What's the biggest game you'd hunt with a 10mm?


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GJgo
December 3, 2011, 12:19 PM
I have a S&W 610 6.5" that I often carry in the woods for defense, or when I'm assisting a friend on his hunt & can't carry a rifle. Got me thinking though, with good handloads at close range what would be the top end of appropriate game to hunt with it? My thoughts are that deer would be fine but I'd be hesitant to take a poke at a (cow) elk. Thoughts?

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DesertFox
December 3, 2011, 12:30 PM
Shot placement. If you can land your 10mm in the right spot, you'll take down anything. Would I head out with my 610 as primary for elk? No. Deer? Sure. Primary for bear? No. Backup? Yes, but I'd rather have my G29 - more capacity, lighter weight.

Whitetail is the largest I've taken with 10mm. Pistol hunting for bear (or anything else for that matter) will have me packing the 8 3/8" scoped 44 Mag and a 2 5/8" 629PC on the hip for backup. 300gr sitting on 19gr H110 folds most stuff like a taco.

303tom
December 3, 2011, 02:39 PM
Man..........

Gunnerboy
December 3, 2011, 02:59 PM
Coons

castingdonkey
December 3, 2011, 03:28 PM
Whatever is close enough and yields a clear shot. I can't wait for the opportunity to use it on an elk or black bear. Of course they aren't that tough of an animal to drop. I am interested in seeing how well they will penetrate the hide of a war torn boar(pig). I did see a youtube video of a guy shooting a wild hog from about 2 yards with a 10mm while holding a video camera. Blast away and let us know if you find something too tough.

Justin Holder
December 3, 2011, 03:57 PM
Under ideal conditions with the right load the 10mm should be able to take an elk or black bear.

Biggest animals I've taken was a 175 pound hog and about a 200 pound Axis deer.

MCgunner
December 3, 2011, 10:46 PM
Anything that I use my .357 magnum for. That'd be deer/hog for me, have taken both with a 6.5" Blackhawk. 10mm is about on par with my .357 loads from that gun.

GJgo
December 4, 2011, 10:14 AM
Sounds like we're pretty much on the same page then. Elk hunting is rarely ideal, I want insurance. ;)

My go-to load is pushing a 180gr XTP out @ ~1350, but I thought it'd be nice if there was something like a 200gr JSP for offensive operations.

uvausmc
December 4, 2011, 11:10 AM
big hogs, with the right bullets.

castingdonkey
December 4, 2011, 01:10 PM
gjgo looks like we live in the same city. If you use game calls to get your elk close to you it could be a 5 yard shot. At the velocity you speek of with a 180gr xtp that far exceeds the 550ftlbs at 50 yards. you might see an exit hole if you hit it behind the shoulder on a cow elk. I would sure like to come along and hold the backup rifle for you if it didn't work out. My bet is you will smash anything that you hit. I have a g20 sf with a 4.5'' barrell and am going to buy a 6'' storm lake or simillar barrel this spring. I will most definitelly target elk with it next year. The reason's I didn't this year is: they don't sell hunting ammo for it here in gj and two I have to do some work on the sight's for whatever reason this brand new g20 shoots 6' low at 10 yards. So after I file my front sight all the way off trying to get it to hit the point of aim. I will have to go back and get a raised rear sight and a new front sight and file some more.

waffentomas
December 6, 2011, 08:16 PM
I shot an elk years ago with my Glock 20. He was running, and about 25-30 yards away. Shot him with a hand loaded Black Talon. Whew!, he was fast, but before anybody gets their wad in bind, he was probably a June baby, and so was the size of a very large deer.

I've also shot a pig. He was looking at me about 30 feet away, and I shot him straight on. Hit him just below the chin, and he died asap. Again, with a hand loaded Black Talon.

Both bullets stayed in the target. Not sure I'd take a full grown elk at much past that shot, even though the bullet trashed both his lungs.

MCgunner
December 6, 2011, 08:22 PM
Elk can get REAL big. Were I to use the guns I have for elk, handguns that is, I reckon I'd use my Blackhawk pushing a 300 grain XTP at about 1120 fps or the Contender barrel in .45 Colt pushing it at 1200 fps. The contender's barrel is 7", the Blackhawk's 4 5/8".

Then again, handgunning elk might be all the reason I'd need to buy and develop a load for a .45/70 barrel for the Contender. Ouch....:D

TexasPatriot.308
December 6, 2011, 08:53 PM
I wouldnt and dont use autos for hunting, I only use large bore revolvers.

GJgo
December 6, 2011, 10:18 PM
Castingdonkey, you have a 10 & you don't reload for it?!?! Oh the humanity.. But hey I'd be happy to gather your spent brass. :P Do you belong to OMGC?

SK2344
December 6, 2011, 11:51 PM
Man..........
I'm not a hunter and would never think to kill an animal but I would, without hesitation hunt and kill that Decadent Species they call, "Gang Banger". And that's about it!

castingdonkey
December 7, 2011, 01:41 AM
No gun clubs yet, I hear there are some good ones around. I think I shot a trap tourney at the OMGC. The spe shoot out, lot's of fun out there by the race track. I have been saving my brass and am trying to decide whether I wait until I have the money for a dillon 550 or just buy some dies for the RCBS single press that I have. I have been picking up cartridges at Jimmy's since he is the cheapest in town. 1/2 price on hornady's and about 40 cents a round for target ammo. Like I mentioned before I need to get the sights fixed or contact glock or something the gun shoots too low.

MCgunner
December 7, 2011, 11:07 AM
If you shoot a lot and can justify the cost, the Dillon is a fantastic machine.



I'm not a hunter and would never think to kill an animal but I would, without hesitation hunt and kill that Decadent Species they call, "Gang Banger". And that's about it!

Hmm, them gang banger animals have decent backstraps on 'em? Is there a season, a limit? :D I am one of those things known as Homo sapiens carnivorous, myself. :D

castingdonkey
December 7, 2011, 05:20 PM
GJCO, I also have the phone number of one of the brass pickers in town he has a good supply of brass for most calibers.

GJgo
December 7, 2011, 09:05 PM
Beleive it or not I actually found a pile of 10 brass at the range today! It's like Christmas!

mavracer
December 7, 2011, 09:18 PM
Deer and Boar would be the biggest that I'd take my 10mm to hunt, but that'd about have to be on a bet as I just have too many guns that I concider better suited.

castingdonkey
December 8, 2011, 06:57 PM
awesome, I think the only 10mm brass I ever stumble upon is the stuff I couldn't find from the last trip.

gspn
December 11, 2011, 02:25 AM
Wooly Mammoth...or Saber Tooth Tiger...perhaps a T-Rex if the shot was right.

RhinoDefense
December 11, 2011, 02:35 AM
OK, here's the cut and dry:

Ballistically illustrated, the 10mm Auto and the .357 Magnum are identical.

I've personally killed whitetail deer, black bear, and smaller game (coyote, fox, rabbit, squirrel, grouse) with it. Medium game (deer, black bear) have died within 50y of being shot with a single round. Small game is DRT.

Inside 150y with the skill to hit the vitals is where I would put the 10mm.

Lloyd Smale
December 11, 2011, 11:14 AM
Ive shot deer and hogs with my 610 and would add black bear to the list but havent shot one with the 610. Using a heavy 200 grain and up flat nose cast bullet at full power your not much behind a 41 mag.

GJgo
December 11, 2011, 11:39 AM
Thanks Lloyd for sharing your actual experiences. I wish I could find a ~200gr jacketed soft point for 40 cal, but I haven't seen it.

I've read a lot of the pissing match threads about where the 10 lays in power vs. 357, 41, 44 etc.. I've owned all of those, but not taken game with them. Well OK, I shot a couple cottontails with the 44 once. Leaves me wondering though, from a handgun can you actually push a 180 grain 357 round out at ~1300fps? Seems excessive.

RhinoDefense
December 11, 2011, 12:23 PM
Yes, a .357 180gr bullet at 1300fps is very easy to do. Use H110/W296 or Lil Gun.

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