think that those low voltage LED lights could cause a spark enough to ignite powder? That would obviously be an issue if it could.

I do have a barbeque clip on LED light that I attach to my grill that is brightenough...just big and cumbersome.

floydster
October 19, 2011, 01:35 PM
I wouldn't want an AC powered unit either, I have a clamp on LED light from the dollar store that works great---I bought 6 of them and when the button batterys wear out, I can power these with 3 AAA batterys and they last forever:)

chrt396
October 19, 2011, 02:52 PM
You have some pretty cool stuff on your web site!! I looked for the LED..but I couldn't find it. How much is the set up going to be?

Woody3
October 19, 2011, 06:07 PM
I too am interested in price.


Keep your head low and your powder dry.

capreppy
October 19, 2011, 06:32 PM
I use a light that I bought for my nook. Works really well for rifle and pistol.

Yours looks like it would work really well for pistol. How well does it work for rifle? I may be in the market since my wife took MY nook and MY light. I have to "borrow" the light when I load.

kk0g
October 19, 2011, 06:55 PM
It's not AC powered, it's 12V DC.

Rembrandt
October 19, 2011, 06:56 PM
Made one using an LED flashlight....sure helps illuminate inside the cases.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/reload%20room/047331c1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/reload%20room/1ae6d801.jpg

Woody3
October 19, 2011, 07:35 PM
Not to step on toes but this thread isn't about what "you" have made or done it's about 1in9twist and his invention. He was simply trying to get a feel for anyone's desire for one.

Respectfully,
Woody


Keep your head low and your powder dry.

Walkalong
October 19, 2011, 07:45 PM
I think it is an excellent idea. Like the OP has asked, it is a matter of what people would be willing to pay vs what he can sell them for. Definitely a nice way to light up the inside of the case.

nojoke
October 19, 2011, 09:26 PM
Price pending, I'll take the light and an ergo handle.

I don't want to order the handle until you have the light....pending price.

We're all on a tight budget, so do it for cost plus your time/profit.

What does it cost you to produce?

Honestly, this is sort of a weird way of going about things....:uhoh:


Bottom line, I really really like the light. Hope that wire doesn't get in the way of things tho....any mounting parts going to come with it? Me and wires don't get along well, I seem to get wound up in every wire I get close to. :)

I would prefer an on/off switch.

Walkalong
October 19, 2011, 09:29 PM
Not really. If he gets an idea of what people think it is worth, then he knows if it is worth investing some money in buying parts to produce it, or not.

Hondo 60
October 19, 2011, 09:49 PM
Looks very nice.
I've seen some others & they look - well - homemade.

m33p0n3
October 19, 2011, 11:23 PM
Wow, I've got a few of those LED strips leftover from an install on a friends car, now I know a good use for them.

I would prefer to have an on/off switch accessible at the press. If someone were to use a power strip, simply leaving the switch on would give the same result.

A battery operated one would probably be a lot better for me, but I understand that it would cause a lot of problems with the design. Adding a circuit to step up to 12V from say 3V off of 2 AA batteries just creates added complication/cost.

As far as price, with a whole system ready to go, (with a switch and battery pack or wall wart) I would expect to pay around $20. Even though it's something I could probably throw together myself, I would pay for something a little more polished than I could throw together from spare parts I have laying around.

1in9twist
October 19, 2011, 11:43 PM
Hi Guys. To be clear, as mentioned above, this thread was to determine if it would be worth my time to source the materials required to produce this light and bring it to market. OR, if people were like :barf: "that's the dumbest thing I have ever seen!"

I always enjoy listening to experienced people's opinions and feedback prior to manufacturing a product. As far as I am concerned, it's the way it should be.

Based on the great feedback from this and other forums, I will be adding it to my line up. :) It is a versatile (Could mount on just about any press), simple, functional item and will be at a reasonable price point. Prolly $25. (Will ship free with an item from the site)

The hardest thing nowadays is finding reasonable shipping costs out to the customer. :fire:

nojoke
October 19, 2011, 11:48 PM
Good price, I'd go for that...switch included?

1in9twist
October 20, 2011, 12:05 AM
At this point I am not planning on wiring in a switch, cuz.....where would it go? I could make a bracket for an automotive toggle type switch, but then the end user would have to screw it to his\her bench or attach it to the press somehow :barf: Being that it could go onto just about any type of press, I would never know what type of bracket to ship with it.

I could install the switch in a box, but then there's something else cluttering up the area.

If someone wanted a switch as a custom option, no worries, because we would figure out what works best together.

I was figuring people would use their multi outlet strip that's prolly already in the vicinity of the press anyway.

kelbro
October 20, 2011, 12:05 AM
Nice setup. You might try to source a less noisy AC adapter. Those can wreak havoc on a nearby digital scale.

Does it really need to be 700mA? Does it have to be 12VDC? If it would run on 5VDC, you could add a female mini-usb input and people could use one of their extra mobile phone chargers that they have laying around.

Would you consider selling it without the AC adapter? I have a bunch of those.

1in9twist
October 20, 2011, 12:32 AM
Hmm.....I have 3 different digital scales and couldn't get any interference. Tried multiple times with known weights.

I will get the best lumen's and therefor performance out of 12vdc so I am not looking to scrimp.

I don't mind helping out, once I receive my order, I will pm ya.

NuJudge
October 20, 2011, 06:28 AM
I'd be interested in one. What I have used, to date, is a hat brim light on a baseball cap.

I have made several attempts at a stationary directional light, but on progressive presses I really need to watch the priming operation, the powder drop and the powder level in the case. I guess I need an area light such as you are working with.

tly999
October 20, 2011, 11:30 AM
I have tried using a battery powered LED light with only 1 LED, but would like a brighter light. I am interested in your light, but quite frankly, the wire routing around the moving press scares me. I would keep wondering what happens if I tangle the wire in the press and pull the wire out of the LED.

I know there are lights made for explosive environments (such as underground coal mines). If a multiple LED using such a light were offered, I would buy it.

Terry

rsrocket1
October 20, 2011, 11:43 AM
If you want a switch, couldn't you put an inline switch in the middle of the cord? I know it's not efficient since the 120VAC is already converted to 12VDC, but it is so little lost energy that it shouldn't matter.

1 LED lamps and flashlights are incredibly bright nowadays. I am using this lamp (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20169658/) to shine a light into the center hole of my LnL and it is real bright, does not heat up at all and has an inline switch.

However, I do like the idea of an LED strip with multiple LED's for checking powder. If you can flex the strip, you can put the last LED so you can see directly into tall cases.

nojoke
October 20, 2011, 01:56 PM
Actually, I'd like a plug w/ 2 lights.
One to the press and a second light in my case loader.
I have a mirror set up above the loader, but its dark up there the way I have it. A little light would be great!

1in9twist
October 20, 2011, 02:57 PM
I am interested in your light, but quite frankly, the wire routing around the moving press scares me. I would keep wondering what happens if I tangle the wire in the press and pull the wire out of the LED.

Well, as with anything, you must take some care to ensure longevity of the item you are working with. In this case I would route the wire so that it cannot come into contact with the shellplate. That is really the only moving item in that area. In my photo above, if I was leaving it there fulltime, I would simply use a ziptie or adhesive backed tiepoint to secure the wire to the press post to keep it from moving around.
The rest of the wire runs under the finished bullet tray, thru the area where the casefeeder attaches, then travels across the bench to the plug in. Keep in mind the LED strip is only 7/16 wide, so if you wanted to get tricky, you could bore a hole in the bench and feed it thru from underneath. (No wire across the bench that way.)

nojoke
October 20, 2011, 05:23 PM
I would have no problem drilling a small wire sized hole into the body of the press to route the wire out of the way, if tht would help increase reliablity.

Magoo
October 20, 2011, 05:44 PM
I like it, and I want one.

Like others, I'd like to have a switch on it. Also like others, I'd like to route the wire through and under my bench to reduce clutter. I've got an idea for two birds with one stone that hopefully wouldn't add too much to the cost. You could put a plug just below the light strip. It would be easier to route the wire with just the small plug on the end, and it would serve as a serviceable, though not perfect, on/off switch.

Something like this is what came to mind: http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/103285-conn-dc-power-plug-1-4x4-3x6-5mm-pp-016.html

This is a modification I wouldn't at all mind doing myself, but if you could incoporate something along those lines without significantly raising the price I'd just assume buy it already done.

EddieNFL
October 20, 2011, 07:21 PM
I'll take one.

1in9twist
October 20, 2011, 08:23 PM
Thank you guys for the input! I have decided to incorporate a switch into the light system. I have parts inbound. Stay tuned.

dbarnhart
October 22, 2011, 10:17 AM
I'd buy one in a heartbeat for $50 or so. MY reloading bench is in the garage and the lighting is pretty dim.

BeltFedEd
October 22, 2011, 03:29 PM
I like it!

1in9twist
October 23, 2011, 12:33 AM
BeltFedEd
I like it!

Hey, aren't you supposed to be resizing fiddy brass? :neener:

BeltFedEd
October 23, 2011, 12:31 PM
Who? what? me?...http://serve.mysmiley.net/innocent/innocent0009.gif

germ
October 23, 2011, 12:35 PM
25 bucks and switched sounds good to me. I'd like one and a roller handle.

1in9twist
October 26, 2011, 01:43 AM
Page is up. Thank you all for your thoughts and feedback!

http://inlinefabrication.com/LED_LIGHTING_SYSTEMS.html

kelbro
October 26, 2011, 08:46 AM
Cool. Order was placed this morning. I requested that you not install the double-sided tape to facilitate swapping the light strip from one press to another.

Thanks for your efforts!

dap22
October 26, 2011, 09:23 AM
1in9.........couldn't get your website to come up.

1in9twist
October 26, 2011, 10:37 AM
Dap22. It is working for me, I jumped on via my shop computer and my phone. Maybe it was a glitch? Hit me up if you have any further problems.

Hangingrock
October 29, 2011, 03:53 PM
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc277/lowflash/IMG_3999.jpg
Light on cartridge case
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc277/lowflash/IMG_4001.jpg
Mounting of light strip and power cable routing
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc277/lowflash/IMG_4003.jpg
Inlet power from power strip

The LED illumination strip is mounted on a Dillon 550 progressive. The mounting instructions were straight and to the point. The aluminum mounting strip I did bend to conform to the inside radius of the Dillon 550 frame thus allowing one LED to have a downward light projection. For my application the illumination strip is only going to be mounted on one unit. I have a power strip on the bench to provide the inlet power.

natgas
October 29, 2011, 04:01 PM
Received mine this morning; installed on both my 650's---great light and should really help.

Thanks

kelbro
October 29, 2011, 05:14 PM
Hope mine gets here today. I have a lot of 223 to load up and it's hard to see down those tiny little necks on the Dillon.

nojoke
October 30, 2011, 12:01 AM
Where's mine? :neener:
Of course, mine is special order since I'll have 2 lights.
One for the press and one for the case feeder.

1SOW
October 30, 2011, 12:54 AM
I feel the same way about batteries, but did somethin a little different.

I took a bright white led, and an old computer power supply and made what you show. Computer power supplies have 5 volt +/- outputs on two wires. I was worried that 5 volts might everdrive the light, so I put a small adjustable potentiomer in line with the light to be able to 'dim' it a little. Turned out I didn't need the pot. The light works well with the full 5 volts.
The light fastened easily with a hot melt glue gun. Total cost was zero, as I a had an led light.

dap22
October 30, 2011, 08:44 PM
1in9...........website's working fine for me now.

1in9twist
October 31, 2011, 12:51 PM
Where's mine?
Of course, mine is special order since I'll have 2 lights.
One for the press and one for the case feeder.

Yea, you're special allright...............:neener:

When you get your 2 light set up installed, take a pic or 2. I would like to see how it performs in that case feeder.

1in9twist
October 31, 2011, 01:15 PM
Nice pictures Hangingrock. Those adhesive backed tie points are perfect to route the wire with.

kelbro
October 31, 2011, 08:33 PM
Got mine today. Nice!

nojoke
November 1, 2011, 04:24 PM
Yea, you're special allright...............:neener:

When you get your 2 light set up installed, take a pic or 2. I would like to see how it performs in that case feeder.
Works well!

http://members.cox.net/ned946/dillon%20powder%20ck/no%20light%20case%20feeder.jpg
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http://members.cox.net/ned946/dillon%20powder%20ck/LED.jpg
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http://members.cox.net/ned946/dillon%20powder%20ck/LED%20LNL.jpg

1in9twist
November 2, 2011, 12:36 PM
Nice! I dig the mirror idea!

1in9twist
November 17, 2011, 08:56 PM
A thinner version of the LED system is now available for the Dillon 550. :cool:

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3621-1.jpg

kelbro
November 17, 2011, 10:07 PM
Neat idea. I mounted mine between stations 3 and 4. Works very well. Good job on this one!

orionengnr
November 20, 2011, 11:14 PM
American ingenuity strikes again. I had to bookmark it. Will be ordering soon, maybe more than one.
I like your ergo roller handles as well.

1in9twist
December 9, 2011, 03:07 PM
Thank you for the compliments & feedback! I received a nice online review.

http://www.shootandreload.com/2011/11/12/reloading-press-led-lighting-system-by-inlinefabrication-com/

These have been very well received and I have also evolved to a brighter white output led. I started with warm white to keep it easy on the eyes, but during further testing decided to roll with the Bright White for max lumen's.


http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3674-1.jpghttp://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3681-1.jpghttp://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3693-1.jpghttp://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/IMG_3701-1.jpghttp://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20Press%20light/led-1.jpg

1in9twist
January 12, 2012, 01:12 AM
By listening to input and feedback that I ask for, I have created a "Modular" system. It uses the same LEDS that are in the original kit, but feature a quick connect so you can use the same power supply, for other LED "pigtail" equipped presses.
Also, option of a splitter to run 2 LED's off of 1 power supply or run a "ceiling" kit.

:D

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/IMG_4046.jpg

New "Ceiling" kit.
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/IMG_4102.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20press%20light%202%200/IMG_4085.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20press%20light%202%200/IMG_40812.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp206/1in9twist/LED%20press%20light%202%200/IMG_40802.jpg

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