Full size counterpart to Kahr 9mm


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mountaindrew
October 21, 2011, 04:50 AM
I am looking for any other kahr shooters out ther to chime in on this. I everyday carry a Kahr pm9, And I love it. It points perfectly naturally for me, and I love the trigger. I wouldn't trade this gun for anything as a carry piece. My question is, is there a duty sized, double stack gun available that has similar characteristics? I mean grip angle, smooth double action trigger, preferably striker fired. I could just get a cw9 or p9, but those are still small guns, I am looking fot something larger. I want all of my guns to point the same and have a similar trigger feel, so I can interchange them for carry without thinking too much. Any input is appreciated, thanks.

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ugaarguy
October 21, 2011, 05:15 AM
SIG P250, and S&W 5943 are the closest I can think of in terms of light DAO trigger pull.

LightningMan
October 21, 2011, 08:52 AM
I also have a PM9 and am very happy with it, but I don't see anything in a full size duty gun that is made by Kahr. Maybe someday there will be, for now your only option is to find some other gun manufacturer with a trigger similar to Kahr's. LM

chris in va
October 21, 2011, 09:00 AM
but I don't see anything in a full size duty gun that is made by Kahr.

T9?

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I have a K9 and I can fit all three fingers on the grip, comfortably. I know it's not a double stack but still worth looking at.

shoen1200
October 21, 2011, 09:12 AM
I own a pm9 and a p45. I have modified my p45 grip length to that of a pm45.
Of all the pistols I own, it is one of the kahrs that I usually carry.
I have lots of range time with the Kahrs and have learned to like the smooth easy dao trigger.
I do wish the Kahrs had a shorter reset though…
I also own an h&k p2000 in .40 s&w with lem trigger – I think the trigger type is also referred to as v2 but do not remember for certain.
The lem trigger is dao with restrike capability. The p2000 uses a double stack magazine.
I find it VERY easy to transition from/to the h&k and kahrs in same range session in regards to trigger and pointing.
I have never tried one, but maybe a double stack para ordinance 1911 with their light dao trigger would be something to investigate.

Madcap_Magician
October 21, 2011, 10:36 AM
T9 is probably the best bet.

Personally, I feel that the K9/P9 are the best sized carry guns out there.

Just enough grip length for me to get a full grip, slim, and they didn't chop the barrel way down. I am really jonesing for a K9 Elite 2003 with XS standard dot sights. I had a P9 for a while and miss it.

usp9
October 21, 2011, 04:26 PM
T9 is probably the best bet.

That or the TP9

LightningMan
October 21, 2011, 09:24 PM
Is the T9 a double stack magazine pistol? LM

mountaindrew
October 21, 2011, 09:40 PM
I bet I would like a t9, but around here I have never seen or held one in ant store. Or a tp9 For that matter. I would love to try one out some day.

dogtown tom
October 21, 2011, 10:20 PM
mountaindrew I am looking for any other kahr shooters out ther to chime in on this. I everyday carry a Kahr pm9, And I love it. It points perfectly naturally for me, and I love the trigger. I wouldn't trade this gun for anything as a carry piece. My question is, is there a duty sized, double stack gun available that has similar characteristics? I mean grip angle, smooth double action trigger, preferably striker fired. I could just get a cw9 or p9, but those are still small guns, I am looking fot something larger. I want all of my guns to point the same and have a similar trigger feel, so I can interchange them for carry without thinking too much. Any input is appreciated, thanks.

As others have pointed out, the T9/TP9 are the largest 9mm's that Kahr manufactures. It is not a double stack and hold one more round than the K9/P9, two more rounds than the MK9/PM9. Kahr does not make any double stacks.

mountaindrew
October 22, 2011, 10:46 PM
I guess i wasn't clear in my original post. I was not asking what was kahrs larger model, i was asking if any other manufacturers make a gun with a similar trigger, and one that points similarly to kahr models. I am intrigued by the t9, but I would never lay down $700 dollars to special order a gun I had never even seen, and the T9 is like a mystery model. I frequent several dealers who stock kahrs, but have never seen a T9 in stock.

DeepSouth
October 22, 2011, 10:52 PM
Get the TP9.

Same grip angle, same trigger, striker fired, 5" barrel, not a double stack but still 8+1.

MikePaiN
October 22, 2011, 10:55 PM
To get what you want mountaindrew, you're going to have to turn to Sig. either a DAK or P250

zeek96
October 22, 2011, 11:55 PM
I second the sig 250 for the double stack option and similar trigger to the kahr pm9.

usp9
October 23, 2011, 08:37 AM
the T9 is like a mystery model. I frequent several dealers who stock kahrs, but have never seen a T9 in stock.
Kahr has only produced about 1200 of the T9. They are fairly rare.

i was asking if any other manufacturers make a gun with a similar trigger,
The problem being there are no other pistols with that type of trigger/striker mechanism, and hence that same "feel".

5" barrel
It has a 4" barrel though, not 5.

Seven For Sure
October 24, 2011, 02:04 PM
I'd have a bunch of steel Kahrs if anyone stocked them also. As it is the only steel Kahr I own is a black K40 I bought used. My only used firearm out of over 40-sum handguns and 20-sum long guns. I love that thing!

Happinessisawarmgun
October 24, 2011, 04:00 PM
Someeone said the k9 is a double stack?? Since when? I have a cw9, I was under the impression kahr has no double stacks. Didbi miss something?

usp9
October 24, 2011, 04:16 PM
Someeone said the k9 is a double stack??

Who, which post?

mountaindrew
October 27, 2011, 07:36 PM
I got to look at and handle a Sig 250 sub compact with the small grip yesterday, and you guys are right, it pointed perfectly naturally for me. the trigger wasn't too bad either. I think a compact model with the small grip might be a good compromise. Thanks for the tip. My only concern is that it seems that parts are verh hard to come by for the "interchangeable" system.

mastiffhound
October 28, 2011, 04:42 AM
If think you can find a used sig sp 2009 for $400 or less. It is double stack, fairly light, and still a carry possibility. Mine has been a joy. You can also get parts from top gun.

MJ_ATL
October 28, 2011, 11:21 AM
Problem I see with the suggestions is that none of them have the same low bore axis and exact operating mechanism of the Kahr. I'd like to see a 10 -13 round version of the Kahr 9mm pistols with a 4" barrel. I'd buy one in a minute if it shot anything like my PM9.

Madcap_Magician
December 2, 2011, 06:02 PM
I've seen a lot of T9s in stock... even seen a few locally, which is impressive, because my local gun shows and stores usually have nothing except beef jerky.

Armybrat
December 2, 2011, 06:11 PM
No love for the Ruger SR9?

TonyT
December 2, 2011, 07:44 PM
The Kahr Da trigger is unique and you will not find another whch will duplicate it. In a singlr stack the Kahr T-9 is a nice pistol.

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