No holster carry?


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anomoly40
October 22, 2011, 07:35 PM
Besides the obvious pocket carry for certain guns, are there people on here who don't use a holster to carry? Im 6' 180 and I find that quite a few holsters make the gun sit higher than I like and the handle prints like no tomorrow. I tried just sliding my CZ 82 in the waist band of my favorite jeans and found that the thickness of the handle holds it there nicely until I can find/make a clip like the one found on pocket knives to attach to the "workhorse" grips.

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RNB65
October 22, 2011, 07:38 PM
I'll carry a snubbie revolver in a coat pocket without a holster. But semi-autos are always in holster -- either a belt or kydex pocket holster.

JTQ
October 22, 2011, 07:51 PM
Maybe you'd like the ClipDraw?

http://www.clipdraw.com/combat-handguns

However, my .02 is, without a holster you have a good chance of the pistol sliding down inside your pants down your pant leg. The result is either a clunk on the floor or a grab for the pistol, ala Plaxico Burris.

Low riding on the belt though does make it difficult to grab the grip without the belt interfering.

A good holster with a good belt should keep the grip of your pistol close to your body.

anomoly40
October 22, 2011, 07:54 PM
I seen that clipdraw and will probably make one at work.

Sam1911
October 22, 2011, 07:55 PM
Sure. Some do. Some folks have always done so.

It isn't generally considered a very good idea for several reasons -- safety, retention, SAFETY -- but you probably already knew that.

Finding a holster that lets the gun ride just where you want can be a bit of a challenge, but there are lots of different options from a wide variety of makers so you CAN find what you're looking for -- or have it made just like you want.

TexasRifleman
October 22, 2011, 07:58 PM
An instructor at a recent Gunsite class showed he carries a backup revolver that way and has for many years.

I have done it and it worried me sick.

Do what is safe and works for you.

R.W.Dale
October 22, 2011, 07:58 PM
I've carried using the Velcro elastic tension straps of a back brace to hold a glock.

But I suppose that just means a back brace can serve as an impromptu holster

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KenW.
October 22, 2011, 08:06 PM
Ask Plaxico Burris about no-holster carry.

Onward Allusion
October 22, 2011, 08:14 PM
anomoly40
No holster carry?

Unless you carry in condition 3, it's a bad idea. Even then, you stand the risk of it sliding down your pant leg. Carrying a pistol with a round in the chamber without a holster is unwise - too easy to have a negligent discharge.

sKunkT
October 22, 2011, 11:03 PM
The things I carry in my jeans are too valuable to just have an upholstered firearm floating around in there.

Mello
October 22, 2011, 11:15 PM
Consider what the most likely reaction to feeling your CZ slip down you pant leg would be. You grab it. In that event, the risk of a negligent discharge is significant.

Retention and safety, as previously stated above; are why it is worth the search to find a suitable holster for your carry gun. Find a holster which will retain your weapon even if you fall or tumble over.

Hunter125
October 22, 2011, 11:22 PM
I am very wary of carrying a gun without having the trigger covered. I am comfortable depending on a heavy double action trigger for a safety, but not for carry purposes. At the very least put it in a generic slide holster. The clipdraws make me cringe.

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anomoly40
October 22, 2011, 11:46 PM
Yeah, Ive been carrying it around the house with no magazine for a few hours now and although it hasn't moved, I don't find it comfortable as the chimp uncocked hammer keeps digging into my belly and I find myself adjusting it as it becomes uncomfortable. I know the added weight from a loaded magazine would only add to that. I know a guy who has a Blackhawk IWB holster that might work form me.

MyGreenGuns
October 23, 2011, 12:00 AM
I have a clipdraw for my .38. I didnt think I'd like it but it surprised me.

mio
October 23, 2011, 07:59 AM
i share your pain the cheap iwb holsters ive tried always ride to high for me to be comfortable. ive taken to carrying small guns in my watch pocket. the right gun rides very nicely there.

Lawdawg45
October 23, 2011, 09:08 AM
I carried a J frame equipped with a "Hip Grip" back in the 80's, but even with that the gun would rotate to an uncomfortable cant, so I switched to an IWB.;)

LD

scramasax
October 23, 2011, 10:53 AM
I have used a clipdraw on a 1911 commander for over 20yrs in condition 1 and have never had a problem. I have also carried pistols and knives on ocassion in an OSS holster, a stout string in a loop tucked through the belt. Not an ideal carry but OK when you need to UA in a hurry.

Cheers,

ts

PX15
October 23, 2011, 11:04 AM
JMOfartO:

By nature I'm opposed to "no holster carry"..

Having said that I have a couple of snubby's as my vehicle "hidey guns" with "Barami Hip-grips" that IF I had to I would feel ok about carrying slipped inside my waistband with the outside "flange" or "lip" slipped over the belt.

I don't worry about accidental discharges as the old snubby's have pretty stout double-action triggers.

Jesse

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_5050.jpg

OldTman
October 23, 2011, 01:44 PM
In summer I carry my 442 in my waistband with a Barami grip. When the cooler weather comes it goes in my outside pocket.

RedAlert
October 23, 2011, 04:36 PM
I've found that when you carry OWB, if you are able to carry the holster pistol between the waistband and belt, you can cinch it to your side as snug as you like. This keeps the rig from moving around, keeps the grip tucked into your side and not poking out against your shirt, etc.
I use an Uncle Mike's pancake holster and find it to work very well. I know it's not leather, but is lighter, more conformal and inexpensive. At a price point around $20 or so, you could replace it every year if you felt it was worn out. Also it allows you to carry it with or without a "thumb-break" retention device. And at this price, about a box of ammo, you could toss it if you find it completely unacceptable. Given an honest trial, I don't think you would toss it though.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/uncle-mike-3-4-inch-barrel-medium-autos.html

Ringolevio
October 24, 2011, 02:14 PM
scramasax:
I have also carried pistols and knives on ocassion in an OSS holster, a stout string in a loop tucked through the belt. Not an ideal carry but OK when you need to UA in a hurry.

I was gonna mention this before "scramasax" beat me to it. I never knew it as an OSS (Office of Strategic Services?) holster, but just thought of it as a variation on "Mexican carry". It can slow down the draw but definitely keeps the gun from sliding down your leg and hitting the floor.

RDF:
I use an Uncle Mike's pancake holster and find it to work very well. I know it's not leather, but is lighter, more conformal and inexpensive. At a price point around $20 or so, you could replace it every year if you felt it was worn out. Also it allows you to carry it with or without a "thumb-break" retention device. And at this price, about a box of ammo, you could toss it if you find it completely unacceptable. Given an honest trial, I don't think you would toss it though.

I have one of those, and a couple of similar ones from another maker. They'll hold my 1911s, my P-35 and even my J-Frame or SP 101 quite well and tight against my body. That's what I use when I feel it's too hot for leather. But I have leather holsters (like a belt slide from Bob Mernickle) that work just fine.

I also have a selection of fanny packs and similar belt packs. Some work better than others. Anything with a zipper is a lot slower to open than the ones that just rip open with Velcro, but some of the zippered ones just conceal better. Everything is a tradeoff.

Carter
October 24, 2011, 02:19 PM
I've done it a few times. Usually its for a very short amount of time and I don't feel like throwing on a holster cause I'm coming right back home. One day I did it for a few hours and it was uncomfortable. I had to take it out of my pants every time I sat down in the car and every time I bent over or knelt down I thought it was going to fall out.

It was comfortable other than that. Didn't pull my pants down or hurt my back. I kept it at about the 6 or 5:30 position. Don't particularly like carrying a handgun up front without a holster. Just makes me feel.....uneasy.

jiminhobesound
October 24, 2011, 03:34 PM
I have a CZ82 that I really like but it is too heavy to carry, as I do, in my pocket. There are many light weight small 9MMs that you can carry in your pocket. They do not print, they supply sufficient power and they are comfortable. I also occasionaly carry my small 9MM in a small belt pouch that can also carry my cell phone. Small, light weight and 9MM are the keys.

suzukisam
October 24, 2011, 10:55 PM
I personally like no holster carry.. I pack a cz75 duty with an exposed hammer with the decocker option.. it was recomended by a local police chief, and I was uncomfortable at first..but now I much prefer it. I don't see how its gonna slide down my leg.. and I'm not a thug in a night club(plexico burris)..it's easy to have your gun at your ankles when you wear you pants at your knees!

ultradoc
October 25, 2011, 08:15 AM
I carry my P3AT in mt pants pocket. A buddy said that I am a law breaker and it is supposed to be in a holster. Is this true? We are both live in Ohio and have ccp bty.

pockets
October 25, 2011, 09:12 AM
I carry my P3AT in mt pants pocket. A buddy said that I am a law breaker and it is supposed to be in a holster. Is this true? We are both live in Ohio and have ccp bty.
I believe your buddy is referring to the old Ohio law (obsolete since 2009, IIRC) concerning carrying a CCW handgun in a vehicle...where it had to be in a holster or case. At the time, there was much debate about the legality of Kel-Tec and such carry clips. There is no such car/holster requirement now, plus it never was about concealed carry on your person.
Actually, the Ohio laws for car carry changed again (for the better) about a month ago (09-30-11).
I would encourage you to read the Ohio CCW laws if you are carrying a concealed handgun. Don't depend on what a buddy, thread responders, or I say.

That said, I would personally not carry without a holster, unless I had no other option. Carrying it around the house is a bit different than all day long, every day.

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BigShep85
October 25, 2011, 09:51 AM
I have a S&W M&P that I carry inside the waistband with no holster I take it everywhere and it is much more convenient for if I have to take it out. It has never slid down my leg or fallen out, or shot me. I have spent whole days shopping with the wife walking around the mall without a problem, I wear a belt and it sits just fine. I dont however carry one in the chamber. I too am a tall guy and it also fits comfortably in my pocket without printing.

Sam1911
October 25, 2011, 10:04 AM
[I've moved a number of posts on holster stores/buying which were off-topic in this discussion into a thread of their own, here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=621893).]

dhodgins
October 26, 2011, 02:01 PM
No holster + semi auto = moronic. Unloaded CCW? :banghead:

There are plenty of no-frills kydex/leather holster options, Silent Thunder for example, that are plenty comfortable AND safe.

jogar80
October 26, 2011, 03:44 PM
Mexican carry works, especially with a snug, stiff belt. Obviously I prefer to carry in a IWB holster... but when my wife sends me out for a gallon of milk or a pack of butter that she needs RIGHT NOW, there's no time to fiddle with strapping on my holster! LOL. That's where Mexican Carry fits the bill.

anomoly40
October 26, 2011, 04:24 PM
Im going to buy a man purse...

jogar80
October 26, 2011, 04:33 PM
LOL... I hate to admit, I tried that once. Unless you are used to carrying a purse, you WILL forget it somewhere... usually public restrooms, lol. You'll be happily strolling along with friends or family, then stop and turn pale as you say OMG to yourself. Then you'll turn and run back to the restroom (or wherever you left your purse) saying all kinds of prayers and curses simultaneously. Finally, you'll get to your destination and breathe a sigh of relief at the sight of your purse still hangining right where you left it (if you're lucky)... and then proceed to sit right back down on the toilet since you now realize you had crapped your pants in fear.

.... Don't get a purse...

mdauben
October 26, 2011, 04:47 PM
Besides the obvious pocket carry for certain guns, are there people on here who don't use a holster to carry?
Personally, I don't even pocket carry without a holster. That is in part becuase I use striker-fired guns (Glock, Kahr) which I am not comfortable carrying without a holster that covers the trigger.

I find that quite a few holsters make the gun sit higher than I like and the handle prints like no tomorrow
THat is, I think, a deliberate design choice, as many people find that guns which ride high tend to conceal better and/or are more comfortable to carry. There are some IWB holster that are designed to carry the gun as low as possible that you might want to look into (ex. RM Holster Works Low Rider IWB (http://rmholsters.com/store/))

tunnug
October 26, 2011, 05:04 PM
How about a trigger holster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mww-DQBbtfc

dprice3844444
October 26, 2011, 05:13 PM
nrastore.org

http://www.concealedcomfort.com/

JohnnyK
October 26, 2011, 05:16 PM
no holster carry = STUPID! There are too many great holsters out threre to keep your gun in place when you need it...

suzukisam
October 26, 2011, 07:54 PM
no holster carry = STUPID! There are too many great holsters out threre to keep your gun in place when you need it...

posting blanket statements on the internet= stupidity... I have some very expensive holsters, but i am more comfortable without them, I also don't carry little pee shooters, I carry a full size auto! It never slides,drops or falls, and it is always right where I want it... not sure what your talking about...

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