180 grain HST"s


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Robert B
November 5, 2011, 10:34 PM
I have a hundred rounds coming via UPS next Tuesday for CCW with my Gen 4 G23. I just need to run around 70 rounds through my pistol to insure reliability first. Any thoughts on this round? Who likes/dislikes this ammo? Any chrono results out of a 4 inch barrel? Thanks.

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NG VI
November 5, 2011, 11:02 PM
Love it. Even with the massive cavity, they feed well in everything I've used (including Glocks 23 and 27), they are one of, if not the most consistent performer out of today's JHPs.

I wouldn't worry too much about chrono data, this is a duty loaded round designed around exactly the type of gun you'll be putting it into. It'll probably be between 980-1030 feet per second out of your Glock.

beatledog7
November 5, 2011, 11:07 PM
Robert, where does the 70 rounds come from?

Robert B
November 6, 2011, 01:03 AM
Massad Ayoob recommends 200 of your carry round through your gun with no failures. I say 70 because I need 25-30 rounds left over to fill my two mags. Eventually, I want to put the 200 through it. For now, I have only been able to find 100 rounds. They are coming next week. I can't wait! The HST's are excellent expanders. They do well through plywood and wallboard as well. The only thing they do wrong is lose their jackets at times through autoglass. Since I don't shoot through cars, they are the perfect round for me. Thanks.

Apocalypse-Now
November 6, 2011, 02:31 AM
probably the best performing jhp on the market right now.

RuAk
November 6, 2011, 05:04 PM
Vey nice jhp. High class performance. Have hundreds of them for my .45acp 230 gr and .40 180gr.

matrem
November 6, 2011, 07:37 PM
The most consistent HPs I've ever tested in pistols.
The only .40s I've tested were 180s from 3" bbl & were 975 average (XM40HC)
With regards to bbl length differences, I've done a fair amount of HST tests with .45 +Ps (P45HST1) and, as we all know,the longer the barrel the faster.

Results from 1911s with HST 230s:

3" Kimber 783
3.5 RI 868
4.25 Colt 882
5 Citadel 918

I can say that HSTs work well from 3" or 5"bbl. They just open up a bit more when pushed faster.

Narwhal
November 7, 2011, 03:17 AM
I stockpile the stuff; I currently have about 3000 rounds of it. So yeah, I like it and I've never had a malfunction in any of my pistols while using it.

Snowdog
November 8, 2011, 12:03 AM
I've also stocked up, but on XM40HC. That's what I carry in my M&P40c as it's proven 100% reliable so far (around 6 boxes/300 rounds) and groups well. Ballistics are about the same as the commercially packaged P40HST1 (sans nickel cases) but I bought around 700 rounds at $18/50, which I believe is far considering the performance.

I really do like the 180gr HST but have yet to test them in any medium as I usually do. I plan to put some into wetpack along with .30 Carbine Speer Gold Dot (from an M1 carbine). However, I'm quite confident it will work quite nicely considering what I've read.

beatledog7
November 8, 2011, 12:44 AM
Anyone know if these bullets can be had as just bullets?

Apocalypse-Now
November 8, 2011, 12:58 AM
Anyone know if these bullets can be had as just bullets?

no. they're not available for reloading, unfortunately. gold dots are still the best defense jhp available as a reloading component, but they can be hard to find now.

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