Quit the NRA?


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cheygriz
January 28, 2003, 02:43 PM
Why don't we just all quit the NRA, and then the whiners can find something else to whine about when the government confiscates all of our guns?

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Chris Rhines
January 28, 2003, 03:00 PM
Do you really think that joining or quitting the NRA is going to have any effect at all on whether or not the government confsciates all our guns?

- Chris

Jim March
January 28, 2003, 03:19 PM
Ya, it does make a difference. A little, anyways.

Part of the NRA "gameplan" is to always appear to be an 800lb Gorilla of politics. It scares enemies, and keeps wobbler allies in line. Membership numbers are a large part of that.

Hkmp5sd
January 28, 2003, 03:24 PM
what needs to happen is the voting members take control of the NRA and straighten out the problems. Instead of paying the membership dues, reading the magazine and doing nothing else, get these people educated and in the fight.

Wil Terry
January 28, 2003, 03:29 PM
BY THE LOOKS OF IT YOU WHINING WHELPS AIN'T GOT CLUE ONE ON HOW THE NRA HAS FOUGHT TOOTH AND TOENAIL SINCE THE 1920'S FOR YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. WERE IT NOT FOR THE NRA NONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE A GUN TODAY TO EVEN TALK ABOUT HERE AND THE MOVEMENT TO TAKE THEM ALL AWAY FROM YOU STARTED IN THE 1920'S AND WAS IN FULL FORCE BEFORE 1940. AFTER A PAUSE FOR WWII IT STARTED UP AGAIN AND HAS NEVER QUIT.
GO AHEAD YOU LAZY CHEAP SO N' SO'S AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DO ALL THE FIGHTING AND PAY ALL THE BILLS WHILE YOU SET ON YOUR LAZY IGNORENT *** AND DO NOTHING. WHEN THE GOOD GUYS WIN YOU'LL BE THE FIST TO JUMP UP AND HOLLER " HOORAY WE WON!!!! "
I CAN HARDLY STAND THE SIGHT OF WHINING NINCOMEPOOPS LIKE YOU. BUT THEN AGAIN THE LIBERTIES WON STARTING IN 1776 WERE SECURED BY LESS THAN 1/3 OF THE COLONISTS; 2/3'RDS OF 'EM WHINED THE WHOLE TIME ABOUT LOOSING A KING WHO COULD RUN THEIR LIFE SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THE MOST SIMPLE OF DECISIONS.
CAPS INTENTIONAL!!!!

JohnBT
January 28, 2003, 03:29 PM
I'm not quitting nothing, especially the NRA.

I might start getting really grouchy with the whiners though - I mean they act like $35 once a year is going to kill them. Geez.

They want an organization to be perfect (insert sound of child stomping foot repeatedly) and then take their measly $35 bucks and run home to pout. Cancel the dern HBO and blow $35 that might just do some good for something they claim to care about.

We'd rather have them with us, but life goes on without them.

And to the defeatists in the crowd...we don't need to hear what you're thinking either.

The fight continues while you go on with your boo-hoo, boo-hoo, woe is us nonsense.

John

rock jock
January 28, 2003, 03:54 PM
I'm with Jim on this. I don't like some of the compromises the NRA makes, but we would all be in deep doo-doo by now if it were't for the NRA flexing its muscle on Capitol Hill. Politicians figure that for every member of a special interest group, there are probably 10 more that share their views but are not members. 4 million members tranlates into 40 million shared views.

ralphtt
January 28, 2003, 04:13 PM
I don't agree with every move made by the NRA either, but when all is said & done, they are the best bet to insure we are able to enjoy the shooting sports; and I will continue to support the NRA.

IMHO, those who do NOT support the NRA but who profess to be gunowners and enjoy the shooting sports are playing on borrowed time. :cuss:

YMMV :banghead:
regards . . .

Carlos
January 28, 2003, 04:56 PM
They are a necessary "Evil". I'll maintain my membership for life.

rln
January 28, 2003, 05:54 PM
National Rifle Association
Gun Owners of America
State Rifle & Pistol Associations

We need all of them

HS/LD
January 28, 2003, 06:00 PM
If you are not a member and own a gun.

You are an idiot!

HS/LD

P12
January 28, 2003, 06:08 PM
Why don't you tell us how you really feel!:D


By the way I agree with you.

I'll be a Life Member as soon as I can afford it. And more orgs than just the NRA.

Shooter 2.5
January 28, 2003, 06:16 PM
I'm on two other web sites and I'm tired of defending the NRA. I'm going to stop.

Anyone has a problem with the NRA, don't let the door hit you in the *ss.

Just go ahead and pick up the slack when The NRA goes back to being a target shooting club.

Chris Rhines
January 28, 2003, 07:43 PM
I'm gonna assume that you were addressing me, Terry. If not, my apologies.

YOU WHINING WHELPS AIN'T GOT CLUE ONE ON HOW THE NRA HAS FOUGHT TOOTH AND TOENAIL SINCE THE 1920'S FOR YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. Right. They've sure done a fine job, haven't they? I'm not going to go through a point-by-point list of all the NRA's screwups, compromises, surrenders, and instances of abject cowardace, but the, I don't have to. Even a casual knowledge of the facts shows that the NRA is badly mismanaged.

WERE IT NOT FOR THE NRA NONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE A GUN TODAY TO EVEN TALK ABOUT HERE... Talk.

Now I am an NRA member and I have been for some time. Part of the reason for that is what Jim said; they manage to do some good. Particularly in the area of competition and safety training, which I don't mind paying for. Also, my shooting club requires NRA membership to join, so I'm not planning on quitting anytime soon.

But, let's not gloss over the failings, because they exist and they shouldn't. I'd rather see a tight, well-run, legislator-bribing, butt-kicking, name-taking NRA with 2 million members than a subcompetent one with 4 mil. If we can't vote with our ballots, we're going to have to vote by other means. The wallet is one of those means.

More later.

- Chris

yorec
January 28, 2003, 07:54 PM
I'll be a Life Member as soon as I can afford it. And more orgs than just the NRA.

There is hope yet - at least SOMEONE out there gets it!

Thanks P12...

Woodchuck
January 28, 2003, 07:55 PM
The truth of the matter is if ther were no NRA you wouldn't have any thing to whine about. You wouldn't have any guns and this forum would not exist. I don't agree with everything the NRA does, but I gladly pay my membership fees every year. It's usually the whiners that are too cheap to belong anyway so don't pay them no mind! The rest of us will carry your dead weight.

Standing Wolf
January 28, 2003, 10:00 PM
1. I'm not going to quit the N.R.A.

2. I'm not going to quit the G.O.A.

3. I'm not going to quit the C.S.S.A.

4. I'm not going to turn in my guns.

blades67
January 28, 2003, 10:11 PM
I'm going to quit the NRA right after I move to Utopia.:neener:

RAY WOODROW 3RD
January 28, 2003, 10:21 PM
I live in NJ and I feel that I have been screwed over by them in this State BUT I'm still staying a member. They are a necessary evil as stated above.
My NRA-ILA money that I sent them in the past is going to go somewhere else though. We (fellow NJ TFLers) started up our own group to try and fight for our rights instead of bitching at the NRA. My money will now go towards our group instead (www.njcsd.org).

By the way, I'm a paying member of JPFO, GOA, NRA, ANJRPC, Delran Junior Marksman, & Buckeye Gun Club.:cool:

Sisco
January 28, 2003, 10:24 PM
I I think we should all quit the NRA.
And the GOA, and all those other outfits that only take our money and do nothing with it.
Then we should all quit our jobs, leave our families and go to Washington.
We could spend our days making appointments, waiting in lobbies and maxing out our credit cards wining & dining those we see as a threat to our rights.
I'm sure they would be happy to accomodate us, one at time, and listen to our grievances.
We could spend evenings in cheap hotel rooms (Remember, we quit our jobs to do this!) pouring over pending legislation pretending that we understand the legal mumbo jumbo and maybe, just maybe we would find that sentence hidden in an obscure bill that would further erode our rights.
Yeah, I think we should all quit and do it ourselves. Individually we could surely do a better job than we can united.
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TexasVet
January 28, 2003, 10:26 PM
I'm not quitting anything that makes Rosie and Clooney mad!!!

Zander
January 28, 2003, 10:47 PM
Do you really think that joining or quitting the NRA is going to have any effect at all on whether or not the government confsciates all our guns?Yes.

The NRA [actually, the NRA/ILA] is recognized as one of the most potent [if not the most potent] lobbying forces extant.

Continue to whine about the "shortcomings" of the NRA if you will; but recognize that staunch members continue to carry the burden for all firearms owners/users...while the rest of you sit on your hands and your wallets.

...Zander

NRA Life Member

Stephen Ewing
January 28, 2003, 11:10 PM
Speaking as a Life Member, I'll quit the NRA if it's the last thing I do.

Now, I've got some quibbles over methods (think they compromise too much) and goals (I could live in a world without a single duck gun) but overall, they're much better than a local group that actually made a pitch to me about protecting the RKBA by requiring a NICS check on all private transactions.

My serious problems are:

1) "Effective lobby" is usually taken from the introduction of a CNN or ABCnews piece where Wayne LaPierre is sound-bitten to death, or at least to gibberish.

2) The Rifleman appears to be nothing but shameless pimping for a certain company which used to make good revolvers.

3) "Nobody needs an AK 47." This is wrong on so many levels.

Do the above blunders represent reason to quit? No. Do they represent a good reason to have my monthly copy of the Smith Catalog/American Rifleman sent to Sarah Brady, while I worry about which other RKBA organization gets my money? You betcha. I can live with the fact that the bad guys are going to try to make NRA leadership sound bad, but if they want my money again, then SOMEBODY will repudiate the agreement, and they'll figure out that an AR-15 is just as inert as a Perazzi.

Hmmm. The AR may be more inert, at that, as fussy as the darn thing is.

Steve

Chris Rhines
January 28, 2003, 11:58 PM
The NRA [actually, the NRA/ILA] is recognized as one of the most potent [if not the most potent] lobbying forces extant. More talk. The proof of the effectiveness of a lobbying organization is in the passage of good laws and the elimination of bad ones. Brother, the results just ain't there. The NRA may be one of the biggest lobbying organizations, but one of the most effective? Not from whre I'm standing.

There is nothing wrong with the NRA that could not be fixed with a high-level restructuring and the right people in charge. So far, that has not happened (not in a permanent sense.) While I don't think that quiting the organization is the answer, it may come to a point when we have to hit LaPierre and company in the pocketbook. Such is life.

- Chris

stellarpod
January 29, 2003, 07:12 AM
Chris Rhines states:

The proof of the effectiveness of a lobbying organization is in the passage of good laws and the elimination of bad ones. Brother, the results just ain't there. The NRA may be one of the biggest lobbying organizations, but one of the most effective? Not from whre I'm standing.

Chris: Do you have a crystal ball that would clearly show you what legislation would have been thrust upon us if the NRA and it's efforts had not been around?

It's easy to point at every single misfire and mistake, but you have no way of quantifying what our world would look like without the NRA's efforts. I, of course have no way of knowing either. But, my instincts tell me that we would be in a very similar situation as the UK if not for the NRA's lobbying efforts. You claim that the "results just ain't there". I would humbly suggest that the simple fact that you are still legally able to own your firearms suggests that you're just plain wrong.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

stellarpod

whoami
January 29, 2003, 08:17 AM
But, my instincts tell me that we would be in a very similar situation as the UK if not for the NRA's lobbying efforts. You claim that the "results just ain't there". I would humbly suggest that the simple fact that you are still legally able to own your firearms suggests that you're just plain wrong.

Do you have a crystal ball that would clearly show you what legislation would have been thrust upon us if the NRA and it's efforts had not been around?

It's easy to point at every single misfire and mistake, but you have no way of quantifying what our world would look like without the NRA's efforts. I, of course have no way of knowing either.

Notice a logical disconnect in those sentiments? So Chris Rhines 'has no way of quantifying what our world would look like without the NRA's efforts', but you do? So, did you pick up that crystal ball from Miss Cleo's Going Out of Business sale? :D

I humbly posit that without the NRA, we'd be back to the way things were before '39. We'd have hit the point of no return long ago, and as someone once said 'If you don't have NFA weapons on the first day of the revolution, you will on the SECOND day of the revolution'. :evil:

And for those who keep claiming that 'without the NRA you'd have no guns'.....well, the NRA is a DEAD ENTITY in NJ, and we still own guns...

Personally, I'm extremely upset with what the NRA has done in New Jersey...what they did with the smart gun issue was nearly unforgiveable. I'd still support them, but the crass, elitist, arrogant, condescending and holier-than-thou attitude displayed by the NRA members in these kinds of threads are a far more effective negative campaigning than any efforts by the antis.

PAshooter
January 29, 2003, 09:07 AM
Why do these threads keep recurring? I don't get it.

It's really quite simple:

The Brady gang and the gun-grabbing power-tripping control-freak socialist left demonizes the NRA.

This means they gotta be doing something right.

It's only $35 a year, for crying out loud.

What's better - imperfect representation or none at all?

It's a no-brainer.

Waitone
January 29, 2003, 09:15 AM
Any organization that instill unreasoning, palpable fear in the eyes and minds of those who would destroy the second amendment will get my money and support. Did the NRA pull a few boners along the way? Yep, but name an activist organization that is boner-free throughout its history.

Every movement needs a good cop and a bad cop. The pro-2 movement has the good cop in the form of the NRA. Problem is the anti-2's perceive the organization as the bad cop. We really need to create a bad cop (such as GOA) to show the anti-2 side how bad the situation could be. Then maybe we can begin the process of rolling back some of the more assinine laws.

In today's world it is impossible to be all things to all people. While the NRA has done an adequate job, that performance will be increasingly difficult to continue.

Bartholomew Roberts
January 29, 2003, 09:25 AM
Brother, the results just ain't there. The NRA may be one of the biggest lobbying organizations, but one of the most effective? Not from whre I'm standing.

The 1968 Gun Control Act (passed before the NRA even had a lobbying group) defined anyone "in the business of selling firearms" as needing an FFL. This left a pretty vague area where ATF got to interpret who was "in the business".

In 1986 the NRA passed McClure-Volkmer and Chucky Schumer attached his hated rider to it. Among other things, the NRA defined exactly what being in the business of selling firearms was so that people selling or trading an old rifle at a gun show were exempt from those requirements.

Now, would you have preferred 8 years of a Clinton presidency with the ATF determining those definitions and no protective legislation or would you prefer that the NRA compromised and got those protections (and several others such as limiting the ATF from "inspecting" an FFL out of business)?

Those who seem to delight in bashing the NRA and encouraging us to splinter into a thousand different groups with no power aren't doing the RKBA movement any favors. If you have a problem with the way the NRA does business, the way to solve it is by getting involved and voting in directors who will change the way NRA does business.

Because if you don't have the votes to change the directors at the NRA, you don't have a chance in hell of protecting the RKBA off on your own little group. :fire:

F4GIB
January 29, 2003, 04:12 PM
Management at the NRA is caught on the horns of a dilemma. NRA needs to be seen as "hard core" to attract members. But whenever it is seen as winning the gun rights war, it's members desert. Thus, losses are necessary to it's cash flow. And management knows this.

In 1993 and 1994 membership had explosive growth as Clinton and the Democrats attacked. Then, in Nov. 1994, the Republicans won the House. Tanya Metaksa (then ILA director) announced "we won" and a party mood took over the NRA.

The result wasn't good, membership dropped as annual members (cheap but non-voting) invested their $25 in beer or ammo and not in liberty insurance. In fact, membership collapsed and stayed down until after the September 11 attack.

Now it has built up again but the growth is in those fickle annual members. NRA needs the existence of a threat (Schumer, Feinstine, et al) to keep it's coffers full. NRA has no real financial reserves; like social security it spends everything every year - including all the cash from your life member dues - and depends on new membership dues for it's very existence.

So, how does the renewal of the "assault weapons" ban play out. NRA needs the fight but Republican congressmen are a fraidy-cat bunch. Will NRA support it's members or will it continue to be the national republican auxiliary? I bet we'll see lots of smoke and fury, a "voice" vote NRA can't count to renew it (like the last minute machine gun ban in 1986), and NRA basking in the cash flow produced by it's member's anger.

Everyone wins except you and I and the Second Amendment.

gryphon
January 29, 2003, 05:20 PM
Ya know, I've seen about twenty of these threads between various boards and up until now I haven't said a thing.

My big trap may gete me in trouble or might loose me some potential friends, but why should that stop me.

One of the great things about this country is called free enterprise. If you do not like the way a company is doing business or the way a political group represents then start your OWN COMPANY or POLITICAL GROUP.

mdsteele
January 29, 2003, 07:23 PM
No way. They don't do everything right I agree, but they are the best and last hope we have(if and) until the other groups get as many members and clout. When it comes right down to it, all the pro-gun groups are important.

stellarpod
January 29, 2003, 08:00 PM
Regarding my previous statements, Whoami says:

Notice a logical disconnect in those sentiments? So Chris Rhines 'has no way of quantifying what our world would look like without the NRA's efforts', but you do? So, did you pick up that crystal ball from Miss Cleo's Going Out of Business sale?

Hmmm... I believe that's why I qualified my view as opinion (i.e. "my instincts tell me..." - You even quoted me! Did you bother reading my statement before you quoted it?

Seems all of you folks that live in the most restrictive states get a kick out of blaming the NRA or lord knows who for the state of gun affairs in your neighborhood. This tired old rhetoric that in essence says "It's not my fault - (fill in the blank) is the one responsible for this mess!", makes me ill. YOU, the people of New Jersey made YOUR bed and now YOU'RE having to lay in it. Without question, climbing back out of the regulatory nightmare YOU and YOUR fellow citizens allowed YOUR ELECTED officials to lull YOU into will be no easy task. Should I end this with "An ounce of prevention..., or "He who snoozes...", or "A stitch in time..." or (ahem)...

And finally, is it Whoami or Who-WAAAAAAA-mi? :rolleyes:

stellarpod

cheygriz
January 29, 2003, 09:01 PM
I'd like to ask a queston of our New Jersey brethren: In the last election, did you vote for the candidate endorsed by the NRA, or did you vote for the liberal demoncrap endorsed by your labor union?

Enquiring minds want to know!

whoami
January 30, 2003, 01:31 PM
I'd like to ask a queston of our New Jersey brethren: In the last election, did you vote for the candidate endorsed by the NRA, or did you vote for the liberal demoncrap endorsed by your labor union?

Fine. In the last election, Norman E. Wahner, NJ Constitution Party. Supports the Second Amendment, modifying the NJ Constitution with a provision on the individual right to keep and bear arms, and massive reforms to the current NJ FID/PTC system.

Hmmm... I believe that's why I qualified my view as opinion (i.e. "my instincts tell me..." - You even quoted me! Did you bother reading my statement before you quoted it?

Go back, read my statement again, and then try to recall the last time someone used Miss Cleo as a legitimate supportive point...it's called 'humor'....hence the smiley....

[quotre]Seems all of you folks that live in the most restrictive states get a kick out of blaming the NRA or lord knows who for the state of gun affairs in your neighborhood. This tired old rhetoric that in essence says "It's not my fault - (fill in the blank) is the one responsible for this mess!", makes me ill. [/quote]

First of all...direct quote from my post wherein I directly blamed the NRA for the state of gun affairs in New Jersey. You will not find it because it is not there. I specifically stated:
Personally, I'm extremely upset with what the NRA has done in New Jersey...what they did with the smart gun issue was nearly unforgiveable.

Do you know the whole story behind S890/A700? Do you know the details of the NRA's involvement in it's passing, and what it did regarding the various grassrots organizations in this state? Obviously not. As I stated, I have no problem if the NRA wants to abandon New Jersey....they're not beholden to anyone. But when the NRA pushes itself into a political arena that it DOES NOT UNDERSTAND and DIRECTLY UNDERMINES THE WORK OF GRASSROOTS ORGS, I have every right to be upset, and I have every right to call them on it.

You know what makes me ill.....people who tell me to 'turn east and kiss the NRA's ***' for my gun rights. People who demean and denigrate on the tireless efforts of so many private citizens to defend our gunrights, for no other reason than it's not done under the auspices of the NRA. People who treat those who conscientiously object to NRA membership as no better than the minions of HCI, regardless of what other efforts they have made on behalf of Second Amendment rights.

YOU, the people of New Jersey made YOUR bed and now YOU'RE having to lay in it. Without question, climbing back out of the regulatory nightmare YOU and YOUR fellow citizens allowed YOUR ELECTED officials to lull YOU into will be no easy task. Should I end this with "An ounce of prevention..., or "He who snoozes...", or "A stitch in time..." or (ahem)...

WERE IT NOT FOR THE NRA NONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE A GUN TODAY TO EVEN TALK ABOUT HERE

The truth of the matter is if ther were no NRA you wouldn't have any thing to whine about. You wouldn't have any guns and this forum would not exist.

Without the NRA, you would not be on this forum because you wouldn't have any guns to talk about.

THINK about it, without the NRA, who do you think would be FORCING the gun grabbers to back off on their agenda?

I do not like much of what the NRA does, but without them we'd have been SOL a looooooong time ago.

My guess is that people will not blame the NRA as much as soon as it's members stop the mantra of 'all men are created equal, and endowed by the NRA with certain unalienable rights'....

Hehehe...nothing more than a little bit of 'non-NRA member = Brady slave' mentality and a dash of 'if not done by the NRA, it doesn't matter'. Like I said...'the crass, elitist, arrogant, condescending and holier-than-thou attitude displayed by the NRA members in these kinds of threads' is what keeps me from joining the NRA. I could well afford it, but I'd prefer to not have the stain on my honor by being formally associated with such people. I'd much rather put my money, time, and efforts toward other gun rights groups, and mostly to the local fight. I would also mention that it would be rather nice to be able to wage the war necessary to fight the tide in Trenton without being hamstrung by the NRA......

And finally, is it Whoami or Who-WAAAAAAA-mi?

I thought this was supposed to be The High Road. Kindergarden is two doors down.

Russ
January 30, 2003, 03:02 PM
HS/LD epressed my senitments exactly.

RAY WOODROW 3RD
January 30, 2003, 05:05 PM
Quote:

"YOU, the people of New Jersey made YOUR bed and now YOU'RE having to lay in it. Without question, climbing back out of the regulatory nightmare YOU and YOUR fellow citizens allowed YOUR ELECTED officials to lull YOU into will be no easy task."


AHEM.......... stellarpod.........

What is born in NJ and CA comes to YOUR DOOR Federally.

How can YOU allow YOUR federal representatives place such restrictions on YOUR right to keep and bear arms?

Need NJ examples?

Domestic violence law........brought to you by the infamous Senator Laugtenberg of NJ. First passed at the state level. For the first time in our history you can be denied your right to keep and bear arms over a misdomeanor domestic charge. This bill was passed retroactively and if you had a charge from the past you lost your guns.

Assault firearms law........brought to you by the infamous ex-Governor Florio of NJ. First passed at the state level and then introduced Federally.

So........How could YOU allow YOUR reps to vote for these bills and pass them as the law of the land?

What happens at the state level comes at you and it seems that it usually passes at the Federal level. Anybody care to give some CA examples?

The point is, we are all in this together. Picking on NJ, CA, or any other state is defeating us. whoami brings up some good points about how we in NJ were shafted by the NRA. There is no other name for it. See the link below for other states where this has happened. The NRA serves a purpose but seems to forget why they are there sometimes. As state before, I'm an NRA member.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcInfoBase.asp?CatID=175

KRAUTGUNNER
January 30, 2003, 05:11 PM
@ cheygriz:

Just a few days ago, I joined the ranks of the NRA to support them in the fight against the anti-gunners in the USA and particularly against NGO's like IANSA on the international (UN)-level!

It is my firm conviction, that if the gun-grabbers achieve their ultimate goal of the total disarmament of the privat citizens in the USA, then landslide victories of the hoplophobes in most of the "civilized" nations on earth will follow.

The USA are the last and strongest bastion of freedom and legal civilian gun-ownership in the world.

If those civil rights go down the toilet in the USA, then our cause is lost worldwide.

Pro-gun organizations like the NRA or GOA in the USA, the FWR in Germany, the IWÖ in Austria, ProTELL in Switzerland, ANTAC in France and others are the last-ditch defenses for our RKBA!!!

And YOU want to go AWOL on our common cause???

SHAME ON YOU!!! :( :( :(

Watch-Six
January 30, 2003, 05:26 PM
The NRA does some things that bug me, including the tons of fund raising mail that they send me. I have been a member for many years and I will NEVER quit. Even though it is imperfect, the NRA is the best thing that we have going for us. Other groups are welcome to join the fight, but the NRA has always taken the brunt of the battles. Unfortunately, the battles are not always victories. Watch-Six

sgtredleg
January 30, 2003, 08:06 PM
Iv'e been an off and on member of the NRA for many years. When I wasn't with them I was with the GOA (whom I prefer).
Because of the NRA position on "The Lady of Peace" bill, I recently let my NRA membership expire after communicating my thoughts on this item.:cuss:
Then I signed up with the esteemed GOA, again,!:D
However, after reading all views, especially "Krautgunner" I figure it would be best to re-new my NRA membership as well, and continue beating on Pierre and his cronies.:banghead:
Gotta keep on "Charlie Mikein"

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