.45 ACP Long Gun


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Waitone
January 28, 2003, 12:24 PM
I like the .45 ACP cartridge. Lots of fun, easy to see in a brass bucket, easy to check powder level when reloading.

Anyhow, I'm looking for a .45 ACP shoulder fired gun, be it carbine or rifle. Not interested in the conversion kits. I want a dedicated shoulder fired weapon. Thompson is too pricey.

Marlin formerly made a Camp 45 carbine which I understand has been discontinued. Cruising the auction sites I find very few for sale. I see mags and stocks for sale but no projectile launcher.

Any ideas out there? Does anyone have a good friend as Marlin's president? I'd be willing to purchase 2 if they ran production. The weapon was either a pig that literally no one purchased or it was too difficult to mfg but became a classic.

Help!!!!

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dude
January 28, 2003, 12:49 PM
There are very few on the market because the demand for a non tactical .45ACP is quite low. HK is have some sucess but you're gonna pay alot.

The Marlin Camp .45 was not a real sucess and if the demand was there Ruger would have made a .45 version of their PC-9.............I don't remember ever seeing one.

Assuming the width demensions are the same.......any good gunsmith should be able to convert a .45 Long Colt lever carbine for you. It would hold alot of rounds!

GW45
January 28, 2003, 02:02 PM
HK makes a USC-45 - it runs about $1200 - it's nice but pricey...

I also talked to Hi-Point (I know the handguns are literal bricks), they have a 9mm Carbine, and they told me this year they will be releasing a .45 ACP Carbine - no word on when or what it will look like though - just was told this year.

We sell quite a few of the 9mm Carbine at the gun department, no one has had any problem with them with either function or accuracy. Been told they are quite accurate actually.

So if you can wait - see what the Hi-Point .45 Carbine will look like and see if you like it.

mrstang01
January 28, 2003, 02:22 PM
Keep an eye out, I got a Camp Carbine from an amigo of mine who had it set up with a red dot, he liked it, but wanted to get into something else, and I wanted out of it, and into a Camp Carbine, since my primary carry is a 1911.

Super little gun, but it does need a plastic stock to be: "tactical"

Michael

dude
January 28, 2003, 03:22 PM
by 'tactical' I was reffering to full auto/ less than 16" barrel sub-gun.........like an MP-5 .45

G. Glock
January 28, 2003, 04:59 PM
Hey, what is this USC-45? I've never heared of on of them there things.

If something is really well made and functional, I don' t mind paying a little more, or maybe even a lot more if it's very nice.

What's it look like?

GW45
January 28, 2003, 05:05 PM
http://home.worldonline.dk/n3mesis/uscstats.html

Is a good pic and some accessories.

Like I said it runs between $1250 and $1300 - it is nice and very reliable......

Matt G
January 28, 2003, 05:07 PM
http://www.savvysurvivor.com/supplementary/_derived/x_submachinegun.htm_txt_ump_l.gif

Archie
January 28, 2003, 05:40 PM
a Marlin lever gun in 45 ACP.
16.5 inch barrel, straight grip, express sights.

But it would be a very specific piece. Not as much power as a 44 Magnun, probably less than a .357 Mag. It's only reason for being would be a companion piece to a 45 pistol or revolver.

Economically, never happen.

cratz2
January 28, 2003, 09:52 PM
Well, I hate it when some replies to a question with another option but factory 45ACP ammo isn't going to benefit much from the added barrel length. If I wasn't trying to get a carbine in the same caliber as my favorite handguns, I'd probably just get a 9mm carbine. Super cheap to shoot FMJ at paper and at consistantly high velocities, the best hollow-point should prove to be very effective on man-sized targets if need be.

Schuey2002
January 28, 2003, 10:07 PM
HK makes a USC-45 - it runs about $1200 - it's nice but pricey...
If you look around the internet you can find them in the $900-$1000 range.

Kahr carrier
January 28, 2003, 11:20 PM
That UMP looks sweet.:)

Schuey2002
January 29, 2003, 12:46 AM
Kahr carrier, you forgot one of these.... " :what: " ..

Just helping you out. :D

Sven
January 29, 2003, 02:31 AM
A market for Glock?

Navy joe
January 29, 2003, 05:39 AM
Isn't Kel-tec kicking the Sub-2000 out in .45 now? I know it's out in .40 short & wimpy, local shop had several for about a day before they were bought.

dude
January 29, 2003, 05:47 AM
"Not as much power as a 44 Magnun, "

.............not quite sure what that is Archie, but way less than a .44 Magnum!!

GW45
January 29, 2003, 08:50 AM
Sub-2000 isn't out in .45 yet.

I wish it was though - that would be nice, could use the Glock or Para double stack mags.......:D

Will Fennell
January 29, 2003, 09:48 AM
The new BERETTA carbine, the Cx4 STORM will be avialible in 9mm,.40cal, and .45acp[!]. It will use standard BERETTA pistol mags......so we are told, so I assume that means COUGAR mags for the .45.

http://www.berettausa.com/feature_products/images/cx4storm.jpg

http://www.berettausa.com/feature_products/images/cx4storm2.gif

:cool:

Waitone
January 29, 2003, 10:42 AM
I am sick unto death of all the "tactical" bravo-sierra (sorry Skunk). Just gimme a .45 ACP carbine on a traditional wooden stock. I love simplicity and functionality. I don't like paying for fads and fashions. Besides, all that molded plastic is expensive.

Chris Rhines
January 29, 2003, 11:39 AM
Would a Delisle Carbine be up your alley?

http://www.valkyriearms.com/images/delisle.jpg

A suppressed .45ACP based on the Enfield 2A action? Takes 1911 magazines, too. Neat, huh?

- Chris

Riphalman
January 29, 2003, 06:16 PM
Hey, Chris....that may be the most interesting Enfield I've seen. Where'd you find it?

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
January 29, 2003, 07:15 PM
I knew a guy in East Texas, Jim Barr with Kickapoo Gun Shop, who made a really, really nice suppressed Marlin Camp Carbine for the East Texas Drug Task Force. Got to see him shoot it when I was there one day. Very nice little thumper. It was exceptionally quiet with FMJ's and thwacked the target butt
mightily. I should have gone ahead and bought one that day.

Regards,
Rabbit.

ranger7
January 30, 2003, 12:15 AM
I was at a gun show in Lebanon, PA this past weekend and saw a Marlin Camp Carbine in 45 ACP. It was N.I.B. and was selling for about $350. I was tempted but really didn't have the available cash.

I have also heard rumors of a Hi-Point carbine in 45 for more than a year now, but I'd prefer a Kel Tec Sub-2000 in 45 than either the Marlin or the Hi-Point. Don't think Kel Tec will make a .45 this year but there's still hope Hi-Point will announce one at the Shot Show in a few weeks.

Alan

natedog
January 30, 2003, 12:55 AM
there's an add in the shotgun news for suppressed .45 AR-15 uppers....

cratz2
January 30, 2003, 03:15 AM
Being a fan of the Enfield rifles, the 45 ACP and thinking that supressed rifles are really cool in general, that DeLisle is certainly right up my alley.

bernie
January 30, 2003, 09:09 PM
Has enyone ever thought about making FAKE DeLisle carbines that anyone could own. You could make it look the same without having a real can. Also, with Enfields everywhere, it seems doable. Anyone want to chime in?

John G
March 27, 2003, 01:50 AM
Sounds like a geat idea to me. Why not? There's already plenty of fake Enfields out there. Is there anything illegal about a rilfe that "looks supressed?"

Matt G
March 27, 2003, 06:58 AM
Shouldn't be any problem with it. You'd have to have custom barrels cut, though. New extractors, new mag wells... It'd run a pretty penny to fix up a $140 rifle.

Someone turned a Reising SMG in to our P.D. in a bag of parts. Having only seen a couple and never even touched one before, it was an adventure for me that night to assemble the whole thing and get it running by morning, along with answering my calls. My chief, a good man but unfortunately misguided, registered it to the P.D. as LEO. Sigh. It had been papered for legal, free trade before. Another fun gun off the market. And in our little semi-rural community, it'll NEVER come out of the gun cabinet. :(

At least I got a few dozen rounds of .45 acp though it. (perfect functioning, and about NRA 90%. )

Bobarino
March 27, 2003, 03:57 PM
i got a chance to rent an HK USC .45ACP at a local range a while ago. it was a lot of fun to shoot and quite accurate. the sights are well above the bore line though, so at close ranges the POI changes just a tad. it has two different rear sights that you can flip back and forth from u-groove to ghost ring/peep sight. it has provisions for mounting scopes, red dots etc. the only downside to the gun is that you can only get 10 rounds mags for it. the bolt on it is very loud. you hear a loud "CLINK-CLINK" with every round from the bolt slamming back and forth. it has an AR-15 type bolt release on the side along with the traditional cocking lever on the front upper left of the forearm. and of course its very cool to get to do the "HK Slap". the ambi safety it not in a very good position though. it hits the top of your shooting hand and is kind of uncomfortable. but the best part is of course that, ITS AN H&K! and those are just plain cool.

Bobby

cabinetman
March 27, 2003, 04:12 PM
Check this out:

http://www.featherusa.com/

My brother has one and he loves it. I personally thing that asking a .45acp to do all that work is hard but his seems to work just fine. And, since it's a pistol round, he can shoot it at any indoor range.

Rome

John G
April 2, 2003, 09:01 PM
Here's a great link for modified Enfields: Armalon (http://www.armalon.com/pc.shtml)

They offer rifles in 9mm, .38 Super, .40S&W, 10mm and .45Acp. Magnum calibers available are 357 and .44 Mag, as well as .41Mag and .50AE for special orders. Good looking stuff.

http://www.armalon.com/images/3pcs_lres.jpg

ambidextrous1
April 2, 2003, 09:13 PM
Mech Tech makes a "Carbine Conversion Unit" for the 1911. It's a
barrel, bolt and stock that receives your 1911 frame, secured by your slide stop lever. The barrel is quite good, claimed to be match quality, and a picatinny rail is attached to the forestock. I use a red dot sight on mine and it's super accurate out to 75 yards. The CCU (without red dot) is a bit more than $300, and a lot of fun to shoot.

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