.22 similar to Beretta Bobcat


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Ash_J_Williams
October 26, 2011, 03:15 PM
I'm looking into a .22 auto, and I like the Bobcat, it's smaller than my current Pheonix and probably better made. Any suggestions for one similar to the Bobcat that I could find for a good price?

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Jim Watson
October 26, 2011, 03:22 PM
If you like the Bobcat, GET a Bobcat. It might cost a bit more than some knockoff but you will have a good quality name brand gun long after the bill is paidl.

BossHogg
October 26, 2011, 03:26 PM
Just get a Bobcat and run CCI Mini-Mag and all will be good.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2760/4201260426_afd4b7c951_z.jpg

I've had mine for 20+ years and even qualified my CCW class with it.

Ash_J_Williams
October 26, 2011, 03:35 PM
If you like the Bobcat, GET a Bobcat. It might cost a bit more than some knockoff but you will have a good quality name brand gun long after the bill is paidl.

That's kind of the thing, many of the reviews I've read from previous owners cite them as unreliable using bulk ammo. If I want to practice with it, I don't want to be running through thousands of more expensive rounds.

BossHogg
October 26, 2011, 03:51 PM
If it don't fire just tip the barrel up and pull out that bulk ammo round. I like the bulk ammo for revolvers. I shoot CCI Mini-Mag in all my auto's.

Shadow 7D
October 26, 2011, 03:54 PM
That design is much copied, every thing from Taurus's to spanish pistol to *other* italian manufactures

MedWheeler
October 26, 2011, 10:33 PM
The Phoenix, as you've probably noticed, is a fun shooter indeed. But I'm sure you've also noticed how heavy it is for it's size and caliber. If you really do like the Bobcat, but are set on getting a "not-Bobcat", the Taurus PT-22 might fill the bill. Reviews are mixed, and any gun that small (including the Bobcat) can be temperamental with bulk ammo, but the gun will either work, or will be made by Taurus to work if you tell them about it.

BCCL
October 26, 2011, 11:36 PM
Taurus TP-22, but plan on using CCI Stingers or Mini-Mags.

MICHAEL T
October 27, 2011, 12:11 AM
Mine went to factory 2 times was POS. I have 2 of the beretta's now Both mine shoot CCI Standard Velocity But reall like the mini mag best.

Bulk ammo good for a revolver but not for a auto.

pockets
October 28, 2011, 10:22 AM
I own both the Beretta 21A Bobcat and the Taurus PT22.
My Bobcat cycles very well with cheap bulk CCI Blazer and Federal/Walmart-550-pack ammo. It cycles well with most bulk stuff, except Remington. It adores CCI Mini-Mags, 100% reliable function with them.
On the other hand, my Taurus PT22 only cycles CCI Mini-Mags reliably. It balks at bulk.

Both are a lot of fun as single-shots with Colibri ammo too. :)

I like the Beretta better overall. It is SA/DA, has a nice trigger, and has smooth action.
The Taurus is DAO and a bit rough out of the box. However, it's magazine holds one more round than the Beretta.

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Moptop
October 28, 2011, 07:17 PM
I was going to buy a Taurus TP-22 until I did my homeork on it. Generally more bad than good info on their reliability. Needless to say I steered clear of it and The Beretta's where just out of my price range. So... I bought a Phoenix HP-22a. It's been a perfect shooter from day one. No jams what so ever with any ammo used, even some 20 year old bulk stuff I found in my Dad had stashed. It's decent on accuratecy too.

A very good pistol over-all in spite of the price.

NG VI
October 28, 2011, 08:25 PM
I had a PT-22 that was actually extremely reliable, I tended to only shoot hi-velocity or stuff like the Aguila SSS and CCI/Aguila?Remington Stinger-style loads, which may have been what did it, but a lot of those regular hi-velocity cartridges were just Federal and Winchester bulk.

I couldn't believe it either.

Super Sneaky Steve
October 28, 2011, 11:22 PM
That's kind of the thing, many of the reviews I've read from previous owners cite them as unreliable using bulk ammo. If I want to practice with it, I don't want to be running through thousands of more expensive rounds.

I thought I was the cheapest man alive but you take the cake. Try saving money by unplugging your microwave when not in use and buy some CCI ammo. It's still way cheaper than any center fire stuff.

chicharrones
October 30, 2011, 12:50 PM
If you do get a Bobcat, try and find the non-hollow point CCI Mini-Mags. Mini-Mags in the hollow point version still get hung up in my Bobcat from time to time. Same with CCI Stingers since Stingers are hollow points.

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/1301225774/cci-mini-mag-high-velocity-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-plated-lead-round-nose

Ash_J_Williams
October 30, 2011, 08:23 PM
I thought I was the cheapest man alive but you take the cake. Try saving money by unplugging your microwave when not in use and buy some CCI ammo. It's still way cheaper than any center fire stuff.

I don't get what the big issue is, or why it seems so cheap or unreasonable.

If you're firing thousands of rounds, that's going to add up. The difference between the bulk stuff and the better ammo is going to add up quickly over time. Pretty simple concept.

2wheels
October 30, 2011, 08:34 PM
I don't get what the big issue is, or why it seems so cheap or unreasonable.

If you're firing thousands of rounds, that's going to add up. The difference between the bulk stuff and the better ammo is going to add up quickly over time. Pretty simple concept.
Worst case scenario, a .22LR pistol that doesn't run 100% reliably on the cheap stuff at the range allows you to practice failure drills. I wouldn't worry too much about it, in my experience a lot of .22LR autos can be touchy with the cheap stuff.

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