Coyote hunting questions


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Byron Quick
January 29, 2004, 11:45 PM
1) I bought a "coyote howler" call. The darn thing not does not sound like any coyote I've ever heard...it doesn't sound like any living thing I've ever heard. Is this normal?

2) .223...what type of ammo to use?


obvious I'm a coyote newbie, ain't it?:D

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yesterdaysyouth
January 30, 2004, 01:18 AM
the howler isn't the easiest thing in the world to manipulate, but it can be done....

i picked up a knight and hale last weekend, pinch the tube pretty tight and blow hard.... just work at it and you can get something close... behind the call it really doesn't sound like a yote' but from a distance my friends tell me it does...

still haven't figured out the bark yet, just sounds like a doe bleat to me...


as far as ammo goes it depends.. if you want to sell the fur, then something like a 40gr. v max but just for blasting i like to use a 69gr matchking... nice big hole in and out...

Byron Quick
January 30, 2004, 03:23 AM
I kinda doubt that furs from eastern central Georgia are going to be in much demand.

Art Eatman
January 30, 2004, 10:44 AM
I've always used a wounded-rabbit call. Jackrabbit, out west; cottontail in other areas (the cottontail sound is a bit higher pitched than the jack.)

At the ranges you're likely to shoot, most any old bullet will work. I've mostly used 50- to 55-grain soft points, but the full-jacket GI stuff blows up just fine within 100 yards.

Art

Smoke
January 30, 2004, 11:15 AM
Howlers are just good for locating coyotes. It won't bring them to you.

Need the jack rabbit/cottontail/etc type call to get them up close and personal.

I use the cheapest .223 rounds they have in stock at the loca gun shop. Always seemed to work...no matter what it was. Prefer .22-250

Smoke

Greybeard
January 30, 2004, 11:27 AM
Bass Pro Shop or the like will have some "how to call" tapes. But, agreed, the rabbit squealers are much simpler. (And ya don't need to throw money out for some "expert's" tape. ;) )

Thereafter, if ya do want to leave some extra cash with the store, Hornady's V-Max is about "the latest and greatest" if trying to eliminate exit wounds. But, the Winchester 40-round value packs of JHPs will make 'em just as dead. :)

Specialized
February 2, 2004, 08:52 PM
Smoke's right, the howler will mostly only locate them, although if you know what you're doing, a challenge howl will bring dominant dogs to you pretty quickly. I've seen it done, and it's pretty impressive. I've only had a coyote come to my howling once -- don't know exactly what I said, but he certainly took exception to it! Rabbit calls work great, as do fawn distress calls. My experience has been that the jackrabbit call works best where I am. I haven't been on a hunt where a tape-recorded caller worked, either -- may just be luck of the draw and my limited experience.

You might want to check out this website for good calls:

http://www.callingcoyotes.com/cart/webcart.cgi?CHANGE=YES&NEXTPAGE=/calls.html&CODE=PHOLD

It's a great reference site, I got started by watching their tapes and just going out and trying the calls. Their calls are cheap, wooden, and they work great. Good luck -- hope this helps.

Specialized

Surely
February 2, 2004, 10:34 PM
Varmint Al's (http://www.varmintal.com/ahunt.htm)
Here is what they should sound like I guess, but Im no expert.

Tactical
February 6, 2004, 10:08 PM
I use a cotton tail distress call with the .223

JHill
February 10, 2004, 12:02 AM
Predatormasters.com (http://www.predatormasters.com)

Should be all the info you can read this season...:cool:

H&Hhunter
February 10, 2004, 10:51 AM
The howl is a multi faceted call. there is a locator howl as Smoke said. But there are several other barks and howls that will in fact bring a coyote running in fighting mad.

You will have to learn these calls as I couldn't even begin to exlain them over the net.

Scerry has a good video that explains all the various barks and howls very well.

If you've ever seen a guy who's a good with a howler it'll blow your mind. Even call shy yotes will respond to a well done howl or bark. (usually) I guess it's just a matter of time before yotes learn to be howl shy as well.;)

Newt
February 10, 2004, 12:14 PM
I've had coyotes come to a wounded distress call in a tape player in a pick-up. I seem to have better luck from a portable tape player with a loud speaker. I just carry it out to some cover somewhere and hit play. I've always had good luck with the pre-recorded stuff. I guess it depends on what kind of mood ol' bushy-tailed Wiley is in.

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