[Wildbillz]

Has anyone used MagTech primers in the past? If so what sort of results did you get and would you use them again?

Thanks'
WB

[ReloaderFred]

I've used about 20,000 MagTech Small Pistol primers, and 5,000 Large Pistol primers. I find them about the same sensitivity as Federal primers in the same sizes in my tuned match pistols.

I personally like them, and yes, I'll use them again. I've got about 15,000 MagTech Small Pistol primers on the shelf right now and have no qualms whatsoever in using them.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[jcwit]

What kind of results? They went BANG!

Seriously, I've used them and still have more to use, I've had no problems with them.

[greyling22]

they all went bang for me. I bought them at a gun show bit when I got home I discovered some of the boxes were missing som e primers. Don't know if that wa smagtech or not. I was shorted maybe 30 out of 1000. Never more than 6 in a box of 100. Maybe 5 of the remaining ones were duds.

[BYJO4]

I frequently use Magtech primers along with CCI and Winchester. They are excellent primers.

[bds]

For me, they have performed comparable to Winchester primers.

One thing I have noticed is that when press priming in the Pro 1000, they feed/seat better than Winchester but Tula/Wolf are harder to seat. When I checked as to why, they seem to have more rounded cup lip edge that allows better seating into the primer pockets.

When hand priming, they seat comparable to Winchester primers, perhaps with slight less effort.

[Uniquedot]

I had good luck with them, but when i purchased them the cost for a case of them wasn't much more than a box of 1k costs today. I guess they have since changed because they were harder to seat than Winchester primers when using a hand tool. I do remember that they had a yellow compound in them, but based on my experiences with them i would definitely use and trust them. BTW i only used them in LP and LR sizes.

[56hawk]

I bought one box of MagTech small pistol primers back during the primer shortage. They were the worst primers I have ever used. In some guns I was getting a 50% failure rate. Mainly the newer S&W revolvers with the floating firing pin, but I also had failures with all the other guns I used them in including an older S&W 66, a HK USP and a P7M13.

[ReloaderFred]

"In some guns I was getting a 50% failure rate. Mainly the newer S&W revolvers with the floating firing pin, but I also had failures with all the other guns I used them in including an older S&W 66, a HK USP and a P7M13."

I'm afraid that sounds more like a primer seating problem than a primer problem. If they weren't seated near .004" below flush, the firing pin was just finishing the seating process 50% of the time.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[Uniquedot]

I'm afraid that sounds more like a primer seating problem than a primer problem.

Yep, it has to be a seating problem when one is experiencing a 50% failure rate. Heck i wouldn't expect a 50% failure rate with wet primers. :what:

[56hawk]

I'm afraid that sounds more like a primer seating problem than a primer problem. If they weren't seated near .004" below flush, the firing pin was just finishing the seating process 50% of the time.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Then why do the Federal, Winchester and CCI primers I use work 100% of the time?

[Walkalong]

Are the MagTech a little tougher to seat? Just curious, cause it really sounds like a primer seating problem. In many thousands of primers over the years I finally had a few bad primers not long ago, but it was more less than 1%. (Less than 10 out of 1K)

I also had a couple of light strikes with a new gun, but it turned out I wasn't seating the primers far enough. I was using the same priming tool I had used for years, but I guess wear made a difference. I had noticed that the primers (.45 ACP) were not quite as deep as I liked, but they were still firing, so until I got the new gun and had a misfire, I did not look for a problem. I made a new seating rod (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=151638&d=1319764115) for the RCBS priming tool (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=151639&d=1319764115) that seats primers fully now and the problem went away.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7685091&postcount=4

[ReloaderFred]

56hawk,

There are manufacturing tolerances for each and every product made in the world. As long as a product falls within the parameters of the tolerences for that product, then it's considered within specifications. The reality is that it would be naive to believe that every product is made "exactly the same" as every other product in the same catagory. This would be an impossible standard to hold.

There is what is called "tolerance stack". That simply means that whatever the parameters are for a product, versus where the product is being used, those tolerances work together to cause tolerance stack. To put it simply, two items put together will have an overall measurement. If both are at the minimum of the parameters, then you will have a "short" measurement for the stack. However, if they're both at the maximum of the parameters, then you will have a completely different measurement for the stack, but both measurements will still be within specifications, even though the difference can be significant.

You didn't mention to what depth you're seating your domestic primers, so I'm going to make the assumption that you're going by feel, which may be in error, but just in case, I'm going to suggest you measure the depth below flush. The purpose of seating the primers .004" below flush is to mechanically seat the primer anvil onto the primer pellet. Most primers have the anvil above the rim of the primer cup prior to seating, and this is done on purpose so the anvil can be seated when the primer is properly inserted into the primer pocket. If the primer isn't seated all the way, then you'll get misfires, even though it's a good primer.

Of the 25,000+ MagTech primers I've used so far, I've yet to have a misfire. I'll have to admit that I pay particular attention to priming, since it's the key to the whole equation going off when it's supposed to. After all, without the primer, powder is just fertilizer, bullets are just fishing weights, and cases are something to take to the recycler. The primer is extremely important to the whole equation, so I pay a lot of attention to the primers and priming.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[56hawk]

Fred,

I don't have anymore MagTech primers, and will never buy anymore so I couldn't say what the exact depth I seated them to was. I do seat primers by feel, and make sure they are below flush both visually and by running my finger over them.

Maybe it's my technique, but it doesn't change the fact that of the hundreds of thousands of primers I've used I can't remember ever having a Federal primer fail, only a handful of Winchesters fail, but almost a 10% failure rate with MagTechs.

[DCoke]

I've not had any problem with MagTech primers....granted, I've only reloaded about 2500 rounds with them (both large and small) but so far there have been no issues that were not of my doing (i.e. not fully seating and carefully double checking my work).

[ny32182]

I went through 5k small pistol a while back. No issues that I can recall. If they are what's on sale next time I need primers, that is what I will get.

[Mike Kerr]

I went thru 1,000 of the small pistol primer, and 1,000 of the large pistol primer, of MagTech's brand about two years ago. No issues with seating and they all went bang.

regards,

:):):)

[Hagen442]

Tried some Magtech Primers a few years back. Small and Large Pistol (5000 Each).
Got rid of them after the first 100 used.
Went back to Federal for Revolvers and Winchester for Auto Pistols.
CCI for Rifle and Winchester for Shotguns.

I Tune Accordingly With Federal being the Softest, CCI the Hardest, with Winchester in the Middle.

Hagen