Sig P250 exchange or keep?


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Kyl3
December 25, 2011, 06:38 PM
First of all Merry Christmas to all you guys.

My dad stopped by today and for Christmas he got me a Sig P250C 40 S&W, with night sights, 3 magazines, and an extra 357 SIG barrel. He said he was at our local shop and he really liked it, so he picked it up for me. However, he said that he made sure the guy would accept it back for a full refund if I didn't fire it, and wanted to exchange it. I like the look and feel of the gun, however, I will be going Tuesday to see if the full size model fits my hand better. Do you guys think this is a good model and I should stick with it? Or swap it out for some other handgun? I am mostly looking for a full size .40 or .45 handgun, and I don't have any experience with this gun or any other Sig.

Thank you.
Merry Christmas again! :)

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miles1
December 25, 2011, 07:12 PM
I have very limited experience with any 40 S&W caliber but if your looking for a full size 45 ACP then might i suggest looking at a glock 21 gen 3,smith M&P45,or my current favorite XD45.All three are very reliable and are good shooters IMHO.

WinThePennant
December 25, 2011, 11:10 PM
I own a P250 (Full-size, 9mm).

I really like mine. But, the gun has its detractors primarily due to the DAO trigger. You should be able to dry fire it and see how well you like the trigger.

Mine has been 100% reliable. The early edition (presumably, yours is the Gen 2) had some issues, but those are in the past.

If you decide to trade it in for another gun, then you'll probably have to pony up some more dough. The P250 is a very affordable gun. New is typically between $360 and $400. Prices can be higher depending on options and configurations.

Kyl3
December 25, 2011, 11:27 PM
I do really like the gun, and I've heard some great things about Sig, I'm just trying to decide if it would be worth dropping the extra money for a Glock, Springfield xd, Beretta px4, etc.

flatlander937
December 25, 2011, 11:45 PM
Last weekend when I went to the range I was renting an FNP9(DA/SA), and another fellow was shooting a brand new P250 in 9mm(DAO as you already know).

The FNP I could manage to shoot pretty well... even after the rear sight had started drifting to the right once I caught it(:rolleyes:). The Sig I was lucky to get 60% of my shots anywhere within 12" of what I was trying to hit at 30ft.

I'm sure a LOT of it has to do with the fact that I'm still pretty new in general, and am used my 1911's trigger... but the trigger pull on that P250 was just downright terrible and it was not a good weapon for -me-.

A Sig P250 was actually one of the guns that I thought I had wanted to buy eventually, which is why I jumped at the chance to fire it... but after holding it and trying to shoot it, I figured out that it wouldn't be a good fit for me.

WinThePennant
December 26, 2011, 12:08 AM
Last weekend when I went to the range I was renting an FNP9(DA/SA), and another fellow was shooting a brand new P250 in 9mm(DAO as you already know).

The FNP I could manage to shoot pretty well... even after the rear sight had started drifting to the right once I caught it(:rolleyes:). The Sig I was lucky to get 60% of my shots anywhere within 12" of what I was trying to hit at 30ft.

I'm sure a LOT of it has to do with the fact that I'm still pretty new in general, and am used my 1911's trigger... but the trigger pull on that P250 was just downright terrible and it was not a good weapon for -me-.

A Sig P250 was actually one of the guns that I thought I had wanted to buy eventually, which is why I jumped at the chance to fire it... but after holding it and trying to shoot it, I figured out that it wouldn't be a good fit for me.
You were most likely 'jerking' the trigger. I'm 99% sure of it, especially since you are used to a SA 1911 trigger.

People say they hate the trigger, but the truth is that the Sig P250 has probably the best DAO trigger available. DAO is an acquired taste, that is for sure. If you don't like the P250 trigger, then you're really saying that you don't like DAO triggers at all.

Highcaliber
December 26, 2011, 12:08 AM
Merry Christmas fellow shooters.

As mentioned above, you would need to add a little more money to try another gun model. I am a Sig fan but do not like the architecture of the Sig 250. That includes the trigger. You might try a p220 Carry, or a base model p226 or p229.

Also if you are looking at polymer pistols only, the FNP, Beretta PX4, or any XD or XDM would be a better choice than the Sig 250. IMHO.

Kyl3
December 26, 2011, 12:59 AM
I see. What makes the XD, Px4, and others greater and more expensive than the P250? Anything in particular besides the trigger pull?

Mike J
December 26, 2011, 01:21 AM
Kyl3 is there anywhere near you that might rent the Sig 250? If there is it might be well worth your while to pay the range rental fee & put a box of ammunition through one to see if you could live with it or not. You could also rent anything else there that might interest you. People here can share their opinions/experience with you but you are the one that will have to make your own decision.

Highcaliber
December 26, 2011, 03:49 AM
What makes the XD, Px4, and others greater and more expensive than the P250? Anything in particular besides the trigger pull?

One reason the Sig250 is less money is because there are fewer total parts in the modular fire control / trigger group asbly design. This design is a new approach for Sig and I am not a fan of the design. But that's just me.

The Xd seems to be a more robust "old world" design. Like other Sig offerings, for example ( P220, P226. P229, P239 ) Designs leaning towards over-engineered with more "backbone" which can be a good thing but it requires more parts and systems, labor, etc.

The Px4 is a rotating barrel locked breech design that tends to dampen felt recoil by siphoning off recoil forces in a twisting motion rather than all rearward. Some people hate the way it looks, while others love it. It tends to fit your hand like a melted bar of soap. The "Look" of the Beretta PX4 Storm was designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro. He's the Italian designer that has put the distinctive touches on a number of automobiles including the Lamborghini and Maserati.

ElCid
December 26, 2011, 12:41 PM
I have the P250 40. The set up I have is called a "2 SUM" which is a full size grip module and sub-compact grip module with and barrel and slide assembly for each size. You have the compact grip module (which is the size between full size and subcompact) and you mentioned trying the full size before making a decision to keep or swap. Somebody suggested renting a full size and firing it first, good idea. The one thing that attracted me to the P250 is the fact it is modular and from a single platform can have multiple configurations. In your case, you could get your full size grip module for the P250 you already have. I would consider getting a full size or subcompact grip module for the P250, use the larger grip module and 40 S&W barrel primarily for the range (ammo is cheaper) and the smaller grip module and 357 for a carry set up. The DAO trigger is my personal preference for a carry configuration. I have put a few hundred rounds through my P250, no mechanical problems at all. Overall I enjoy the P250 and being a "gadget guy" I like the versatility of platforms.... My 2 cents.

flatlander937
December 26, 2011, 11:07 PM
You were most likely 'jerking' the trigger. I'm 99% sure of it, especially since you are used to a SA 1911 trigger.

People say they hate the trigger, but the truth is that the Sig P250 has probably the best DAO trigger available. DAO is an acquired taste, that is for sure. If you don't like the P250 trigger, then you're really saying that you don't like DAO triggers at all.

I'm sure I was, and I agree I'm spoiled by my 1911 trigger:evil:


Like I said in my original post, I think it was almost entirely my own fault, and just doesn't work well for me... or won't work without a lot of range time with one.

mgmorden
December 27, 2011, 12:40 AM
My opinion: keep it. I'm not even that big a fan of DAO hammer guns, but to me a gift is a gift. It's a gun your dad bought you. Take it back and exchange it and in 20 years whatever you have bought has no sentimental value.

If you really want a Glock, XD, etc, then save up a bit and buy one later. The P250 will do fine in the meantime even if its your only handgun, and when the day comes that you have others it'll still be something to pull out and shoot every now and then.

Storm
December 27, 2011, 12:56 PM
The P250 for most folks takes some work to get used to the trigger. The secret is a smooth straight pull all the way through. Staging the trigger is the kiss of death. To minimize the jerking aspect, the most common mistake often resulting in low left shot placement, place a coin on the front sight and dry fire. Once you can keep the coin from falling off consistently you will have learned some of the skills to master the gun.

Based upon my experiences, owning four P250, I would keep the gun. The only change that I would consider might be caliber and size. I really like the full size in this pistol and have converted a 9mm Subcompact to a 45 Full for that very reason.

There is a significant amount of naysayers for this gun. When you weed out those who have never actually shot one or have spent very little time behind one, polymer haters, and the SIG purists who would never consider one, you are pretty much left with those who have issues with the DAO trigger as it isn't their thing, which to me is the single most significant and reasonable objection. The trigger takes work. There are rewards to be had in the effort.

BTW, if you see the usual trotting out of the BATF trials and their rejection of the gun, that is now ancient history the early issues having been ironed out.

Kyl3
December 27, 2011, 11:58 PM
Thanks for all the replies guys. I really appreciate it. I checked with the local range to see if they had a P250 for rental, but they did not. The local store where the gun was purchased also did not have the full size P250. So tomorrow I will be making a trip down to Gander Mountain to try it out. I think I will be keeping the P250 though, whether it be full size or compact.

HammerheadSSN663
December 28, 2011, 09:24 PM
Put it this way, I sold my P229 9mm and am now carrying only the P250 subcompact 9mm.

I love the SMOOTH(est) revolver trigger EVER on a semi.

Easiest semi I've ever shot and I've owned most.

Plus it hold 13 rounds in subcompact!

WhistlinDixie
December 28, 2011, 11:08 PM
I put two mags through a friend's full size 250 in 9mm and was less than impressed. Were I to be given that pistol, I would try my best to exchange it without hurt feelings. I much prefer the M&P and Glock platforms (in plastic pistols). However, I have small hands, so that could be most of my problem with the sig. I could live with the trigger, and all my shots were on the paper, but it wasn't something I'd buy.

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