45/70 crimp


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jack44
October 31, 2011, 07:23 PM
The seating depth is good 2.532.5 it cycles in my rifle! but how the crimp look?.

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Hay Creek
October 31, 2011, 07:29 PM
It's a bit out of focus to tell.

Ridgerunner665
October 31, 2011, 07:33 PM
I agree its a bit out of focus...but from what I can see it needs a bit more crimp.

What bullet is that?

solvability
October 31, 2011, 07:38 PM
If it is going in a Lever gun I would put a bit more.

rcmodel
October 31, 2011, 07:46 PM
I can't see the photo well enough to tell anything.

But I can't see a cannulure on the bullet, which leads me to think it might be seated too deep, leaving no place to put a roll crimp in it.

rc

jack44
October 31, 2011, 07:48 PM
It's a Hornady 300gr hp - I'l try to get a better pic.

jack44
October 31, 2011, 08:04 PM
I have a crappy camara! hope this pic is better

Ridgerunner665
October 31, 2011, 08:10 PM
Your seating depth is perfect...but you need more crimp, roll em in there.

jack44
October 31, 2011, 08:16 PM
Thanks! I'l keep trying with these dies tonight if I cant get more crimp I'l call redding tomorrow.

Ridgerunner665
October 31, 2011, 08:19 PM
Seat and crimp in separate operations...works better for me that way.

Ridgerunner665
October 31, 2011, 08:21 PM
The simplest solution is the Lee Factory crimp die...I use plain old RCBS dies. (but I'm shooting cast bullets)

flashhole
October 31, 2011, 08:22 PM
If you are going for a roll crimp you could leave a tiny bit more crimp groove showing and yes, you need more crimp. I use a Redding taper crimp die when I load 45-70 for my Guide Gun. It works great and is simple to adjust to the crimp I want.

Michael R.
October 31, 2011, 08:25 PM
seating depth is correct but you need a little more crimp

jack44
October 31, 2011, 08:52 PM
I think I will buy a separate crimp die - I have the seating depth set and locked in.

Thanks alot for all the infomation.

CSA 357
October 31, 2011, 08:55 PM
what type action you shooting these in? single shots need no crimp

beatledog7
October 31, 2011, 11:01 PM
I use RCBS dies for 45-70, and I seat and crimp in separate steps. I agree, a bit more crimp.

jack44
November 1, 2011, 06:03 AM
what type action you shooting these in? single shots need no crimp
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ArchAngelCD
November 3, 2011, 01:42 AM
I think I will buy a separate crimp die - I have the seating depth set and locked in.

An additional die is unnecessary if you want to avoid the cost. You can make 1 "dummy round" without a primer and powder so that you can reset the seating die any time you wish. You can make one up for every bullet you load and then you can duplicate your results in the future.

jack44
November 3, 2011, 08:34 AM
Its no big deal Arch Angel- Midway was having a sale on the Lee crimp die.

ArchAngelCD
November 4, 2011, 01:14 AM
Its no big deal Arch Angel- Midway was having a sale on the Lee crimp die.
I like the Lee FCD so I can't argue with you there...

Action_Can_Do
November 4, 2011, 03:32 PM
Are you using Hornady brass that was formerly loaded with FTX bullets? If that's the case, the brass is shorter than standard and it can cause crimping issues with all dies.

jack44
November 4, 2011, 03:59 PM
starline bress Action just got the lee FD crimp is good

Mac Attack
November 4, 2011, 04:01 PM
I don't put a crimp on my 45-70. I however load mine with blackpowder over a 405 gr hardcast bullet. I basically compress my powder with a veggie wad on top and then only need to push my bullet in till it touches. Accuracy is good out of my reproduction Sharps. I wonder if more crimp could help with my accuracy.

jack44
November 4, 2011, 04:38 PM
here the crimp with Lee die

johnjohn
November 6, 2011, 06:51 PM
As I see it that's about right.

Walkalong
November 6, 2011, 07:15 PM
It is seated a hair deep. You want to roll the case mouth into the deepest part (middle) of the cannelure.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5908595&postcount=34

jack44
November 6, 2011, 10:17 PM
Ok thanks - just have to adjust the seating depth alittle then.

Walkalong
November 7, 2011, 07:44 AM
Some cannelures are very poor. They are flat and hardly indented. With those it hardly matters where we crimp into them.

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