question on mailing trust to ATF


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plunge
November 19, 2011, 12:23 PM
I got my trust notarized and registered today and when I registered it the lady at the courthouse said i had to leave my original copy there. I don't know a whole lot about this and i just want to find out if the photo copy of my trust paperwork is enough or if i need notarized copies to send in. the press/stamp thing my notary used didnt show up at all in the photo copy. i did get a stamped paper certifying the original trust is at the courthouse. So basically i need to know if a photocopy with no stamp for notary is good, or if the certified letter with the photocopy, or maybe even go back to my notary and see if she'll stamp the photocopy. i just don't want to hold up the process any longer. thanks.

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Mot45acp
November 20, 2011, 12:39 PM
I just send 1 copy with schedule "A", a copy of the notarized page, and form 1 or 4 in duplicate. Never had to leave original anywhere but my safe. But that might be a regional thing. (Im in Tx)

GoingQuiet
November 20, 2011, 11:31 PM
Copy is sufficient.

dprice3844444
November 21, 2011, 11:27 AM
or you can have the copy certified by the courthose and send that.don't want to confuse the phat heads in dc.

ServiceSoon
November 29, 2011, 12:13 AM
I didn't send the ATF a complete copy of my trust. I sent the ATF a copy of the trust declaration.

rjrivero
November 29, 2011, 12:21 PM
I didn't send the ATF a complete copy of my trust. I sent the ATF a copy of the trust declaration.

Let us know how that works out. I've "heard" that the ATF has requested the entire trust in cases like this.

CoRoMo
November 29, 2011, 12:49 PM
I just send 1 copy with schedule "A", a copy of the notarized page, and form 1 or 4 in duplicate. Never had to leave original anywhere but my safe. But that might be a regional thing.
This. I have the original, ATF has a copy.

GoingQuiet
November 29, 2011, 02:55 PM
This drives me nuts.

EVERYONE who gives NFA trust commentary always talks about schedule A.

Schedule A is a generic catch all term no different than "Appendix A" or "Exhibit A" - depending on how the trust is written, when you tell someone they need to send "schedule A" - you are PROBABLY telling them to send over a schedule of assets OR you could be telling them to send over a schedule of beneficiaries, alternate trustees in the event of persistent vegetative state or something irrelevant.

A more accurate way to describe what is necessary to send is stating that ATF needs a COMPLETE trust copy to examine.

I just send 1 copy with schedule "A", a copy of the notarized page, and form 1 or 4 in duplicate. Never had to leave original anywhere but my safe. But that might be a regional thing. (Im in Tx)

ServiceSoon
December 1, 2011, 11:07 PM
Let us know how that works out. I've "heard" that the ATF has requested the entire trust in cases like this.I got my stamp.

This drives me nuts.

EVERYONE who gives NFA trust commentary always talks about schedule A.

Schedule A is a generic catch all term no different than "Appendix A" or "Exhibit A" - depending on how the trust is written, when you tell someone they need to send "schedule A" - you are PROBABLY telling them to send over a schedule of assets OR you could be telling them to send over a schedule of beneficiaries, alternate trustees in the event of persistent vegetative state or something irrelevant.

A more accurate way to describe what is necessary to send is stating that ATF needs a COMPLETE trust copy to examine.I sent them the declaration of trust; I did not send them the complete trust and I received my stamp.

rjrivero
December 2, 2011, 12:50 AM
When did you get the stamp on this declaration of trust? What date did it get approved?

TXSWFAN
December 4, 2011, 12:39 PM
Why are you registering your trust? They don't need to be. That's one of the reasons you go with a trust versus a LLC, S Corp, etc.

zoom6zoom
December 4, 2011, 12:49 PM
^ varies by state.

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