Just a little something from another forum I frequent......


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Glocktimus Prime
December 12, 2011, 03:35 PM
I am a new member to this site, but I am a long time lurker. I got sick of the typical armchair quarterbacks found on other sites so I am here to give this on a shot.

Forgive me if this is a repost, but i thought this might make for a good first one.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5501655-House-renovation-firearm-find

Quick overview of the original thread:
Guy buys house- demos work bench and finds various NFA goodies in bench top. turns them in and hopes he can get them back.

Here's to my first thread not getting locked up.

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GMcBoozer
December 12, 2011, 03:57 PM
Hopefully he can afford to get them back, if the BATFE lets him. My money is on him never seeing them again, and them being destroyed.

towboat_er
December 12, 2011, 04:00 PM
I agree.

The BATFE will sell em to drug cartel members.

Hunterdad
December 12, 2011, 04:24 PM
That's crazy!

Glocktimus Prime
December 12, 2011, 05:55 PM
I agree.

The BATFE will sell em to drug cartel members.
i almost spit my coke on my computer.

Sure is a crazy find. It is truly a shame he won't be getting these finds back.

Tim the student
December 12, 2011, 05:58 PM
Holy smokes! I really hope he gets that stuff back!

OP, will you write a synopsis of that thread? I think this may get locked for being a drive by - I hope not, but it might, IMO.

For others:

The linked thread is about a guy who was renovating a house, and had to take apart a work bench. Inside the work bench, inaccessible from the outside, were a boatload of NFA stuff. Said NFA stuff was turned over to the ATF.

whetrock
December 12, 2011, 06:02 PM
I'm not gonna lie if I found something like that it would be difficult for me to tell the authorities. I also wander if this is just a hoax and it's really just pics of some NFA enthusiest's collection I just have a hard time believing somebody "found" that really nice collection of weapons, but you never know what's out there.

Glocktimus Prime
December 12, 2011, 06:08 PM
I'm not gonna lie if I found something like that it would be difficult for me to tell the authorities. I also wander if this is just a hoax and it's really just pics of some NFA enthusiest's collection I just have a hard time believing somebody "found" that really nice collection of weapons, but you never know what's out there.
I'm don't know the owner of the house, nor the OP of the thread, but either way, it is a hell of a find if real.

lowerunit411
December 12, 2011, 06:11 PM
as for me i think its a set up scam....seems so unlikely,,,,but then again im old and to me almost everything nowadays is suspect......just seems too "convenient" and who would take such a series of photos without so much as a suspicion...its a scam

JSpear
December 12, 2011, 06:13 PM
Wow!! Wish that would happen to me!

hso
December 12, 2011, 06:15 PM
That almost makes me weep!

Folding stock BM59
Para FAL
High Standard<Colt Huntsman> .22 with suppressor
Collapsible stock CETME or early G3???
Sten
AK

lowerunit411
December 12, 2011, 06:16 PM
its a scam...but helluva first post if not suspect...see i told you i was old and suspicious!

Glocktimus Prime
December 12, 2011, 06:21 PM
its a scam...but helluva first post if not suspect...see i told you i was old and suspicious!
I wish I knew more about what i was looking at in those pics. Is there anything anyone can see in those pics as to know if they are real or not? Maybe when certain guns were made by how old they are, that would possibly make them a true stash away? I just don't know much about guns like that but would love to learn all I can about that stuff.

hso
December 12, 2011, 06:31 PM
That's a BM59 stock on the left and a slant brake from an AK sticking out on the right in the pic with the pants.
http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albums/2011/IMG_0332.sized.jpg

If the rest are faked I don't know why you'd see the distinctive Beretta rifle in the first place.

Glocktimus Prime
December 12, 2011, 06:42 PM
Are you a believer? I am. I could only hope to find stuff like this in my newly bought house during a renovation. Thumbs up for a good debate. =)

Ian
December 12, 2011, 08:21 PM
Can't be sure on the others, but the AK is full auto. You can see the third axis pin.

hso
December 12, 2011, 10:04 PM
http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albums/2011/IMG_0343.sized.jpg
http://www.icollector.com/images/1200/18170/18170_1025_2_sm.jpg

Ahhhhhh, Colt Huntsman!

Dulvarian
December 12, 2011, 10:15 PM
Just one reason to do all your home repairs yourself. You never have to say a word about anything that you find inside the house from previous residents.

armoredman
December 12, 2011, 10:29 PM
If someone really found these firearms and handed them to ATFE, they are gone. Some may be sent to cartel members, others went to the members only ATFE museum, and the common ones are being destroyed right now.

Black Butte
December 12, 2011, 11:10 PM
BATFE officials will be taking them home to add to their own collections.

Bubbles
December 13, 2011, 09:51 AM
Not necessarily. If they were ever on paper ATF should try to contact the former owner, or his heirs.

And the guy who found them did the right thing. I'm counting way too many years in Club Fed if he'd kept them and it was discovered.

Gunnerboy
December 13, 2011, 10:00 AM
yep well i woulda had to pull some russian connections and get me a plane out of there with my newly aquired friends :D

Wildbillz
December 13, 2011, 12:31 PM
I just saved the pics and made them bigger to see if I could see any details.

I noticed the following.

The AK looks like the recever is unfinished and appers to have the thrid pin in place.

The H&K looking one is some sort of G3. Its got the wrong sight for a Cetme.

The BM 59 Stock is shown with what looks to be an M1A Bush barrel gun. I think the same stock either fits both or SA made some of the folders to fit the M1As. Can't tell if that one is converted or not as its flipped on the wrong side. 30 round mag sitting by it in the picture also.

The STEN Gun looks like the mag shoot is in the storage position as the mag is not locked in all the way.

The Fal I think is a kit build. Its got the wrong parts in a couple of places to be an orignal FN. Gas plug is Austrian, Flash hidder looks like its an after market one and the take down lever is miss matched to the finnish of the lower.

I think I tend to beleve the story that they found someones illegal stach of guns and turned them over to the BATFE. If not they were stupid to put the pics up.

But then I could be all wrong?
WB

Wildbillz
December 14, 2011, 04:49 AM
I just read through the orginal posting and the guys said only some of them had been converted, so some may be legal?

Also it looks like some sort of room built in behind the bench? You can see a barrel and some stuff behind the wall in the pictures. Like a coal room that had the enterance walled off to hide it?

WB

Jim K
December 14, 2011, 11:48 AM
General rule: When you buy a house, you buy its contents as well unless the sales contact specifically exempts something (e.g., "the crystal chandelier in the dining room does not convey"). So the current owner of the home would legally own those guns, etc. BUT, if they are NFA items, and not registered, they are contraband, and cannot (and will not) be returned to the owner. If they are registered, things get tricky. BATFE will/might attempt to contact the previous owner and they could be legally transferred to the new owner of the house IF the original owner, or his heir, wants to go through the paper work of the transfer. IMHO, if the new owner wants to have the NFA items returned, he should contact an attorney.

Jim

Babarsac
December 14, 2011, 12:31 PM
Here is a quick question. If one found a NFA item such as a SBR or full-auto then destroyed it by cutting the reciever, could you still get in trouble?

armoredman
December 14, 2011, 01:45 PM
BATFE says receivers have to be torch cut in three places, I believe. Waste of a good firearm, but 30 years behind bars is a waste, too.

Strykervet
December 14, 2011, 03:52 PM
ALWAYS dig through a new house or flat. I've found everything from drugs to money to you name it. Even found stuff from a previous landlord's dead father that he hid in the house thirty years ago.

But I installed security systems, and whenever I moved, I put in a top notch system. That require digging in odd places to hide wires and such. You find ALL KINDS of stuff in peoples houses that they didn't know were there.

If your house had previous residents, go dig around, go look for clues. I just found a hidden pocket here (not gonna say where). It was empty, but it was VERY WELL hidden.

Looks like you found the previous owner's doomsday supply.

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