Wisconsin CCW permits

Just downloaded the permit for ccw and I find out that I don't have a training cert that meets the requirements. I have 3 NRA safety and 1 instructor card and LFI 1. but none of them have all the info needed. :fire:
From the application.
A certificate or affidavit documenting that the applicant has successfully completed a firearms safety or training course must include all of the following: 1) the applicant’s name; 2) the name of the firearms safety or training course; 3) the length in hours of the firearms safety or train-ing course; 4) the date on which the applicant completed the firearms safety or training course; 5) the city and state where the applicant completed the firearms safety or training course; 6) the name, address, and telephone number of the person or entity responsible for the firearms safety or training course. This may be an individual instructor, a national or state organization, a law enforcement agency, an educational institution, a firearms training school, or another public or private institution or organization; 7) The name of the instructor who taught the firearms safety or training course to the applicant and the name of the agency or organization that certified the instructor: 8) A signed statement by the instructor who taught the firearms safety or training course to the applicant affirming that the course satisfied the definition of a firearms safety or training course in s. Jus 17.03(8) and that the applicant successfully completed the course. An affirmation that the applicant merely attended the course is not sufficient to satisfy this requirement

Well I knew there would be a lot of red tape for you WI boys but at least you're making progress :D

Whats really stupid I am qualified to teach the class but not apply for a permit.

Gee, my DD214 was sufficient...

I passed through Wisconsin today carrying on a permit from a neighboring state. I truly hope you get your application straightened out. I thank all those who spent their time and energy getting that bill passed in your fine state.

It does seem ironic that with your qualifications you do not satisfy the requirements needed for a permit.

You don't have a Wis Hunter Safety certificate?


**Any one of the proof of training documents listed in #1-#5 are sufficient. For example, a person who submits a DNR hunter education certificate is not required to submit documentation of #2-#5.

News said today that 150 applications had been submitted. 120 had already been approved and 90 have been printed and are ready to be mailed.

Nothing is perfect in the beginning.
A little patience and a lot of persistence will prevail.
You are overcoming some huge momentum and resistance, and you are doing so in fine fashion.
Don't lose hope, keep on presing forward.

You are dragging your state into the 20th century...and then the 21st. And then, sometime later, you will drag your southern neighbor likewise.

And then I will consider moving back to WI or IL for retirement. :)

^^^Good to hear they're wasting no time. Put mine in the mail today, wonder how long it's gonna take.

I mailed my application today too. I heard the already processed numbers on the news today and was amazed that they're moving that quickly. I'd expected the background check to be the bottleneck, but I guess not.

It'll be great to have the option to legally carry again. :)

I mailed mine this morning too. I was at my local post office 5 minutes before they opened and there were about 10 folks in line waiting to mail there's as well! I thought I was getting a jump on things by mailing it early, but with the volume of people who are applying I'll be surprised if my permit shows up before the end of the year.

I dropped mine off at the Madison East Post office before the 11:30 pickup time because that's where the post office box is located.

I was a little surprised that they accepted applications in person after I already dropped mine off:fire: The people who dropped theirs off were the first 100 or so.

I received my permit in the mail today!

Whats really stupid I am qualified to teach the class but not apply for a permit.

Can the name of the instructor and the name of the student be the same on the certificate? :D Might be an interesting class to watch.

JAK67492... WTMJ Radio 620 is reporting on their web page that a Republican-controlled legislative committee has voted to do away with the 4 hour training requirement.

Rep. Scott Suder (R) said that the legislature's intent all along was for the applicant to determine what kind of and how much training he/she would require.

Van Hollen wasn't happy ... but that's over!

Also reported that 900 permits have been issued as of today (and mine had better be in the mail or I want to know the reason ... LOL):cuss:

You never took hunters safety?

From the WI DOJ website:



Training Requirements
Act 35 requires applicants to provide proof of firearms safety training. Any one of the below listed documents will be accepted as proof of meeting the law’s training requirement:
1. The hunter education program established under s. 29.591 or a substantially similar program that is established by another state, country, or province and that is recognized by the department of natural resources. (Note: you can obtain a duplicate Wisconsin hunter education certificate instantly online)

2. An unrevoked concealed carry license from another state or jurisdiction. You must enclose the affirmation form DJ-LE-289 verifying it is not revoked for cause. The license may be current or expired.

3. Proof of military, law enforcement, or security firearms training.
Former military: DD214 or DD256 form showing either “honorable” or “general under honorable conditions” discharge or release from the US military.
Active military: Certificate of completion of basic training with service record of successful completion of small arms training.
Law enforcement: Certification letter from the Wisconsin Law Enforcement Standards Board or Law Enforcement Standards Board Transcript of Recruit Course Completion from Wisconsin or another state.
Security: Department of Safety and Professional Services Firearms Certification of Proficiency or similar course in another state.
4. Department of Justice Firearm Safety Course certificate (issued by DOJ-certified instructors).

5. Firearms safety or training certificate from a course taught by a national or state organization that certifies firearms instructors, or by an instructor certified by a national or state organization that certifies firearms instructors, or to the public by a law enforcement agency. If you participate in one of these courses, attach a copy of the certificate or affidavit from that course containing the following information:

Applicant’s name
Name of the firearms safety or training course.
Length of the firearms safety or training course (Minimum is 4 hours).
Date on which the applicant completed the firearms safety or training course
The city and state in which the applicant completed the firearms safety or training course
The name, address, and telephone number of the person or entity responsible for the firearms safety or training course (may be an individual instructor, national or state organization, law enforcement agency, educational institution, firearms training school, or another public or private institution or organization)
The name of the instructor who taught the firearms safety or training course and the name of the agency or organization that certified the instructor if different than above.
A signed statement by the instructor who taught the course affirming that the course satisfied the definition of a firearms safety or training course in s. JUS 17.03(8) and that the applicant successfully completed the course
**Any one of the proof of training documents listed in #1-#5 are sufficient. For example, a person who submits a DNR hunter education certificate is not required to submit documentation of #2-#5.

Just got this a second ago.

Earlier today, the Joint Committee for the Review of Administrative Rules (JCRAR) voted in a 7 to 2 bi-partisan effort to address and eliminate portions of the emergency rules promulgated by the Department of Justice (DOJ) to implement Wisconsin Act 35 , the new concealed carry law. The Committee's action focused on several portions of the emergency rules offered by Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen’s DOJ that exceeded his statutory authority and ignored clear legislative intent.

One of the most important actions involved the Legislature eliminating many of the onerous requirements associated with the information that must be provided on a license applicant's training certificate (no training certificates issued anywhere in the country met the DOJ criteria prior to the announcement of the emergency rules). Another involved the elimination of the requirement that all training classes be a minimum of four hours. This is an issue the Legislature debated during the process that culminated in the passage of the new law and it is clear that it never intended for the DOJ to impose any specific curriculum or length of training class requirements.

Good find rduchateau2954!

I sure wish they would offer reciprocity with Indiana. They do so for many others but not Indiana...so far. Sometimes I wish Indiana made ours just a little bit more stringent so that we'd pick up some extra reciprocity.

Gander Mountain offers the Utah CCW class every month. I assume Wisconsin would accept that.

As bearcreek suggested, just train yourself! :evil:

I dropped mine off at the Madison East Post office before the 11:30 pickup time because that's where the post office box is located.

I was a little surprised that they accepted applications in person after I already dropped mine off:fire: The people who dropped theirs off were the first 100 or so.
My check just cleared...any day now

My permit just came in the mail today....9 days after mailing it in. For Wisconsin bureaucracy, and the large number of applications they surely received, that's not bad.

So, now I'm legal. :)

I just mailed my application in the other day, patiently waiting for it to return. Glad to hear things are moving fairly quickly.

My check cleared a couple of days ago so, today maybe???

To you guys who have yours already is it safe to assume you're putting them to good work? I have a Walmart in my area that's just dying for a ceremonious walk!

I took mine for a walk threw Gander Mountain and Cabela's.

Sent my application in on the 1st and my license arrived the other day. Now if I take off the weekend (unless they're working on Saturday and Sunday) and a day for mail each way, that's 6 working days and I'm under #1600.

Thanks for the prompt handling of my application and I hope the same follows for my fellow citizens. Hang in there!!!

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp

Recent up to date changes to WI CCW Department of Justice FAQ listed.

As of now the 4 hour qual. has been suspended.
You still need one of thefollowing:
DD-214 military discharge if prior military.
The hunter safety issued by a state or approved trainer.
Proof of prior law enforcement training.
A license from another state.
Did I miss anything?
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Foon WI DOJ

UPDATE 11/09/2011

On 11/7/11, The Joint Committee For The Review of Administrative Rules (JCRAR) suspended portions of the emergency rules affecting the training requirements for concealed carry licenses. Proof of training is still required to apply for a license. The changes include:

Elimination of any time requirement for the firearms safety and training course
Elimination of the word test from the definition of firearms safety and training course
Elimination of any time requirement for firearms instructor training
Elimination of the instructor’s signature from the certificate affirming they taught the course to the student
Elimination of any instructor contact information on the certificate
Elimination of the location where the training was provided from the certificate
Any application submitted prior to these changes will be processed in accordance with these revisions. If your application has been returned as a result of any of the above training issues, or because you did not have an out-of-state affirmation form; please resubmit the application with all necessary forms and the fee to the CIB Firearms Unit, PO Box 2718, Madison, WI 53701-2718, for reprocessing.

A friend of mine mailed his in on th 1st and received his ccw on the 6th. Mailed mine the morning of the 1st also, from the same post office, no permit yet and the check hasn't cleared either so it seems to be luck if the draw on processing times.

I mailed mine on the second.
Still waiting... Impatiently!

I walked threw Target as well as Costco today, does that count?

Finally got mine in today, license number in the 2800's. As others have said, bravo to Wisconsin government bureaucracy for a change, good snappy work!

I walked threw Target as well as Costco today, does that count?

Any big box store will count.

THR had a fad some time back where people, upon receiving their CCW permits, would take a ceremonious walk through a local Walmart. While the reasons behind this have long since faded into distant history, my assumption was that if any of us are going to have to use our concealed weapons, it'd probably be at a Walmart.:p

After work tomorrow I'm gonna take my snubbie on a well deserved trip to the new Gun World Gander Mountain store that just opened in Germantown, which will probably be the largest overpriced gun store in America!:barf:

Said by 737Driver: A friend of mine mailed his in on th 1st and received his ccw on the 6th. Mailed mine the morning of the 1st also, from the same post office, no permit yet and the check hasn't cleared either so it seems to be luck if the draw on processing times.

I actually think it's how long the check takes to clear. I got my mine today. Check cleared 11/10, license was issued 11/10. License number is in the 3600 range. Nasser posting above got his today as well, and his license number is in the 2800 range. If your bank is slow clearing the check, that could be the delay.

Finally got mine in today, license number in the 2800's. As others have said, bravo to Wisconsin government bureaucracy for a change, good snappy work!



Any big box store will count.

THR had a fad some time back where people, upon receiving their CCW permits, would take a ceremonious walk through a local Walmart. While the reasons behind this have long since faded into distant history, my assumption was that if any of us are going to have to use our concealed weapons, it'd probably be at a Walmart.:p

After work tomorrow I'm gonna take my snubbie on a well deserved trip to the new Gun World Gander Mountain store that just opened in Germantown, which will probably be the largest overpriced gun store in America!:barf:

I stopped at Gun World. Your right about the prices. I had to do a double take when I saw a Glock 27 for $699! My big reason for going is I wanted to try on a 5.11 holster shirt.

I actually think it's how long the check takes to clear. I got my mine today. Check cleared 11/10, license was issued 11/10. License number is in the 3600 range. Nasser posting above got his today as well, and his license number is in the 2800 range. If your bank is slow clearing the check, that could be the delay.

My number is under 300, and my check didn't clear until 4 days after I received my license. Not sure what that means.......

Not sure if I should be POed or happy about the new rule change. They took all the restrictions off the training docs the day after I paid to take another course. At least now I have my qualifications for a Min permit. Either way both apps went in today.

damn, all Wisconsin needs now is a hockey team and they'll be all set!

Got it!

# in the 4600's issued on 11/11/11.