Steel frame semi-autos?


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Eric's Big Head
November 3, 2011, 08:15 PM
How many different ALL STEEL pistols are out there in the mainstream current market? No 1911's please.

I was looking into Sigs and noticed a few of their models have stainless steel frames, but nothing that is plain Jane. The 2nd Gen Sig p226 had a stainless steel frame without the rail. BEAUTIFUL, but hard to come by.

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kurt1305
November 3, 2011, 08:16 PM
Cz 75b

eerw
November 3, 2011, 08:18 PM
CZ has a whole line up

75B ( 75BD)
75B SA
SP01 ( std, tactical 9 and 40, Shadow)
75 Shadow
Compact
97B ( 97BD)

The Lone Haranguer
November 3, 2011, 08:19 PM
The CZ75 and Browning Hi-Power came first to mind. While not in current production, Smith & Wesson "old-school" metal-frame pistols, many of which are all stainless steel, are abundant on the used market.

crazysccrmd
November 3, 2011, 08:20 PM
Browning Hi-Power

sigarms228
November 3, 2011, 08:42 PM
You can still get a plain Jane stainless steel frame P226 from Top Gun Supply. It is not a regular catalog item but made for the California I understand.

Thinking of picking up one myself.

http://www.topgunsupply.com/sig-sauer-p226r-stainless-9mm-siglite-night-sights-da-sa-all-stainless.html

Lucky Derby
November 3, 2011, 09:12 PM
CZ, Hi Power, P38, Stainless Sigs,

jmr40
November 3, 2011, 09:13 PM
If you can find one of the S&W 5906 guns used they are probably the best of the steel framed 9mm's

Mr.Blue
November 3, 2011, 09:44 PM
Since I bought my first CZ, an SP-01, I have not bought another brand of pistol. 5 straight CZ's. The 75 platform is sublime, not to mention reasonably priced. I prefer steel over polymer so I was a perfect match with CZ.

BHPshooter
November 3, 2011, 10:46 PM
CZ, Hi Power, P38, Stainless Sigs,

If you decide to look at the Walther P38, make sure it is actually a steel-framed P38, and not the alloy-framed P1, which is what is currently flooding the market quite cheaply and abundantly.

I assume the OP is wondering about guns that are currently in production. Honestly, there aren't many anymore, especially when ruling out 1911s. There the Browning Hi Power, the Kahr K-series, Sig's P-series, some CZs, Walther PPK and PPK/s, and only one or two metal-frame S&W autos... that's all that comes to mind.

Wes

Hossfly68
November 3, 2011, 10:52 PM
EAA Witness...... They call it a clone of the CZ, but I like it more.

Bozwell
November 4, 2011, 12:35 AM
I'll agree with the CZ recommendation. Absolutely fantastic pistols and I'm a huge fan of their steel guns. Tanfoglio's are very nice too but the problem there is you have to deal with EAA support instead of CZ support. I've heard lots of stories about mediocre at best support from EAA. On the other hand, CZ and the CZ custom shop have been 110% in my experience. If something goes wrong with the gun down the road, I'll take CZ support any day of the week.

priler
November 4, 2011, 01:39 PM
besides the ones already mentioned,here's a few more.

magnum research baby desert eagle,different sizes and cal..
armscor map1.
CAI arcus 98 and 94
kahr has several models.
armalite ar-24,4 models.


there's also many out of production like h&k p7 models,s&w had many,beretta has some that are expensive and collectible like steel 1 and billenium,star had a whole bunch and so many more.

Zerodefect
November 4, 2011, 01:57 PM
Don't forget the HK P7 and PSP's.
Kahr K9, and Mk9.







Did someone say 1911?

Sonic82
November 4, 2011, 02:41 PM
Both non-current, but two of the best steel pistols ever made. Beretta Steel 1 and Billennium.

BossHogg
November 4, 2011, 03:41 PM
Beretta, C-Z and about any 3 gen. S&W. Steel are my favorite guns for the range, just to dang-blasted heavy for carry. I guess I'm getting old.

I really like the 3 gen. S&W's some really fine guns and seem to be everywhere on the market right now.

MidwestRookie
November 4, 2011, 04:23 PM
Beretta doesn't make any current production guns with a steel frame..

Well, technically you can still order a Steel I model from Beretta Australia, but its close to $3500 and doubtful you can get one shipped here. I'd take a Steel I over two of anything mentioned in the thread so far without blinking..

txgunsuscg
November 4, 2011, 11:47 PM
I highly recommend the CZ. Be careful with CZ clones, I had an Armalite AR-24 and I'll never touch that brand again...

scythefwd
November 5, 2011, 12:11 AM
Baretta 92? How'd that get skipped? Some CZ are not steel but alloy frames (2075 BD for example).

Not a lot left for those of us who prefer blued steel.

Hossfly68
November 5, 2011, 12:31 AM
Tanfoglio (ie-Witness) problems are over reported from the research I've done. Never had so much as a burp from mine. Fires anything I feed it. It's a .45 though, with the older square slide and not the rounded one in 10mm or .40 which is where most of the problems were reported.

I like the CZ's but I'm not real familiar with them. The safety on the Witness functions no matter which position the hammer is in. Is the CZ like that?

Just had a thought... What about a Springfield P9 (isn't that the Springfield Tanfoglio?)
Aren't they all metal?

scythefwd
November 5, 2011, 12:37 AM
Hoss, my cz's safety only works in the cocked position, but I can't speak for the tanfoglio designs.

Hossfly68
November 5, 2011, 01:26 AM
Thought that's how they were but the only ones I've ever held were decocker models. Thanks!

chicharrones
November 5, 2011, 01:51 AM
Baretta 92? How'd that get skipped? Some CZ are not steel but alloy frames (2075 BD for example).

The only 92s I've run across have alloy frames. Were they steel in the early versions? :confused:

Sonic82
November 5, 2011, 08:19 AM
You are correct chicharrones, the 92FS is alloy. As mentioned earlier the Beretta Steel 1 was a limited production ,all steel version.

BossHogg
November 5, 2011, 12:46 PM
Just my 2 cents, but when I think of steel, I lump steel and alloy together.
As there are no complete alloy guns.

Non steel guns are plastic/polymer or as I say PP's.

roaddog28
November 5, 2011, 01:31 PM
Other than a Sig 226, Browning Hi power 9mm, and a rare all steel Beretta 92F I would look for a S&W 3rd generation pistol. I have one and its reliable, accurate and durable. If you look around there are a lot of police trade in examples like the 5906. They are usually available for around $350 to $400.
Good luck,
Howard

trex1310
November 6, 2011, 01:24 AM
Stoeger Cougar 8000's. All steel and a good price. Great shooters and
they come with 4 mags.

TonyT
November 6, 2011, 05:52 PM
CZ-75's, S&W945, S&W 952 come to mind.

The Lone Haranguer
November 6, 2011, 06:05 PM
There is a CZ75 semi-clone, Israeli-made and imported by Magnum Research, called the "Baby Eagle."

labhound
November 7, 2011, 02:23 AM
Stoeger Cougars have an aluminum alloy frame, not steel.

4v50 Gary
November 7, 2011, 02:41 AM
Browning HP
CZ-75 (yes, the early models were steel too)
some 1911s
some S&W
HK P7
Baby Desert Eagle (CZ clone)

Morgo
November 7, 2011, 03:09 AM
I haven't seen the SIg P210 mentioned yet

mgmorden
November 7, 2011, 09:55 PM
If you want you can actually get steel frames (and most other aftermarket parts) for a Glock:

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=24303/Product/ALL-METAL-FRAMES-for-GLOCK-reg-

:)

I kinda wonder why nobody makes an all-steel striker fired 9mm. Some people want the consistent trigger pull for a striker fired gun, but the weight of steel to absorb more recoil. I know, I know, "Get a single-action", but some shooting sport categories don't allow SA's :).

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