I have Couple buddies interested in buying my S&W 642 with the lock, so I figured if I could find a no lock locally that I would begame. Well today I found a NIB 442 and 642, so I checked it out and put money down on the 442 to replace my 642 when I sell it. I am so pumped to find one! My question is, the frame says 442-1, so are these old frames from before the lock or are they just current frames made on a limited basis? Thanks for any info and as soon as I get my hands on this sweetness I will have pics and a range report.:cool:
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October 24, 2011, 11:02 PM
The only change from the -1 to the -2 was the addition of the lock, so making them again without the lock and no other changes would make them -1.
October 25, 2011, 01:13 AM
S&W is making Centennial J frames new without the lock hole. They are new production, not leftovers. Besides making no-lock Centennial J frames they are also making no-lock Centennial Airlite J frames.
Now if they would only make a M438 Bodyguard frame in a no lock I would be VERY happy!
October 25, 2011, 01:29 AM
sweet :). Now come join the 642 club part three which has been transforming into the 442 no lock club ;)
October 25, 2011, 01:37 AM
I like the Centennial J frame so much I have both the M642-1 and M442-1... :D (just for those times when you need a NY reload!)
October 25, 2011, 02:36 AM
Ya, my only other revolver with a lock is the 638. I also wish they would offer the -38 models without the lock.
October 25, 2011, 04:38 AM
bdb, the 442 and 642 in -1 variant signified the transition from the J Frame, to the J Magnum Frame. The -2 variants came out when the lock was introduced, and the -1 guns were temporarily dropped. Since there were no changes, when the no lock x42s were reintroduced, they were sold as -1 models.
That's a long answer to say that if it's a new gun, then it's a new frame.
October 25, 2011, 04:46 AM
Thanks for the info guys!
October 26, 2011, 01:56 AM
Bodyguards without locks.... YES! Please God, YES!!!
October 26, 2011, 05:19 PM
Just bought a 642 with no lock - same price as the 442, same price with or without a lock
and less than Bud's - from my LGS - makes me happy
October 26, 2011, 11:14 PM
A couple weeks ago I bought another Smith. It's been a long times since I bought any S&W. This shop had all their "J" frames on sale. 80.00 off. Actually it was 100.00 off from Smith's MSRP. I was going to get the 642 but decided on the 442 instead. Unfortunately it has the lock. I have several Smiths from the mid to late 70's. I see a big difference in the quality from back then to the ones made today. Some of my older Smith's have never been fired.
October 28, 2011, 12:09 AM
Congratulations on the new 442! One of my favorites. :)