Kel-Tec P-3AT question


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glenns
October 30, 2011, 07:25 PM
I picked up a P3AT a few months ago and was having trouble with FTEs. Seemed like every 2-3 shots I'd have a FTE. Tried different rounds and gave up. I decided to look at the Instruction book today....lo and behold when I read the disassembly instructions I realized I might be missing the Ejector (part 115). Per the instructions: "CAUTION: Once the slide is removed, the Ejector will easily fall out."

Question - will rounds eject at all without the 'ejector?'

Can someone post a picture of the frame with the ejector. When I disassemble I do not have any part that 'fell out.':banghead:

I'll go the the Kel-Tec website and order an ejector...or maybe 2 of them.

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rcmodel
October 30, 2011, 07:33 PM
They usually work without the ejector when the gun is fired and there are still rounds in the magazine.

Sometimes they won't eject the last round with an empty mag.
And they won't hand-cycle eject loaded rounds at all.

It's part #115 in the owners manual schematic drawing.
It fits in the slot on the left rear side of the aluminum frame insert in the grip.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/resources/f_ba8132b8f3bf000087607ee4a84036c7P-3atmanual.pdf

rc

JDGray
October 30, 2011, 07:41 PM
My ejector broke off in my P11, not sure on the P3AT set up, but it would eject 1/2 the time without it. I didn't notice it was broke until I got home, and called KT about it. They sent me 2 ejectors and roll pins, and told me it was common.

After looking at RCs link, it is a completely different set up than the P11. Dosen't look like a stamped steel part like the P11 has.

rcmodel
October 30, 2011, 08:15 PM
You P11 ejector is a bent tab projection on the slide stop.

The P3AT doesn't have a slide stop and the ejector is a steel insert that sets in a milled slot in the frame.

rc

JDGray
October 30, 2011, 08:37 PM
Actually, the ejector(115) is a stand alone part, pinned into the aluminum body.
http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/resources/f_cf60f479d3c2c3880c85ea8695703074P11manual.pdf

JDGray
October 30, 2011, 09:01 PM
That was one of the reasons my P3AT went away for a Ruger LCP. That loose ejector.

My LCP had a loose ejector, brass would fly in any dirrection, with no hopes of finding it all. The finish was way nicer than any KT I had owned in the past.

Bobo
October 30, 2011, 11:07 PM
rcmodel's answer is accurate.
This is a top view of the ejector in place.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/r_oremland/Self-Defense/05PC030028web.jpg

JDGray
October 30, 2011, 11:27 PM
Accurate for the P32, not for the P11 I fixed

Nashvegas
October 31, 2011, 12:38 AM
My P3AT had the same issue, but it had nothing to do with the ejector... it just failed a lot. And by a lot, i mean, i couldn't get through a 6-round magazine without a jam, FTE, etc.. I ended up taking it back, paying 30 bucks more for an LCP, and couldn't be happier... haven't had one failure or jam, shoots like a champ.

jmstevens2
October 31, 2011, 01:36 AM
Mine runs fine, only issue is how far it throws the brass. Easy to lose. Call them they are great about service. They will fix it if needed and send a mag or two for your trouble. I had a base snap off of an extended mag and they sent me 2 for free to replace it.

khegglie
October 31, 2011, 11:35 AM
have a NAA guardian that doesnt have an ejector. They tend to stovepipe the last fired round; not considered a design flaw by the company.

glenns
October 31, 2011, 11:15 PM
I sent an email to Kel-Tec yesterday. Got a reply this morning that they'll send me a free ejector.

TexasRifleman
October 31, 2011, 11:24 PM
My P3AT had the same issue, but it had nothing to do with the ejector... it just failed a lot. And by a lot, i mean, i couldn't get through a 6-round magazine without a jam, FTE, etc

I carried one of these things for a long time, and it's still in the glove box of my truck.

Google "P3AT fluff and buff" for some info on helping the reliability of these things. I had those problems til I read about this fluff and buff thing.
I performed most of what's in that procedure and the gun was very reliable afterwards. 100 rounds of Blazer and 50 of my CorBon carry ammo without any problems and I decided it was good to go.

Probably shot it 100 rounds since then and it's always worked fine. Just hurts like the dickens.

My father in law passed away and I inherited a Colt Mustang so I've taken to that for tiny carry but the KelTec was always good for me.

97guns
October 31, 2011, 11:54 PM
i have a p32 that was never right from the getgo, very first trip out the slide locked and it had to go back to keltec. i got it back and it was still choking so i threw it in the safe. it sat there for a good 10 years untill i brought it out last week, gave it a break free treatment and ran 100 rounds of fiocchi jhp and fmj without a hiccup. i dont know if its the fiocchi ammo, the break free treatment or a 200 round break in period but it seems to be running good now. a few more sessions and id feel comforatble carrying it.

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