One night my girlfriend...soon to be my wife...was spending the night with me. There had been some attempts by some dude to break into my apartment while I was out of town and she was a little skittish. We were fast asleep, when someone pounded on the bedroom window and BANG BANG!!! two really loud firecrackers. She jumps out of bed screaming "GET YOUR GUN! GET YOUR GUN!" I jumped up in my whitey tightys and grabbed a Bersa .380 two tone. (I did not know it was fireworks yet) and start making towards the other room with her in tow. She screwed her face up staring at my gun with this look of "you're kidding right?" and yells, "NO NOT THAT ONE THE OTHER ONE...THATS A PUSSY GUN!!!" Well right away I froze, if it didn't scare her how was it gonna scare a real life armed bad guy. I had a Magnum GP100 that I used as a duty gun when working armored in the closet, so I grabbed that and while loading it with both of us cringing in the closet we noticed that quite a few minutes passed and came out. Upon investigation I discoved the spent fireworks.
She slapped me on the arm when I came back in looking slightly mad, then started laughing, "What did you think you we're gonna do with that little thing?" she said almost in tears laughing. I felt as if my very...um..."manhood" had been ridiculed and got mad. But the next day I sold the thing and bought a .45 Stainless Taurus 945. She was much happier.
As a side note, my girlfriend HATES shooting guns, to her, they are noisy, smelly and heavy and kick hard. So if she laughed at it.....:uhoh:
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Balog
January 30, 2004, 09:44 PM
People who laugh at the thought of getting shot by any gun are probably not the brightest bulbs in the drawer. I guess we'll just chalk that up to ignorance.
orangeninja
January 30, 2004, 09:53 PM
but criminals are usually not well informed individuals.
tc300mag1
January 30, 2004, 09:54 PM
Nope never had that problem
denfoote
January 30, 2004, 10:01 PM
No, in fact, the only time I have ever drawn a gun in self defense, it was Pistolet Makarova in .380ACP. What I got from the BG was "Don't shoot me!! Don't shoot me!!"... as he ran away!! The cops found him cowering in a neighbors yard!! :D
Three time loser for house breakins (that was what he was trying to do when he encountered my little Soviet friend). He went down for a LOOOOOOONG time!! :evil:
I feel that I did my good deed for society that day!!! :D
Point is: Just displaying a firearm in the appropriate circumstances will "solve the problem" most of the time!!
Caliber does not seem to matter!! :cool:
Bopleo
January 30, 2004, 10:05 PM
Is she even in to guns?
What the hell does she know about guns, except what she's seen on TV
c_yeager
January 30, 2004, 10:07 PM
Conclusive proof that size DOES matter.. :uhoh:
orangeninja
January 30, 2004, 10:22 PM
no she isn't.
Yeah size matters....I'm a real breast man and I'm here to tell you...size matters.
Beren
January 30, 2004, 10:30 PM
At the risk of behavior unbecoming of a moderator, I must ask: does she have a sister? :)
Anyway, I wouldn't want to be shot by a BB gun, t'be honest. I tell myself I won't draw on someone unless I am fully prepared to shoot until they stop whatever it was that forced me to draw on them.
Delmar
January 30, 2004, 10:41 PM
Beren-you really need to put the computer down, get out of the house and socialize. Its amazing what you'll see these days. Womens smokin and drinkin and playin cards and gamblin.............:D
P95Carry
January 30, 2004, 11:02 PM
My Bersa has gone to sulk ..... in the furthest corner of the safe ... it is mortally upset!!:p It is tho trying to make up with the 1911 .. maybe it hopes for some breeding lessons so as to progenerate a new generation that is bigger.:D
Delmar
January 30, 2004, 11:04 PM
I hear silicone grips are all the rage these days:neener:
gbelleh
January 30, 2004, 11:44 PM
A Bersa .380 is certainly not a P**** gun if it's aimed or fired at you.
Feanaro
January 31, 2004, 12:10 AM
I would not want to insult your lady's intellect but anyone who thinks that a loaded weapon is a "pussy gun" is certainly not going to win any Nobel Prizes. :)
PCRCCW
January 31, 2004, 12:29 AM
Id have to see what she'd have to say if you bought a little WHIMPY K40 Kahr and let her shoot it.....its a similar size to your Bersa.
She may rethink any comments after this one.
Size doesnt matters a hell of alot if you dont know how to use it properly :D
Shoot well...........
Delmar
January 31, 2004, 12:32 AM
One thing you might do is load it up with the fastest expanding bullet you can find, take her out in the country some place, and splatter a head sized melon with it. It might drive some of the unknowing out of her.
Intune
January 31, 2004, 12:33 AM
Or she knew the difference between a .380 and a .357 mag. She may be wiser than some give her credit for. :D Size (and speed) matters! At least, apparently, to some women. I'm gonna leave it right there.
treeprof
January 31, 2004, 12:44 AM
I jumped up in my whitey tightys
"What did you think you we're gonna do with that little thing?"
Boxers won't cure a caliber problem, but they make for good concealment.
Baba Louie
January 31, 2004, 01:07 AM
alduro,
LMAO
Sounds like you're in the market for a new S&W 500 :D She'd be hard pressed to say...
"NO NOT THAT ONE THE OTHER ONE...THATS A PUSSY GUN!!!"
I'm biting my lip to keep from saying whats on my mind here, but it would do well with the rhyme "This is my rifle, this is my..."
I would have kept the Bersa just so I could tell that story to my friends, kids and grandkids. And of course its new nickname from that day forward would have to be "P.G."
Feanaro
January 31, 2004, 01:13 AM
Or she knew the difference between a .380 and a .357 mag. She may be wiser than some give her credit for.
And the time it can take to get the big shootzen magnumen could cost you your life. :p
Intune
January 31, 2004, 01:21 AM
Not when SHE'S loading the magnum pooper and I'm holding the 007 special caliber! :cool:
lycanthrope
January 31, 2004, 01:35 AM
Dizzaam. She knows enough to see the .380 isn't the best self defense caliber.
Do us a favor and buy a youth model 870 in 20 gauge that she can shoot later and feel like it's ...um.....adequate diameter for the job.
Feanaro
January 31, 2004, 02:45 AM
Not when SHE'S loading the magnum pooper and I'm holding the 007 special caliber!
Ah, now we're talkin'. :D
But the situation Alduro was in required speed and a .380 in hand is better than a half loaded .357 covered in your blood.
Mikul
January 31, 2004, 04:16 AM
I remember reading a report of a police shooting. The officer and his partner responded to a domestic disturbance. The woman is there by herself claiming that her boyfriend took off. They search the place and as they enter the bedroom the boyfriend is pointing a gun at the lead officer. I still remember his words:
"...when he pulled a big revolver and I'm thinking to myself 'Oh my God, it's a .44 magnum' "
When it was all over, and the officer saw the gun laying on the ground, he saw that it was a .22 LR revolver.
All guns look big when they're pointed at you.
My big fear, because I'm such a gun afficianado, is that if some fruitloop points a gun at me, I'm going to say, "Hey, is that the new Glock 37? Is it really smaller than the 21?"
c_yeager
January 31, 2004, 06:17 AM
I challenge ANYONE to tell the difference between a .380 and any other pistol in the ".38cal" family from the muzzle end. I cant see the several thousands of an inch difference in diameter of the bore.
OEF_VET
January 31, 2004, 09:11 AM
So, I guess a Kel-Tec is out of the question, huh?
You could have turned towards her and said: "Well, it's a heck of a lot bigger than the gun you're holding! Wait, you're not holding one. So, what the heck are you griping about?"
Of course, that kind of a reply wouldn't exactly make for a warm bed afterwards. But heck, who wants to cozy up with someone who just insulted the size of your 'gun' anyways?
Frank
Iggy
January 31, 2004, 09:27 AM
I can tell you that if you are on the business end of a pistol it looks like a tunnel..
About 30 years ago,I answered a shooting call.. Guy in a Greyhound had killed two people as they stepped on the bus..
I was the only one on duty, no back up available.. I stepped over the bodies and onto the bus and into the muzzle of a snub nosed 38 about 3 feet from my face.
I know because the muzzle was so big I could read 38 special etched in cursive writing on the end of the the bullet in the barrel and it was 3AM
:what:
A young Marine who had been awakened by the gunfire jumped the guy from behind before he could fire again or I would have #3 on the pile of bodies on the ground beside the bus.
So Poosy gun or not, they all look big pointed at you!!
:D
TarpleyG
January 31, 2004, 09:39 AM
First of all, your choice of underwear is despicable :D and secondly, ask your girlfriend if she would be willing to run downrange about 30 feet and let you shoot her with that .380. Thought so...
GT
Marko Kloos
January 31, 2004, 10:01 AM
Since I'd only ever draw in a situation that would require me to pull the trigger right away to prevent my own death, the person on the other end of the muzzle would have very little time to laugh.
El Tejon
January 31, 2004, 10:18 AM
Yes, and got the driving finger. Cannot say I recommend this.:uhoh:
CZ-100
January 31, 2004, 01:29 PM
I thought the story was funny :D
one-shot-one
January 31, 2004, 01:52 PM
i'm with Marko Kloos,
if the person i have had to point my "small" pistol/revo at
has time to laugh then i need more pratice on my draw-fire time.
:eek:
OF
January 31, 2004, 02:14 PM
But the next day I sold the thing and bought a .45 Stainless Taurus 945.I love a happy ending.
- Gabe
Dr.Rob
January 31, 2004, 06:14 PM
No. But one time I thought I needed my piece, the only one readily available was a 7 shot 380. I wanted a full auto BAR and the cavalry.
I mostly retired the .380 from nightstand duty in favor of a .357/9mm/45.
The thing is I've killed an animal with that .380, have confidence in its use and it's never jammed on me. It's no longer my first choice.
Standing Wolf
January 31, 2004, 07:53 PM
The last time I drew a gun for prospective non-target purposes, the firearm was a Colt Detective Special .38 caliber revolver. I didn't point it at the next door neighbor's attempted burglar. I wouldn't have shot him. I wouldn't even have put a warning round in the ground, because I'd already dialled 911. I just strolled over to the fence, firearm in hand, and cleared my throat.
The attempted burglar took off like a rocket-powered jack rabbit. I hadn't laughed so hard in years.
The police showed up, lights flashing and sirens blaring, half an hour later. The attempted burglar was probably already four counties away by then.
Shawn Dodson
February 1, 2004, 12:08 PM
Laughed at? Never.
Taunted by gang-members when I've aimed shotguns and ARs at them during felony stops? You bet!
Kodiak AK
February 1, 2004, 02:30 PM
I know because the muzzle was so big I could read 38 special etched in cursive writing on the end of the the bullet in the barrel and it was 3AM
:scrutiny:
Talk about premium ammo.;)
Kodiak AK
February 1, 2004, 02:47 PM
And to answear the thread question . No I haven't , but I have been the laugher.
Long story short I was 17 , just broke up with my girlfriend 5 min before and was "discussing" the situation with the reason we broke up . Between a stomach full of liqud courage and a heart full of ache the debate became quite heated and took a turn for the worse when I gave him the pimp hand like the little b**** he was.He jumped back up and pulled out some little dinky jamomatic. I am not sure what kind it was . I just laughed at him before I told him "You have one shot and you better make it count before I grab it and beat you to death with it ."He looked at me for a second and realised I had the mind set to kill him right there , right now.He didn't have the mind set to kill me so he backed away and left.The people watching this thought I was nuts and I got thru the rest of high school with out even a second glance from any of the "tough" kids , but on hindsite it was NOT the brightest thing in the world to do .
Sean Smith
February 1, 2004, 03:17 PM
I wouldn't count on intimidation value, but there is nothing wrong with it, either. And after all, for a home defense gun there is really no reason to use what amounts to a pocket pistol when you don't need to conceal it anyway.
Bill Hook
February 1, 2004, 03:49 PM
Ask her if she'd mind you shooting her with it, then? :rolleyes:
Shootcraps
February 1, 2004, 04:31 PM
Time for a new girlfriend. One that likes guns.
Moparmike
February 1, 2004, 08:58 PM
Yes. That is when I pulled out my 155mm Howitzer from my Galco at 4 o'clock and leveled it at his chest, and let him have it. He ceased laughing.:evil:
RandyB
February 2, 2004, 05:14 PM
All I can say is that my wife has never laughed at the size of my gun.
Well....at least not to my face.:uhoh:
Penforhire
February 2, 2004, 06:04 PM
Seems to me the business end of a .22 looks plenty large on the receiving end. If someone pointed one at me I'd be inclined to listen to the person holding it.
tex_n_cal
February 3, 2004, 03:24 AM
One guy I knew in college, who was a few years older, was staying at a motel and had just stepped out of the shower when he heard someone lifting the hubcaps off his Cadillac parked just outside. Angry, as he'd been similarly robbed a few weeks beforehand, he raced to his bag, pulled a .41 mag Ruger, threw the room door open, and saw the thief get into another car. He yelled at the guy "You better stop that damn car!"
The car's driver just said, "Excuse me?" and calmly drove away with the hubcaps. The Caddy's owner realized at that moment he was standing naked holding the Ruger.
I guess this means your intimidation factor drops when you are unclothed, regardless of the size of your revolver.:evil:
Shootcraps
February 3, 2004, 04:08 AM
I guess neither of his guns impressed the bad guys. ;)
MMcCall
February 3, 2004, 05:47 AM
I guess neither of his guns impressed the bad guys. ;)
They saw he didn't have the balls to fire :D
Kodiak AK
February 3, 2004, 07:12 AM
Ar15.com humor .
Ha.:o
djsjd
February 3, 2004, 11:01 PM
by Kodiak AK:
"You have one shot and you better make it count before I grab it and beat you to death with it ."He looked at me for a second and realised I had the mind set to kill him right there
Beware the power of a pissed off woman!
On another note, I've been laughed at. Once.
I was testing my latest incarnation of spud gun, when one rather primed bystander bust out in laughter. Something or another about how it couldn't be done. Well, after launching one of Idaho's finest into the next county with a 4' ball of flame belching outta' the business end, Doofas became a believer.
Nick96
February 4, 2004, 12:23 AM
Not to cause any friction between you and your future wife - but are you sure she didn't set you up for this?
Quote: She jumps out of bed screaming "GET YOUR GUN! GET YOUR GUN!" then yells, "NO NOT THAT ONE THE OTHER ONE...THATS A PUSSY GUN!!!" Followed by "What did you think you we're gonna do with that little thing?" she said almost in tears laughing.
1. You best figure out who's going to wear the pants in this family.
2. Never admit you've made a wrong decision regarding such macho matters.
3. Call her bluff. Forget the budget priced Taurus. This is a great excuse for getting yourself a Kimber, Colt, HK or some other high end "shoot'n iron".
So endeth the lesson.
45R
February 4, 2004, 01:27 AM
I dont care if its a .380 or a .22, if she was at the business end of your .380 she wouldnt be calling it a P!$$Y gun.
This may be the perfect reason to get her involved in learning how to use the firearms that you keep around the house incase you not home.....yada yada yada....
Glad that whole thing worked out well.
Balog
February 4, 2004, 01:36 AM
Seriously tho, if yer woman thinks like that it shows you've done a rather poor job of educatin' her bout guns.
Dorian
February 4, 2004, 02:48 AM
"NO NOT THAT ONE THE OTHER ONE...THATS A PUSSY GUN!!!"
LOL!!!!!! LOL!!!! HAHAHAHA Thanks for the story! :D
hahahah
orangeninja
February 4, 2004, 06:59 PM
To all concerned...you're welcom...the story was meant to draw a smile or two. Now to answer the questions....
"1. You best figure out who's going to wear the pants in this family."
Nobody was wearing pants....thats the beauty of sleeping with WOMEN!!!
In fact I prefer neither of us wearing pants...haha...
2." Never admit you've made a wrong decision regarding such macho matters."
What can I say...when you've seen my magnum....a .380 just won't be that impressive...hahaha
3." Call her bluff. Forget the budget priced Taurus. This is a great excuse for getting yourself a Kimber, Colt, HK or some other high end "shoot'n iron"
You're darn right....I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT!!! I can't believe I never thought of it. Live and learn...thank you master Yoda.:D
Moparmike
February 4, 2004, 07:56 PM
Get a .500S&W mag. Lets see her call that any names...:p
Stevie-Ray
February 4, 2004, 10:58 PM
One night about 12:30, I heard muffled voices between my house and the neighbor's. As I was straining to hear, the wife asked, "Do you hear voices?" That was it, grab a gun, (happened to be my Mark IV pin shooter) and investigate. Looking around the porch I spied 3 very wide-eyed kids, about 17 years old. Then it hit me and I said, "Anthony, is that you?" (the kid next door) He said "Yeah Steve." Evidently the kids were talking to him through his bedroom window. "Sorry fellas," I said as I turned to go back into the house. I heard one of them say, "That's ok mister, I gotta go change my pants now."
TamThompson
February 5, 2004, 10:39 AM
You might tell her that more civilians have been killed by .22's than by any other caliber. You don't have to tell her it's because a) there are MORE .22's out there than any other caliber and b) most beginners start with a .22, so there are a lot of them in unskilled hands.
Rich357
February 5, 2004, 05:28 PM
Per the handgun classes I've taken, if someone has broken into your house it is not a good idea looking for them. You will be at a disadvantage. The BG may well hear you, sit in wait, and pop you as you walk by. If there is more than one BG even more reason not to go looking for them. You are better off setting up a defence in your bedroom and waiting for the BG to walk through your door. It may not seem like the manly thing to do, but it puts the odds more in your favor.
Rich
Country Boy
February 5, 2004, 05:50 PM
It's not the size of the bullet that counts, but how you pull the trigger...
Moparmike
February 5, 2004, 10:59 PM
Per the handgun classes I've taken, if someone has broken into your house it is not a good idea looking for them. You will be at a disadvantage. The BG may well hear you, sit in wait, and pop you as you walk by. If there is more than one BG even more reason not to go looking for them. You are better off setting up a defence in your bedroom and waiting for the BG to walk through your door. It may not seem like the manly thing to do, but it puts the odds more in your favor.Normally I would agree with this assessment, but what if you have others in your house? Children, elderly, the unarmed?
Rich357
February 5, 2004, 11:27 PM
Moparmike
"Normally I would agree with this assessment, but what if you have others in your house? Children, elderly, the unarmed?"
Then you have a plan to gather together the children, elderly and the unarmed into a room with you. Or, you all get out of the house.
To go in search of a BG and not be sure of where your kids are can be a big problem, putting you at an even bigger disadvantage against a BG. And, you certainly don't want to accidently shoot one of your kids.
I'm sure others more knowledgable than I am on this topic can give you a better answer.
Rich
orangeninja
February 6, 2004, 02:08 AM
Home searches are dangerous.....period. Searching a house properly takes 2 people a long time and for one person what seems eternity. 1 person would really struggle at searching a house and cannot afford the slightest foul up. You do have to remember however, most bad guys are not tactical....many would be shocked to be confronted by an armed home owner, but it isn't worth the risk. Get a safe room or set up a plan for your spouse "barricade" themselves in or back you up and you barricade yourself with the kids. Call the police before anything and try to think in sections. For instance, if you have a second floor that is small enough....get your spouse to cover the stairs while you sweep the rest of the house. Upon being clear, cover the stairs from behind cover. Make the funnel work for you.
If you are not 90 percent sure no body is upstairs, and you have no compelling reason other than your stuff to leave the safe room...ie. kids....then lock yourself in with a gun and dust anything that comes through the door. But try to make doorways, lighting, stairs and familiar territory work for you. Tactics win fights....not fancy guns.
Rock
February 10, 2004, 07:35 AM
She knows a mouse gun when she sees one.
JoeWang
February 10, 2004, 09:11 PM
I've just recently heard the "advice" is to hide in your bedroom, barricaded and armed.
What if the intruders decide to do a little fire-setting to destroy the evidence of their entry? Seems if you were barricaded in there'd be no time after the smoke started billowing under the door. Especially if you were on the second floor.
I'm also not entirely sure the police would be more interested in the people breaking in than my home defense stash. My father-in-law had 12 shotguns, some valuable, "get lost" from police custody after his murder, with the advice, "forget about it" to the family when they inquired about them to the police.
P95Carry
February 10, 2004, 10:22 PM
My father-in-law had 12 shotguns, some valuable, "get lost" from police custody after his murder, with the advice, "forget about it" to the family when they inquired about them to the police. Joe ... sorry to hear that .. it stinks about every which way you look at it.:(
orangeninja
February 10, 2004, 11:11 PM
Joe...I would ask for the phone number to the internal affairs office. If no resolution comes by way of that go to the State Certification Board. In Texas this is the TCLEOSE council itself. If nothing there, a complaint to the Department of Justice would be in order, since this would be a conspiracy to commit a felony by a law enforcement officer...this would deffinantly be in their jurisdiction. By the way..."forget about it" won't work on the Federal Investigators...they usually have no sense of humor about this. I might be able to drum up some contacts for you if you email me privately.
alduro@mailcity.com
Also...back to the origional posting of the thread...my girl forced me to go out and get her a "silver" pistol for my P01 since she recently discovered I wanted to trade it. Guess what she picked? A stainless steel Sig 232 in .380....you know....the "pussy gun". :scrutiny:
Anyways...it looks a lot bigger in her hand than mine....now thats logic.:confused:
45R
February 10, 2004, 11:25 PM
you know....the "pussy gun".
Its not a pussy gun if it has Sig on it :) Well at least she has some good taste in firearms. Now take her out and teach her how to shoot it well!
P95Carry
February 10, 2004, 11:42 PM
Anyways...it looks a lot bigger in her hand than mine.... Just the way it should be alduro .... just the way it should be!! ;) :p :D
Rich357
February 11, 2004, 05:31 AM
JoeWang:
"What if the intruders decide to do a little fire-setting to destroy the evidence of their entry? Seems if you were barricaded in there'd be no time after the smoke started billowing under the door. Especially if you were on the second floor."
"I'm also not entirely sure the police would be more interested in the people breaking in than my home defense stash. My father-in-law had 12 shotguns, some valuable, "get lost" from police custody after his murder, with the advice, "forget about it" to the family when they inquired about them to the police."
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Joe, when it comes to things like BGs starting fires, you have to have a plan and be flexable. It is good you are thinking about things like BG setting fires. It could save your life.
When it comes to the "missing" shotguns, I would get a lawyer and make waves. Maybe go to the media if necessary.
Good luck,
Rich
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