Does any QD (quick detatch) mount have windage adjustment?


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W.E.G.
December 21, 2011, 10:27 AM
I want a windage-adjustable scope base that will attach to a Picatinny rail.

Such thing would appear to not exist.

I've looked for a couple days with no luck.

I'm not asking about QD rings.

I'm asking about the MOUNT.

The mechanical equivalent of this - but with a QD design which would allow me to attach it to a Picatinny rail.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/optics/leupoldbase.jpg

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taliv
December 21, 2011, 10:42 AM
not that i know of, but you could improvise expensively by getting lower USO rings (or other rings with wind adjustment) and putting them on a larue 5/8ths QD riser

rcmodel
December 21, 2011, 03:59 PM
Burris QD Weaver Zee-Rings with Pos-Align Offset Inserts maybe.
http://www.burrisoptics.com/rings1.html#2

http://www.burrisoptics.com/sigrings.html

rc

W.E.G.
December 21, 2011, 07:20 PM
Yeah, I know there are rings that offer some windage adjustment by offset clamping systems using two little bitty screws in the front, and two little bitty screws in the back.

That's no good.

Those rings move left and right 90-degrees to the axis of the scope tube.
The more you work the adjustment the more you bugger your scope.

Here is an exaggerated sketch to demonstrate the reason why I won't use offset rings on my expensive (or even my cheap) scopes.

Viewing the scope from above, as it is mounted on the rifle, the scope tube gets pinched (and damaged) in four places, indicated by red arrows.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/optics/offsetringsscopepinch.jpg

The dings from the pinching would only be driven deeper (and the scope would loosen in the rings) every time the heavy-caliber rifle is fired.

The only viable solution to ensure that the scope is not damaged is to use a cantilever system as is common, and present in the traditional one-piece mount I showed in my OP.

I am very surprised that with all the gee-whiz mounts that are out there now, and are intended for use with a Picatinny rail, that NONE of them offer any windage adjustment.

I've got my windage just about maxxed out on my Leupold VX-II, mounted with Warne QD rings, on my DSA top-cover mount on my FAL.

I'm thinking about mounting a one-piece base as shown in my OP on a simple riser block. Problem is, it would look weird if cobbled-together that way. Probably would work. But I'm not sure I could stand looking at it. Appearance counts, even on practical guns.

Mark Larue... are you listening?

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Taurus44
December 21, 2011, 08:12 PM
The Larue LT111, LT112 and LT158 all offer some cant in the mount. I'm not sure if those will work for you, because I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for (I must be missing something).

rcmodel
December 21, 2011, 09:52 PM
That's no good.
I think you misunderstood the way the Burris Zee-Ring Pos-Align Offset Inserts work.

The inserts turn inside the Zee-Rings.
The scope tube stays alinged with the inserts.
It puts no strain on the scope tube at all.

rc

W.E.G.
December 21, 2011, 11:12 PM
Do you think the Burris "Weaver Style" rings will correctly engage a Picatinny rail?

helotaxi
December 22, 2011, 01:04 AM
Burris QD Weaver Zee-Rings with Pos-Align Offset Inserts maybe.
http://www.burrisoptics.com/rings1.html#2

http://www.burrisoptics.com/sigrings.html

rc

The Zee rings and the Signature Zee rings are two different animals. The QD Zee rings are not Signature rings and don't take the inserts.

The Signature Zee rings offer the adjustment that you want and will work fine on a Piccatinny rail. They are not available in a QD model.

W.E.G.
December 22, 2011, 12:43 PM
Will the "Weaver style" signature Z-rings correctly engage a Picatinny rail?

rcmodel
December 22, 2011, 01:34 PM
Yes.
Or I wouldn't have recommended them in post #2.

Weaver & Picatinny rails are basically the same thing.

The difference is that Weaver will fit Picatinny.

Buy many Picatinny optic mounts will not fit Weaver because the cross bolt diameter is too large to fit the weaver slot.

See this about that:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=12631/GunTechdetail/Picatinny-Rails-Weaver-Rails-What-s-The-Difference-

rc

W.E.G.
December 22, 2011, 04:06 PM
In that case, and seeing as how there seems to be no windage-adjustable picatinny base, I'm thinking the Burris rings might be the only option.

This just bugs me every time I think about it.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/targets/2008-08-18%20-%20DPMS/targetscopeimprovisiation.jpg

Reckon I'll order up a set of Burris rings. after the mails settle down.

I'm not buying anything through the mail until the Post Office coughs up my pistol they lost for a week somewhere between Nashville and New Jersey.

helotaxi
December 22, 2011, 04:35 PM
What base do you have on the rifle right now? If you already have a standard base like the picture in your first post, the Signature rings for that type of base work great and are available. The Signature Zee rings are out of stock everywhere right now with an unknown ETA.

W.E.G.
December 22, 2011, 04:43 PM
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/FAL/varelahamptonrearsight.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/FAL/Hampton-Varela-scope.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/FAL/LeupoldwithWarneQDrings.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/FAL/Warnescoperings.jpg

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