Remington Model 2


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Bikeguy
January 28, 2003, 08:38 AM
My grandfather left me a Remington Model 2 .22 cal rifle, and I am looking for the history of when it was made, etc. I can post the serial number tomorrow. He said his father gave it to him around 1950. Just looking for some info. Thanks

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ACP230
January 28, 2003, 09:08 AM
Gun Trader's Guide: Eighteenth Edition shows the Remington Model 2 as a single-shot, rolling-block actioned rifle made in .22, 25, .32, .38, and .44 rimfire or centerfire cartridges. It had a straight grip walnut sporting stock with a knobtip forearm. The book shows a production range of 1873 t0 1910. Value in excellent shape is listed in the old Gun Trader's is around $495-550. Centfire calibers bring more $. HTH.

Bikeguy
January 28, 2003, 10:29 AM
Thanks

Jagermeister
January 28, 2003, 01:26 PM
Bikeguy:
Here is some history and a little trivia on the Remington Rolling Block (Rider) rifle

In 1886, the mfg marks changed from the old E. Remington & Sons, Ilion N.Y. to the new Remington Arms Co. After the failure of the original family business. Virtually all rifles had five-groove rifling with right hand twist.

The No. 2 was a sporting rifle as opposed to military, and is also known as the Gem or New Model Light Rifle. This was made from 1872 to about 1910. It was an ultra-light Rolling Block, with as much weight saved in its action as preacticble. It was also made for a selection of centerfire cartridges and a few rimfires. It had an octagonal barrel, a straight wrist and a crescent butt plate.

The standard barrel lengths included 24,26, 28 and 30" weight varying between 5.5lb and 8 lb. Chambering are known to have included 25-20,Single shot, 25-20 Winchester, 32-20, Winchester, 32-40 Winchester 38-40, Remington, 38040 Winchester or 44-40 Winchester.

RIDER
Other Names: REmington Rolling Block
Remington Rider
Mfg: E. Remington & Sons
Ilion NY
DENMARK:

Model: 1867
Mfg: Remington & Sons
Year of Mfg: 1867-70
Quantity: 40,450

Gevaerfabrik, 1870-88
Quantity: 80,000 Exclude conversions
Caliber: 11.7X51mm Rimmed
Action: Radial Block
Length: 1,280mm
Weight: 4.20kg
Barrel Length: 907mm
Groove: 5 RH concentric
—Velocity: 375m/sec W/1867 Ball ctg

The rolling block breech, developed from the earlier split breech pattern credited to Leonard Geiger, was the subject of patents granted to Joseph Rider in the late 1860's. The essence of the
system lay in an interlock between a sturdy hammer and the radial breech piece.

The US Army did not view the rolling blocks with any enthusiasm, foreign governments ordering more. Denmark ordered substantial numbers of the rifles and carbines in a ;year in which the Rider breech received a silver medal from the Paris Exposition.

Remington claimed sales of 16,500 rifles and carbines and pistols to the US Army, 23,000 to the Navy 15,000 model 1871 Locking rifles to New :Your State and 5,000 rifle musket conversions to South Carolina. Among export orders 75,000 rifles and carbines supplied to Spain for fuse in Cuba, beginning in 1867 and 30,000 guns; for Sweden from 1868 forward.

Differing patterns advertised were the .50 caliber, US Model 1871, .58 Caliber Springfield rifle muskets, long and short, the .43 or llmm caliber Spanish Remington or Russian, .43 Caliber
Civil Guard model and the .43 French model chambered for the Egyptian Cog. these models were also made in the .43 and .50 caliber carbines.

Military weapons were also made for Denmark, caliber 8X58mm rimmed, and a carbine in the same caliber as the 1887 Infantry rifle. Egypt also purchased the Rider in caliber 11.43X50mm
rimmed in 1868, with Mexico purchasing 10,000 in caliber 7X57mm rimless. Norway purchased 5,800 in 1867 in caliber 12.17mm rimmed, and 8X58mm rimmed cartridge.

Spain Purchased the American rifle, carbine, version, (Spanish Remington) in 1870 caliber 11X58mm rimmed. Subsequent purchases by Spain were affected in 1871 for the Royal body guard rifle, infantry rifles, short rifles and carbines.


JM:)

Bikeguy
January 28, 2003, 02:03 PM
Thanks. That's a lot of info.

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