Why not buy one of the older XD models?


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BridgeTooFar
November 1, 2011, 04:02 PM
My LGS has an XD45 "on clearance" because they're (apparently) trying to get rid of their inventory of the non (m) XD pistols. I have owned an XD9. I liked it and had exactly zero trouble with it (but sold it to finance other projects). I'm looking to get a .45 cal. pistol right now that is not a 1911 or a Glock (personally, I don't like them - nothing wrong with them, just personal preference), and this seems to fit the bill.

So, my question is this, why not get the "regular" XD (and not the (m) version)?

And no, I don't mean "well, a Glock is better because..." I mean, are there any real consistent problems people have seen with this pistol (specifically in .45) that I need to be leery of.

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Canuck-IL
November 1, 2011, 04:07 PM
Apparently they don't load lead bullets ... jacketed only. The M will reliably chamber lead per numerous posts. Other than that, if it fits your hand without the xdM's changeable backstraps, no reason not to get it.
/Bryan

FREERANGETIME!
November 1, 2011, 04:34 PM
I have had 2 XD .45s and an XDM .45, never had a problem with any of them, but I never tried to load lead bullets into them either. Its also worth knowing that the XD and XDM in .45 use the same mag.

FIVETWOSEVEN
November 1, 2011, 04:40 PM
I have an XD-40 that I'm wearing now, I love mine and trust my life to it.

Japle
November 1, 2011, 04:43 PM
No lead bullets in an XD? I haven't heard that one before.

I don't normally use lead in my .45s, but last week I had a bunch of 230 gr lead RN loads to shoot up and two XD45 mags that I'd just installed +3 floorplates on. The lead worked just fine. They fed perfectly.

Does anyone have a link to a description of XD/lead problems?

Dnaltrop
November 1, 2011, 04:53 PM
Didn't know the first series was polygonal barreled....

If it's not, you should be able to shoot all you want.

If it does have Polygonal, you can buy a new traditionally rifled barrel and you wont have a problem... OR you can maintain a strict cleaning regimen, and shoot the lead anyhow.

The problem is the tight seal that you get leaves more lead behind, leading to a possible overpressure explosion if left to build up.

You could also instead spend your money on the .357 sig barrel (.40 mags feed .357 just fine) or the 9mm barrel and the mags for easy caliber swaps and stick to jacketed rounds instead of worrying about lead. Unless you cast and reload?

Edit- Tired... read but spaced the .45 reqs, no idea if the barrel/caliber swaps go that far, but still, if the price is right, you'll be fine.

Mike J
November 1, 2011, 05:22 PM
I don't have any experience with the XD-45 but I have read it posted that they wont feed single wad cutters. I have an XD-40 that I've had since 2007. It is accurate & reliable. I would see no reason not to buy an XD-45 unless there is something else you'd rather have.

CZ57
November 1, 2011, 05:26 PM
There is only one type of cast bullet that you should avoid and that's the SWC. The XDm has a feature that allows their use that the XD soesn't have. Any round nose or truncated or round nose flat point will work fine. Missouri Bullet has a 200 gr. RNFP that is marketed at the XD and it is a great bullet. I have the XDm in .45 ACP and I shoot SWCs just fine. Other than that and the interchangeable backstraps and different barrel lengths the XD is a great pistol. ;)

BridgeTooFar
November 1, 2011, 06:25 PM
Thanks for the tips, folks. I don't use any non-jacketed bullets, so the no-lead won't be a problem for me. My intended purpose is as a nightstand gun, so not having the "super accuracy" of the XDm won't be a real problem for me. In terms of shooting the thing, presuming it handles and feels like the XD9 I had, it'll do just fine.

Probably going to take the plunge tomorrow.

Thanks again.

Edit: I also just saw this http://www.springfieldpromo.com/ from Springfield. Looks like they're shipping out 3 new mags and a mag pouch free with the purchase of any new XD or XDm between Sept. 1, 2011 and Nov. 30, 2011. Just thought it might benefit some of y'all.

msparks
November 1, 2011, 07:54 PM
So, my question is this, why not get the "regular" XD (and not the (m) version)?


Ya, why not get the XD regular. I have one and love it. It's an xd45c. it shoots great and is a great gun.

Jim Watson
November 1, 2011, 08:00 PM
not having the "super accuracy" of the XDm won't be a real problem for me

Oh, good.
Because the bit about "match grade barrels" is just advertising, it doesn't promise "match WINNING grade barrels."

Canuck-IL
November 1, 2011, 08:23 PM
My bad (#2 above) - I should have specified SWCs are the issue in XDs ... that's all I shoot in 45 so ... kind of forgot about other buller designs.
/B

miles1
November 1, 2011, 09:32 PM
Ive had a XD45 for about a month and have put about 250 rounds so far thru it with no problem.I think i might be a recovering glockaholic:neener:

2wheels
November 1, 2011, 09:36 PM
The XDms are just the cool new kids on the block, nothing wrong with the "old" XDs. I sold my XD40-SC, but if I decided to buy another fantastic plastic pistol it would probably be another XD and not an XDm, they're usually cheaper anyways.

fxstchewy
November 1, 2011, 09:37 PM
I like my XD45 service, you can shoot lead just probably not lead SWC. but i don't shoot them anyway.

KenW.
November 1, 2011, 09:50 PM
I just got my fourth XD. Haven't even tried lead bullets.

trex1310
November 1, 2011, 10:59 PM
I have both .45's and I definitely like the XD45 over the XD(m).

orionengnr
November 1, 2011, 11:47 PM
There is only one type of cast bullet that you should avoid and that's the SWC. The XDm has a feature that allows their use that the XD soesn't have.
Do tell. :rolleyes:

InkEd
November 2, 2011, 08:07 PM
Buy it.

J_McLeod
November 2, 2011, 08:54 PM
I bought my first XD in 04 and liked it so much I bought another last week. They are great pistols by themselves. The XDm had some improvements, but I really don't see any reason not to buy an original mode.

shooter1
November 2, 2011, 09:25 PM
The original is the HS 2000. They sold in the <$300 range. Springfield started importing them relabeled as the XD at near double the price. It seems they have done it again with the "M" models. Little significant change in the actual product with a significant price increase. A good marketing campaign creates demand. If I were buying an XD today, I wouldn't pay extra for the "M".
str1

edit: I should add: The XDs I've seen had no problem feeding SWC profile ammo, including the infamous 185gr MSWC.

corpsmanup!
November 2, 2011, 09:27 PM
I have four of the regular XD45s. I don't have tiny hands so it fits perfectly. Don't need a "match" bbl. In a duty gun- it works every time with everything I feed it.

IlikeSA
November 2, 2011, 09:28 PM
I am one who prefers the XD to the XDm series. I have an XD9 and bought an XD40, and I guess after using the 9 so long, I became used to the grip. The 45 felt too large, and the XDm felt foreign.

Skribs
November 2, 2011, 10:07 PM
XDm doesn't require a trigger pull to disassemble. Simpler and safer IMO.

railroader
November 3, 2011, 01:04 AM
The original is the HS 2000. They sold in the <$300 range. Springfield started importing them relabeled as the XD at near double the price. It seems they have done it again with the "M" models. Little significant change in the actual product with a significant price increase. A good marketing campaign creates demand. If I were buying an XD today, I wouldn't pay extra for the "M".
str1

edit: I should add: The XDs I've seen had no problem feeding SWC profile ammo, including the infamous 185gr MSWC.
I just bought the xd9 package in the last month new for $399 with the holster, mag loader, mag pouch and 2 mags. Springfield is also sending me 3 more mags for free as part of a promotion. I use to have an hs2000 that was $300. The problem was the company importing them was going under and all they had was used parts for warranty work. It's better now that springfield is importing them.

thefamcnaj
November 3, 2011, 01:45 AM
I've owned both the xd and xd(m). in 45acp. I sold the xdm and currently have the xd 45 and its not going any where. I also own an xdsc 9mm. I love both of the pistols. Theres nothing you need to know or be leery of when thinking of the xd .45. The xdm's big selling points are the match grade parts and melonite in the finish. The regular xd 45 has always had the melonite finish. As far as the "match grade parts", its no big deal. The xdm is no more accurate than the regular xd. You can buy the xd over the xdm and save between 100-175 dollars. The money saved can buy a holster or ammo.
I'll be buying more xd's in the future and feel fine with it. I don't dis like the xdm or anything, and if I found a good deal on a good used one I'd probly pick it up.
But as far as new prices compare between the xd and xdm I just don't see the differense

Kiln
November 3, 2011, 02:25 AM
Google Springfield XD 20,000 round torture test. End of story. The service model is excellent and will last a lifetime.

shooter1
November 3, 2011, 07:17 AM
railroader,
Quite a promotion on the xd9 package, good buy!
When the HS 2000 became available in my area they sold for around $260. Last time I looked, the XD pistols were selling for close to $500. Wonder if they're going to continue to offer the XD or replace it with the M model.
str1

shooter1
November 3, 2011, 07:31 AM
XDm doesn't require a trigger pull to disassemble. Simpler and safer IMO.
It's only safer if you fail to clear the weapon prior to disassembly. Can't believe they can convince anyone that such a feature is safer! Ah the power of advertising--------.
str1

saenzrich
November 3, 2011, 04:53 PM
It's only safer if you fail to clear the weapon prior to disassembly.

Thank you.....

fxstchewy
November 3, 2011, 06:16 PM
When i takedown any semi i first drop the mag, and then triple check the chamber, then and only then do i pull the trigger, and then its pointing in a safe direction.

Ledgehammer
November 3, 2011, 08:00 PM
It seems like Springfield is kind of milking the "M" thing like apple and the iPhone 4 and 4s. It's not different enough for me to buy one yet. I like my regular XD's just fine.

Taurus_9mm
November 3, 2011, 10:06 PM
I had a regular XD .45 which was a great pistol with zero problems. If I were to buy another it would be a regular XD and not an XDm due primarily to the latter being a bit more expensive.

Valkman
November 4, 2011, 12:37 AM
I have 2 XD-45's, both 4" and one a Compact. Believe me, you don't give up anything in accuracy in these. They are fine, dependable guns. Go for it!

emc
November 10, 2011, 01:33 PM
With apologies to Ken W., I have 5 1/2 XDs. The 1/2 is the .357 Sig barrel that I bought to go with the .40 cal models that I have. Great ergonomics, easy takedown, and the slightly smaller grips that the XDs have over the XDMs just fit my hands better. I'll go on to say that my full size XD9 is the most accurate 9mm I've ever fired, let alone owned.

FWIW,

emc

trex1310
November 10, 2011, 02:18 PM
There is only one type of cast bullet that you should avoid and that's the SWC. The XDm has a feature that allows their use that the XD soesn't have. Any round nose or truncated or round nose flat point will work fine

Just out of curiosity, what exactly is the feature on the XDm?

Gunfighter
November 10, 2011, 02:23 PM
I own the xd tactical 45 and have had abslutely no problems with it. Only difference i see in xd and xd [m] is price an ergonomics. With the [m] being a bit pricier and more ergonomical with its deep slide serations and more ergonomic grip. My xd has a grip sleeve on it which i much perfer much over the xd [m] grip. Ive only shot jacketed bullets but its been 100% percent reliable. I would not consider the fact that you have to pull the trigger in the xd to dissasemble it when i was buying one. This is no problem whenyou remove magazine and clear chamber. Unless you dont trust yourself or something.

dallascj
November 11, 2011, 05:48 AM
Apparently they don't load lead bullets ... jacketed only. The M will reliably chamber lead per numerous posts. Other than that, if it fits your hand without the xdM's changeable backstraps, no reason not to get it.
/Bryan
I had an xD45 Tactical and shot lead bullets with no issues. I also had a regular xD9. To me, I just didn't shoot either one of these as accurately as my Glocks so I sold them. That was just a personal issue. I like the grip, the look of the gun, and they were comfortable to shoot. I was not good with them. As a side note, I tried holding an xDm last week at my LGS and didn't care for it. I opted for an M&P instead, and love it.

BridgeTooFar
November 11, 2011, 10:48 AM
Keep forgetting to reply to this. Got the XD45 the other day. Nothing special, shoots well so far (just a quick "test drive" at the place where I bought it). Thanks for all the input, guys.

CZ57
November 11, 2011, 02:34 PM
Just out of curiosity, what exactly is the feature on the XDm?

The XDm has a "hump" on the center rail at the breechface that the XD does not. ;)

BridgeTooFar
November 12, 2011, 11:28 AM
One more thing - the "get 3 free magazines" promotion - says that after confirmation, to give 8-12 weeks for delivery. I submitted my request the day I got the pistol; I got my confirmation on Monday (11/7). I received my magazines via FedEx today (11/12). Just outstanding. Couldn't be more pleased with that sort of service.

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