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Joe's
December 22, 2011, 08:08 AM
Got a box of these from Cabelas the other night. Seemed like a fair price but didn't realize there was such a difference between plated and jacketed as far as powder charges go. None of my loading manuals state how much powder to use. Their website only says to use low to medium charges.
Question #1: What powder and charges should be acceptable for this bullet?
Question #2: What is the proper COL for this bullet?

Thanks and have a Very Merry Christmas,
Joe's

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Hangingrock
December 22, 2011, 09:12 AM
Go to Berry’s web site. They have contact section and ask your questions. They’ll reply to your questions. I know this because they’ve replied to questions I had concerning their 200Gr-SWC.

skipsan
December 22, 2011, 09:28 AM
I use 5.0 grns W231 with Berry 200 grn swc. No issues with thousands of rds.
Suggest you use data for lead bullets and stay with the low-moderate loads.

pandc
December 22, 2011, 09:31 AM
I have loaded the Berry 200gr plated for .45 cal the same as 230 gr FMJ with no problem using AA7. 10 grains

Walkalong
December 22, 2011, 10:43 AM
As posted, you can't go wrong with 5.0 Grs W-231.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=6195350&postcount=11

Be patient with the links.

k4swb
December 22, 2011, 11:53 AM
Question #2: What is the proper COL for this bullet?Proper COL is always whatever allows the round to work in the magazine, chamber without jamming the bullet into the rifling and keeps the bullet from falling out of or into the case during the trip.
Any length within those parameters is correct.

Blue68f100
December 22, 2011, 06:48 PM
You can load using Lead Load data, all the way up to mid Jacketed loads. Just need to stay under 1200fps which is not a problem with the 45acp.

I have used WST, WSF and 231. WST is my far the cleanest burning.

Damon555
December 22, 2011, 07:01 PM
I shoot the round nose 200 grain Berry's with 6.5 grains of Unique. Runs my 1911 like a champ.

jfrey
December 22, 2011, 07:47 PM
I shoot that bullet over 6.2 gr Unique and OAL of 1.200 and my 1911's love it. Just stay under 1200 fps and you'll be good.

Walkalong
December 22, 2011, 08:35 PM
When I tried that bullet, I loaded it at 1.200 as well. Worked okay, but I much preferred the Berrys 200 Gr HP over the Berrys 200 Gr RFN, which I also load at 1.200. the HP over the right amount of N310 or N320 shoots outstandingly, and feeds in almost anything.

rfwobbly
December 22, 2011, 08:45 PM
Reading the "FAQs" over at the Berry web site will answer most of your questions.

May I ask, do you have a reloading manual?

Joe's
December 23, 2011, 04:56 AM
rfwobbly,
Yes I do. 6 at last count. None that I have show any data for the plated bullets.
Thank You all for your data. Spoke with a gentleman from Berry's yesterday and he said use 2.200 for a good starting COL. Also recommended a couple of charts with different powders. I think I'll start with 6.0 gr. of Unique and work from there.

Have a Very Merry Christmas
Joe's

Bovice
December 23, 2011, 06:03 AM
As others have stated, .45 ACP velocities are well under the limit for plated bullets. Load it as if it were a standard jacketed bullet.

fehhkk
December 23, 2011, 08:24 AM
Ive used 6.5gr of Unique, with those 200gr. JHP bullets, 1.225" OAL and .470" crimp, and CCI small and large primers with great results.

ambidextrous1
December 23, 2011, 08:59 AM
"Spoke with a gentleman from Berry's yesterday and he said use 2.200".

That has to be a typo; SAAMI maximum is 1.275 inch.

Berry's plated bullets are a quality product, and you shouldn't have any problems when loading .45 ACP. For that round, the main issue for COL is to find the length that functions in all of your pistols; that will probably be in the 1.235 to 1.260 inch range, which is the same length preferred by most .45 ACP reloaders.

I have no experience in reloading for this caliber and bullet weight, but (as others have said), start with data for lead bullets and stay below the values given for mid-range jacketed bullets; seek the best charge weight for accuracy and function.

Joe's
December 23, 2011, 09:49 AM
ambidextrous1,
You are correct. 1.200". Typo!

Have a Very Merry Christmas,
Joe's

k4swb
December 23, 2011, 12:35 PM
I've shot a lot of Berrys 200 gr PFP in all of my .45s and use 1.210" OAL.

Fits my mags, fits all the chambers and is as accurate as I am. I have one gun that has a short chamber and anything much longer with that bullet is too long for it so I just use that length for all of them.

Whatever works for COAL is acceptable.

I wish the books wouldn't print minimum and maximum OAL. They need to tell people how to determine min and max for their guns and explain it is really not a set figure since all guns are slightly different.
What works in one may not work in another and there is a lot more wiggle room than most people think. All data is somewhat adjustable and all interact somewhat with each other. Adjust one and you may need to adjust another to compensate slightly.

The whole reloading process is greatly complicated by some people. Most times too much info is a bad thing when people get bogged down.

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