Searching for a .45ACP


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FMF Doc
November 3, 2011, 10:26 PM
I am in the market for a new pistol. Something generally considered "full-" or "service" sized. I want it to be in .45ACP. Steel vs Plastic is not much of an issue. I have tried but can not use any of the .45ACP glocks. The double stack even in the SF version is too large, ad the 36 just felt "Wrong." I like everything about the Sig P220 except the price. I just can't afford it. I like the Ruger P345 except for the manual safety. Same for the M&P45. I know they come without the thumb safety, but in 5 months of looking, I have not found one. Is there anything out there I missed, something I should be looking at. This will be a winter carry/ truck/ HD duty gun.

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james_bond
November 3, 2011, 10:32 PM
Make sure you at least take a look st the Springfield XD-45 it is a fantastic pistol I have had mine for many years.

HOOfan_1
November 3, 2011, 10:33 PM
FNP 45, Stoeger Cougar 45(edit Stoeger has a safety)

CZ 97 is a little cheaper than the SIG (edit I think the BD version is decocker only)

bds
November 3, 2011, 10:41 PM
For a bargain 1911 that shoots accurate, I highly recommend RIA Tactical ($432 at Bud's) - http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/876/products_id/411539799

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/51431.jpg

lono
November 3, 2011, 10:44 PM
Anything 1911. :D

sigarms228
November 3, 2011, 11:11 PM
Get a SIG P220 CPO - Certified Pre Owned with one year SIG Factory warranty. I bought two myself, a P226 and a P229 and they both have been fantastic. SIG goes through them and their gunsmiths will replace any needed parts which usually is all the springs for good meausre and the roll pins. Mine both looked as new inside and out and that is what many report.

Summit Gun Broker has some right now for $585 - German P220 no less!! You can check you local gun stores also asking them if they have any CPO P220s.

That way you will not have to settle for anything less than what you really want. The P220 is a superb pistol as you already have discovered.

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/220_CPO.html

WNC Seabee
November 3, 2011, 11:33 PM
Scare up an SW4566 or 4506!

BushyGuy
November 3, 2011, 11:41 PM
SR1911 is the way to go , Cost and reliability :cool:

Mr.Blue
November 3, 2011, 11:58 PM
If you have smaller hands the Springfield XD 45 is a great choice. The grip is very manageable. It also has the same grip angle as the 1911. I have many .45's, but I use the XD as my nightstand gun.

The 1911 is also great, but more money for a quality one.

While I like my CZ 97BD and FNP 45 USG, they are probably too big for you. The grips are pretty meaty.

justice06rr
November 4, 2011, 05:14 AM
FYI you can remove the thumb safeties on M&P pistols, including the M&P45.

for that matter, I recommend the M&P45 or XD45.

Quoheleth
November 4, 2011, 05:17 AM
How about a Sig 250? DAO, no safey.

PabloJ
November 4, 2011, 06:29 AM
Anything 1911. :D
Why bother with outdated pile of ore when one can have Glock Perfection in what else but fine .45GAP aka HEAVYBRO of 9x18 Makarov. Oh yeh life is grand!:p

PabloJ
November 4, 2011, 06:30 AM
For a bargain 1911 that shoots accurate, I highly recommend RIA Tactical ($432 at Bud's) - http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/876/products_id/411539799

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/51431.jpg

That expired when Germans came out with DA Walther PPK.

miles1
November 4, 2011, 07:24 AM
Make sure you at least take a look st the Springfield XD-45 it is a fantastic pistol I have had mine for many years.
+1. The springfield XD45 acp is very nice to handle and shoots great.

tuj
November 4, 2011, 08:18 AM
If you do 1911's, consider the STI Spartan. Mine has been great, reliable and accurate.

jmr40
November 4, 2011, 08:29 AM
Anything 1911.

A well made 1911 is an excellent choice, but the vast majority being made today are junk. They are being put together by companies who know the average shooter won't go through 1,000 rounds in a lifetime and just want something to look at and be able to say "I have a 1911". If you choose a 1911, don't waste your money on the budget guns. Get a good one.

I like the Glock. If you don't, I also like the FN. It is a big gun, but with the smallest backstrap it is quite a bit smaller through the grip than the Glock. The FN has a safety, as does the Ruger or M&P which are also good choices. I'd learn to live with the safety.

bakerloo
November 4, 2011, 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by james_bond
Make sure you at least take a look st the Springfield XD-45 it is a fantastic pistol I have had mine for many years.

+1. The springfield XD45 acp is very nice to handle and shoots great.

Now it's +2...I love my XD45

Chindo18Z
November 4, 2011, 11:42 AM
2nd Quoheleth's suggestion of the SIG 250:


http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/catalog/product/P250-FS-N-detail-L.jpg

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p250-full-size.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_P250_DCc

No safety lever.

Around $400 - $425 new.

chuckles
November 4, 2011, 11:47 AM
H&K 45 either the C or full-size. The LEM trigger is a great system and their reliability, quality and accuracy are unequalled. The M&P is a good choice too. :cool:

Jeb21
November 4, 2011, 12:42 PM
A certified pre owned Sig 220 or a Smith 4506 is great, but the Smith is heavy for concealed carry.

CZ57
November 4, 2011, 08:22 PM
SA XDm! Interchangeable back-straps should allow you to find the one that fits your hand. ;)

GojuBrian
November 4, 2011, 08:27 PM
Xd45 or xdm45.

Sonic82
November 4, 2011, 08:32 PM
What CZ57 and GojuBrian said. I like my 9mm XDM.

kowenjr
November 4, 2011, 08:40 PM
I have a lot of different .45s. Love my M&P 45C. It has no safety. Best fit in my hand than any i have owned. 100% reliable. Shoots like a dream.

rcjohnson
November 4, 2011, 08:52 PM
CZ 97 BD You missed that.

Sauer Grapes
November 4, 2011, 08:55 PM
Scare up an SW4566 or 4506!
+1 on the 3rd gen S&W 45's. Next best thing to a 1911.

iron horse
November 6, 2011, 07:38 PM
Based on your requirements (full size and no manual safety) a new or used Sig P220 or P220 Carry. Good Luck.

Dogguy
November 8, 2011, 09:01 AM
SIG P220 is a classic with lots of choices in configurations these days--including various cosmetic options. Kind of pricey but well worth it if you like the design. I also like the Ruger P345. Like the OP, I'm no fan of the safety/decocker but I've learned to just use it as a decocker and never use the safety. The only other issue with the P345 has been the poorly designed magazine safety that has a history of causing the gun to malfunction if you dry fire it without a mag in place. The parts are easy to remove, however.

PabloJ
November 8, 2011, 09:27 AM
Scare up an SW4566 or 4506!
Yes. Affordable, reliable and fit small & medium hands well. Compact versions with alloy
frames make particularly good carry guns.

PabloJ
November 8, 2011, 09:30 AM
For a bargain 1911 that shoots accurate, I highly recommend RIA Tactical ($432 at Bud's) - http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/876/products_id/411539799

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/51431.jpg
He said winter carry gun not just range gun. Why do you recommend military design that was intended to be carried with empty chamber in flap holster?

DAdams
November 8, 2011, 10:44 AM
Kahr CW or P45. Single stack. PM45 for something smaller.
Go to the Kahr Forum for experiences.

I'm thinking S&W 45c myself.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_51/products_id/52707
$371 for the CW45. Very tempting.

dacotah
November 8, 2011, 10:59 AM
A well made 1911 is an excellent choice, but the vast majority being made today are junk. They are being put together by companies who know the average shooter won't go through 1,000 rounds in a lifetime and just want something to look at and be able to say "I have a 1911". If you choose a 1911, don't waste your money on the budget guns. Get a good one.

I recommend the 1911 as well. I regularly carry a Springfield Champion -- with a 4" barrel and being a single-stack with slim grips, it conceals easy and carries great. I know my Springfield's have been very reliable.

The Lone Haranguer
November 8, 2011, 12:55 PM
Smith & Wesson M&P or one of their Third Generation, "old-school" stainless steel pistols (4506, 4566, etc.) An earlier verson was the 645. The M&P has an option of a manual safety; Third-Gens do have one on the slide, but you need not carry it engaged, just use the lever(s) as a decocker and push it back up.

Striker Fired
November 8, 2011, 01:17 PM
I'd prefer a XDM 45, now also available is compact,I also like a 4 inch 1911(it would have to be gone through to smoothen things out).

huskybiker
November 9, 2011, 01:12 PM
Taurus PT-945. It even fits in some P220 holsters. I love this gun. It's more accurate than I am, and goes boom EVERY time I pull the trigger. 8+1 capacity. Can be carried in "Condition 1" or chambered and decocked for a DA first shot. Bud's has them NIB for under $400.00.

Master Blaster
November 9, 2011, 10:04 PM
HK USP compact 45, Cocked and locked or DA/ SA. Glock 30 are both good choices if you don't want a good 1911 or a SIG P220.

SouthernBoy
November 9, 2011, 10:41 PM
I bought a new M&P45 with the 4" barrel and standard size frame two weeks ago. I had the Apex DCAEK kit installed but as soon as I got it home and dry fired it some, I replaced the heavier Apex trigger spring with the factory OEM spring to get a 4 1/4 pound trigger. The Apex kit includes their hard sear which reduces over travel and returns an amazingly crisp break for this pistol. It also includes the Apex USB which completely removes the infamous M&P gritty/sandy trigger pre-travel.

This is the best .45 I have ever shot for carry and SD use. Great gun. Give this one some serious consideration.

wildcatter109
November 10, 2011, 03:02 AM
There are all kinds of wanta be pistols out there, but they all are trying to be one thing. The most reliable, accurate, and safe to use self defense weapon available. One has for over 100 years, and trusted and issued by the single largest most advanced military in the world!! ;)

Yep the 1911 all steel single stack and lets face it if you need all 9 rounds, you either need more practice or more help one or the other! You won't regret it, proven superior to all others, probably why more find it worth customizing mare than any other pistol in history!!http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu266/saumbi/_MG_5000.jpg

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