Crows are SO.....annoying!


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Flintknapper
December 24, 2011, 04:50 PM
Was trying to Deer Hunt this morning…enjoying the quiet solitude of the woods while watching and listening for signs of approaching deer.

A couple of crows decide to fly in and take a break about 80 yds. from my stand. No big deal usually…. but these two kept up a constant raucous Kawing.

Normally.....the slightest movement from anything around them will send them flying away, but NOT these two.

After 10 minutes of non-stop KAW-KAW-KAAAAAWing…..I was seriously thinking about popping one (not the one in the tree of course).

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n92/flintknapper/CrowTempt1.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n92/flintknapper/CrowTempt2.jpg

I know everything has its place in the ecosystem, but tell me again…what are the crows good for? :rolleyes:

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gspn
December 24, 2011, 04:55 PM
Crows crack me up. They get REALLY loud when groups of 10 to 20 fly around you. Ive had them on me for half an hour at times...they are easily the noisiest thing in the woods.

Nice camera shots...what did you use?

sm
December 24, 2011, 05:25 PM
Flintknapper,
This afternoon I had not one, but two crows "blow up" when they hopped in front of a .17 gr V-Max fired from a Savage 93R17.

*wink*

Steve

Flintknapper
December 24, 2011, 05:38 PM
sm wrote:

Flintknapper,
This afternoon I had not one, but two crows "blow up" when they hopped in front of a .17 gr V-Max fired from a Savage 93R17.

Yeah, that was another reason I chose not to shoot. If I'd had a .17 with me...they would have both been turned into a cloud of black feathers, but I had my .458 SOCOM with me.

Its plenty accurate to have made the shot...but a 300 grain bullet somehow seems unnecessary. ;)


http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n92/flintknapper/458a.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n92/flintknapper/458d.jpg

gspn
December 24, 2011, 05:41 PM
Yeah...that's a lot of gun for a crow...

Flintknapper
December 24, 2011, 05:43 PM
gspn wrote:

Crows crack me up. They get REALLY loud when groups of 10 to 20 fly around you. Ive had them on me for half an hour at times...they are easily the noisiest thing in the woods.

Yes, if you've ever been around a group when they find an Owl or a Hawk...they will swarm it... forcing it to seek refuge in a tree.

Then they attempt to keep it at bay by dive bombing it and the racket they make is deafening.

Not very classy birds. :(

gspn
December 24, 2011, 05:49 PM
Beautiful gun by the way...

Liberty1776
December 24, 2011, 08:38 PM
ok Mr. Flintknapper sir... that is a way cool deer and hog gun...

Flintknapper
December 24, 2011, 10:30 PM
All I know is those crows had better not be there tomorrow morning.

I have some 100 grain Lehigh aluminum bullets loaded up that leave the muzzle at close to 2800 fps.

.458 diameter and over an inch long...would pretty much "wreck" a crow.

Then again, a 500 grain Hornady (subsonic) would work too. Hmmmm....decisions, decisions....!

Hopefully any crows that show up won't stay long...or at least be quiet. I've never had crows basically ignore my efforts to scare them off.

amd6547
December 25, 2011, 12:06 AM
Crow is a messenger of God...
Crow may communicate to you through leaving feathers for you to find.
These serve as a reminder of your connection to spirit or that it is time for you to be still to enable a message from spirit to come through.
When a crow is shrieking check that there is not something dangerous in the area as this is their way of warning you and other animals
They may also shriek while you are thinking about a certain area of your life so as to draw attention to it

o Unforgiven o
December 25, 2011, 01:31 AM
Crow is a messenger of God...
Crow may communicate to you through leaving feathers for you to find.
These serve as a reminder of your connection to spirit or that it is time for you to be still to enable a message from spirit to come through.
When a crow is shrieking check that there is not something dangerous in the area as this is their way of warning you and other animals
They may also shriek while you are thinking about a certain area of your life so as to draw attention to it

Uhh... :uhoh:


Flintknapper, I feel your pain. This year duck hunting we were on the edge of a lake and 5-10 crows up in a small stand of pines would not shut up. Only bagged one small wood duck that morning. :fire: He was however banded so that was nice, but I am still cursing those crows.

Sav .250
December 25, 2011, 09:12 AM
Crows are part of the woods-crew. Don`t bother me in the least. :)

Black Butte
December 25, 2011, 12:51 PM
Flintknapper,
This afternoon I had not one, but two crows "blow up" when they hopped in front of a .17 gr V-Max fired from a Savage 93R17.

*wink*

Steve

I bet the crows were awe-struck by your sniping prowess.

*wink*

rcmodel
December 25, 2011, 01:00 PM
I seriously doubt a deer pays much attention to crows.

It's just another normal sound in the woods they hear constantly.

Now a .458 SOCOM going off to kill a crow?
They might notice that, a lot.

I'd let the crows be if I was deer hunting.

rc

redneck2
December 25, 2011, 03:04 PM
Crow hunting is maybe the most fun of any hunting you can do. A good electronic makes it easier, though a mouth call will do.

Set up, wait a few minutes, then fire off the caller. Within a minute or so you'll have plenty to shoot.

Fills the gap between deer and summer varmints.

Flintknapper....really nice pix. What camera??

Flintknapper
December 25, 2011, 04:54 PM
No crows this morning (thank goodness), got to enjoy my time in the woods. :D

Not a lot of deer movement…but nice peaceful experience and scenery. :)

Just watched a few deer feed for a while before moving off into in the brush.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n92/flintknapper/Deer1.jpg

Flintknapper
December 25, 2011, 05:07 PM
redneck2 wrote:

What camera??

Nothing fancy, whenever I go to the woods...I grab up my Canon S5IS.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/canon/powershot-s5-is/canon-powershot-s5-is-review.html#b

Its small enough to fit in a large pocket...but is full featured.

Just don't get it wet....they WILL lock up!

Flintknapper
December 25, 2011, 05:16 PM
rcmodel wrote:

I seriously doubt a deer pays much attention to crows.
Exactly right, except to react to an alarm call....deer pay no attention to them.

It's just another normal sound in the woods they hear constantly.
Right, and I didn't mean to imply that the crows in any way bother the deer, its ME...that doesn't want to listen to a constant (loud) Kaw...Kawing. The deer couldn't care less.

Now a .458 SOCOM going off to kill a crow?
They might notice that, a lot.
Yes, it makes a real distinctive sound. ;)

I'd let the crows be if I was deer hunting.
Agreed and I did.....I just don't like them much. I suspect they don't care for me either. :D

redneck2
December 25, 2011, 07:07 PM
I suspect they don't care for me eitherYeah, but you have the gun.

I also use a SOCOM for deer. One of the limited rifle calibers that is legal here. Works particularly well on deer. Love to try it on a hog.

T Bran
December 25, 2011, 07:26 PM
Many times I watch the area the crows are working if they are playing leapfrog it is often a deer or hog that they are following. I have seen many critters thanks to the crows. While some folks hate them I see them as another set of eyes.
Troy

kbbailey
December 26, 2011, 07:46 PM
Flintknapper,

beautiful rifle.....somehow I was expecting a flintlock, but I'm not disappointed.

Flintknapper
December 26, 2011, 11:44 PM
No flintlocks Bailey.

Actually archery is my first love (always has been). I have taken most of my animals with traditional gear (recurve or longbow). But in the last 5 years...due to a shoulder injury, I've been forced to take up firearms more.

That particular rifle was purpose built for Feral Hogs...but I use it for deer sometimes as well.

Never even shot a flintlock, but they are beautiful rifles IMO.

303tom
December 26, 2011, 11:53 PM
I HATE Crows.............

Flintknapper
December 27, 2011, 12:53 AM
^^^^^^^^+1

They really have few redeeming qualities.

IH8CROWS........there's a license plate for ya. ;)

303tom
December 27, 2011, 09:38 AM
^^^^^^^^+1

They really have few redeeming qualities.

IH8CROWS........there's a license plate for ya. ;)
To many digits, we can only have 6 in MO.

BIGR
December 27, 2011, 05:30 PM
Nice pictures Flintknapper . Heck you still have leaves on the trees there?

Flintknapper
December 27, 2011, 11:13 PM
Yes, the leaves have finally turned colors and are dropping...but it will be mid-January before our trees are anything like "naked".

Forecast tomorrow (here) is about 60° F. for the high. I often work up a sweat walking to my stand...only to freeze later when the sun goes down if I stay a few hours waiting on hogs.

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
December 29, 2011, 02:19 AM
LOL poor Flint, you would freeze to death in what I call comfortable! Anything above 45* and I am sweating like a Thoroughbred after a derby race! I swear I am going to have to fatten you and H&H up a bit before I take you 2 on Northern hunting adventures! Get a little insolation. But then again, you 2 and TexasPatriot are probably going to cook me alive when I come down for hog killing!

Buckwacker
December 29, 2011, 07:35 PM
I have had crows help locate deer kills on more than one occasion. Last year I shot a doe and it ran about 75 yards before expiring out of my line of sight. In less than half an hour, several crows flew in and called to others from both the ground and from trees. After my 30 minute wait time, I was able to follow the crows right to the kill.

kbbailey
December 29, 2011, 11:39 PM
Never even shot a flintlock,

oh well....It is time, especially if you are a recurve hunter. Black powder is to firearms as recurve is to archery.

Flintknapper
December 29, 2011, 11:42 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^
I haven't had the same kind of luck with crows and deer.

But I DO have this experience: About 20 years ago I had shot a buck and field dressed it right where it fell. I wiped my hands off in the grass before getting a towel from my truck, loaded up the deer and headed for home.

Once home...I noticed my wedding ring was missing! (EEEEK!). It had always fit a little bit loose and apparently when I wiped my hands in the grass it came off. Sheer terror came over me...imagining how I would explain this to my wife.:uhoh:

I hurried back to the spot where the gut pile was...only to discover a big pack of crows on the ground around it. They all flew off as I approached. I searched every square inch of an 8 foot circle looking for my ring, but it was no where to be found.

Wanna bet what happened to it? I know one of those sharp eyed crows spotted my gold wedding band and made off with it. I returned later in the day with a metal detector (borrowed) and couldn't turn it up.

Crow got it...I am sure. So...if there weren't already reasons to not like them...me and crows have "history". :mad:

BIGR
December 30, 2011, 07:43 PM
I don't doubt that, about the crows getting the ring. They probably like shiny things and one of them took to his nest. The one that got it traded it for two road kills and some corn. That was not funny.

Crows are about as smart as they come when talking about birds.

I hate them they eat my corn.

Bobson
December 31, 2011, 02:30 PM
Have you tried hanging a few owls around, OP?

Maybe something like this (http://www.nextag.com/DALEN-Gardeneer-Owl-63422510/prices-html). My parents hate crows too, so they hung two of these types of fake owls a few hundred yards apart of either side of the house, and now they never see or hear crows near their land.

Sky
December 31, 2011, 03:11 PM
I was really to young to remember all the particulars but if I remember right I had a cousin who had stole a Crow from a nest. He had cared for the bird and the thing could talk. I do not remember if he had the Crow's tongue split by a vet??; but talk it could. A poor man's Parrot who would ride on his shoulder and even clean his ears for him!!

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=598097 is a thread I posted long ago dealing with pay back and Crows. Maybe you will like.....I did

Miss direction and using the buddy system works especially in a hazardous situation.

This came from a gent who runs a 2000 acre corn farm up around Barron, Wi., not far from Oshkosh. He used to fly F-4Es and F-16s for the Guard and participated in the first Gulf War.

His story:


“I went out to plant corn for a bit to finish a field before tomorrow morning and witnessed The Great Battle . A golden eagle - big, with about a six foot wingspan - flew right in front of the tractor. It was being chased by three crows that were continually dive bombing it and pecking at it. The crows do this because the eagles rob their nests when they find them.
At any rate, the eagle banked hard right in one evasive maneuver, then landed in the field about 100 feet from the tractor. This eagle stood about 3 feet tall. The crows all landed too, and took up positions around the eagle at 120 degrees apart, but kept their distance at about 20 feet from the big bird. The eagle would take a couple steps towards one of the crows and they'd hop backwards and forward to keep their distance. Then the reinforcement showed up.
I happened to spot the eagle's mate hurtling down out of the sky at what appeared to be approximately Mach 1.5. Just before impact the eagle on the ground took flight, (obviously a coordinated tactic; probably pre-briefed) and the three crows which were watching the grounded eagle, also took flight thinking they were going to get in some more pecking on the big bird.
The first crow being targeted by the diving eagle never stood a snowball's chance in hell. There was a mid-air explosion of black feathers and that crow was done. The diving eagle then banked hard left in what had to be a 9G climbing turn, using the energy it had accumulated in the dive, and hit crow #2 less than two seconds later. Another crow dead.
The grounded eagle, which was now airborne and had an altitude advantage on the remaining crow, which was streaking eastward in full burner, made a short dive then banked hard right when the escaping crow tried to evade the hit. It didn't work - crow #3 bit the dust at about 20 feet AGL.
This aerial battle was better than any air show I've been to, including the war birds show at Oshkosh . The two eagles ripped the crows apart and ate them on the ground, and as I got closer and closer working my way across the field, I passed within 20 feet of one of them as it ate its catch. It stopped and looked at me as I went by and you could see in the look of that bird that it knew who's Boss Of The Sky. What a beautiful bird!
I loved it. Not only did they kill their enemy, they ate them! One of the best Fighter Pilot stories I've seen in a long time.....There are no noble wars----Only noble warriors.

Eagles 3, Crows 0

buck460XVR
December 31, 2011, 03:44 PM
Ahhhhh, Crows. Many has been the time when one has made a random call only to shock a tom into gobbling and letting me know he was there. Many has been the time when a unfortunate crow coming into my "made in my own mouth" call has turned a bad day bird hunting into a one shot/one kill day.:D

Crows ain't so bad. It's them dam Blue-Jays that I can't stand. Don't know how many times I thought I saw the white flick of a ear or the twitch of a tail, only to have it followed by the familiar blur of blue and the shriek that they know I'm there. Seems they enjoy letting the forest world know that all is not right and that an intruder is close. Almost as bad as those dam pine squirrels........

dirtengineer
December 31, 2011, 04:14 PM
Maybe bring a .22 pistol with you next time.

sgtstryker
January 1, 2012, 02:07 PM
Crows are very intelligent, they just happen to be a predator bird. I like to help out their prey with my Savage in .17 HMR.

Zombiphobia
January 3, 2012, 01:33 AM
actually crows are considered a spiritual creature and are good for warning everything in the woods about a dangerous presence. Besides that their 'duty' as an animal is to be a scavenger; a janitor to clean up other dead animals. Bout the same as a vulture or buzzard.

If it's legal in your area, a recorded crow and hawk/owl fight will bring them in in droves, including the hawks and owls in the area if they can hear it.

And yes, they are attracted to shiny objects and will decorate their nests with them.

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