New Trapdoor..!


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Shanghai McCoy
November 21, 2011, 08:09 AM
I picked up my new Uberti trapdoor carbine Friday evening at the KC Cabela's. :)

The fit and finish on this is very nice and it was LNIB with a repro McKeever cartridge pouch included. I managed to get out back yesterday and shoot it and it groups pretty well but is consistantly left about 4" at 25 yards.
So, any tips on the best, non invasive, method of adjusting the carbine for windage..?

(Course, my 10 year old daughter did tell me "Just aim to the right Dad.." ):)

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StrawHat
November 21, 2011, 08:13 AM
It depends on what sights Uberti used on the carbine. If the front sight is dovetailed, drift it to the left. If the rear sight is adjustable, move it to the right.

Where are the pictures????

Shanghai McCoy
November 21, 2011, 08:53 AM
The sights the old style miltary type. Non-dovetailed front and the ladder rear sight assembly that is screwed to the barrel.

I'll see about some pictures sometime. Got to get the 10 year olds help with that...:confused:

FiveStrings
November 23, 2011, 08:56 AM
Shanghai,

It looks like Uberti's trapdoor is reproducing the 1873 model.

My trapdoor is an 1890 vintage model 1884 that has the "Buffington" rear sight with an excellent windage adjustment. Like yours, mine also shot to the left. A very slight windage adjustment to the right like Strawhat says cured the problem perfectly. Those sights were pretty slick for their time. I bet yours has some kind of windage adjustment too.

Captain*kirk
November 23, 2011, 09:59 AM
We need pictures!!!!!!!!

Shanghai McCoy
November 24, 2011, 12:21 PM
Here are some pictures...
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss213/nissen_susan/carbinerearsight1.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss213/nissen_susan/carbinerearsight2.jpg

45-70 Ranger
November 24, 2011, 06:56 PM
Woah, true to form. That's a copy of the old '73 sight. That one has no wiggle room for conventional adjustment at all. I presume that the front sight is staked in a slot like the originals too huh? If so, then you have a real problem attempting to adjust anything there.

A suggestion; if, and I mean IF, you have a good gunsmith close, ask him if he could mill a dovetail in the front at a slight depth. Reproduce the present sight with a dovetailed base and get you some windage adjustment. If not, he might be able to weld/braze a dovetail base to the existing sight. If my old gunshop was still running, that is what I would have done. Making a sight was never a problem for me and did several for those that had difficulty with them. It does seam a shame that a weapon that cost as much as this one did, and so finely finished, would shoot off center....

Wade

kBob
November 24, 2011, 08:17 PM
My Brother-in-law recently scored a .50-70 with he reports an 1866 block and 1864 lock plate.

I did not get a chance to see it today so I won't until Christmas.

It is missing its rod, but what I am asking about is wood/finish issues. He described it as having little spots of white paint over much of the butt. ANy suggestions for removing such without destroying any value?

-kBob

Shanghai McCoy
November 24, 2011, 11:13 PM
Yeah Wade, kind of a bummer but it's accurate just off center.
(Kinda like me...);)
I'm looking into my options but need to load up some more ammo. BTW, that Trail Boss 12gr load works pretty well with the 405 bullet, got some 300gr bullets on the way to try in it.

StrawHat
November 25, 2011, 06:43 AM
Here are my two go to sites for stuff on Trapdoors.

http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/

http://www.trapdoors.com/

Shanghai, your rear sight does not look anything like the one on my 1873 (built in 1878). Perhaps using a file on the rear sight notch, you could shift the point of impact over by widening the notch.

However, before you make any adjustments to the sights, are you using the ammunition you will continue to use? With fixed sights, do all your experimenting with loads prior to adjusting the sights. Not all ammo will fall into the same "group" so decide on the load and then make the correction.

StrawHat
November 25, 2011, 06:48 AM
kBob,

Sounds like the brother in law got himself a Second Allin conversion of the Springfield musket. Nice score. I would go as low tech as possibl removing the paint spots. No chemicals as they will pull the original finish. My first try would involve a credit card or hotel room key and try to "push" the spots off the stock. If no luck with that, maybe try to gently scrape the spots away. Paint is not a lot of fun to remove as it can get into the pores of the American black walnut that was used for stock wood. If neither of those two methods work, I am at a loss without seeing the stock.

junkman_01
November 25, 2011, 08:11 AM
Shanhai McCoy wrote
I picked up my new Uberti trapdoor carbine Friday evening at the KC Cabela's.

Then why is it marked Pedersoli ?

col.lemat
November 25, 2011, 11:05 AM
bad eyes also explains why rifle shoots to the left

72coupe
November 25, 2011, 12:49 PM
I would shoot it for a while before I made any drastic changes to the sights. After is broken in it may shoot closer to the point of aim.

Also try a variety of ammunition as something different may shoot to another place. Or you may be able to handload ammo that shoots to point of aim.

Shanghai McCoy
November 25, 2011, 02:34 PM
junkman 01

Pedersoli makes the rifle for Uberti and Stoeger imports them.And my eyes are just fine for a man my age...

junkman_01
November 25, 2011, 04:56 PM
The pictures of Trap door rifles on the Uberti website are not marked Pedersoli.

Shanghai McCoy
November 25, 2011, 10:39 PM
They may mark them on the underside of the barrels now...
Mine has the Uberti, Pedersoli and Stoeger markings showing which REALLY confused the gal at the firearms checkout.

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