Does your LGS charge MSRP?


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Scuba_Steve
December 28, 2011, 07:35 PM
I'm curious if your local Gun Shop charges MSRP or if you pay MSRP. I realize there are many internet options and have bought several guns from Buds and other online dealers.

I also like to supoprt my LGS and stopped in today to look at one during my lunch hour. Basically all their guns are marked at MSRP and when I asked how much room available for price negotation, the sales person looked shocked. He said usually the marked price is what they want but he could ask the manager. He then came back and said the manager is too busy helping other customers and I should come back when they are not so busy.

Keep in mind, I never mentioned a price, just what room is available for negotiation. I wasn't looking for internet prices, I was even willing to settle for a few range passes.

What are your local experiences?

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Loosedhorse
December 28, 2011, 07:44 PM
Not to me! :D

Unless your FFL can't keep the gun in stock, there's alway room for negotiation. Whether there's willingness is different.

wrangler708
December 28, 2011, 07:47 PM
[H] ?

All of mine here in San Antonio charge msrp or higher and feign the same shocked look when u ask to deal.

Arkansas Paul
December 28, 2011, 07:49 PM
I would NEVER pay MSRP for a new gun. I would just buy used first.
We have a really good one close by though. For example, MSRP on a new Ruger Blackhawk is $575 according to the Ruger website. I picked mine up for $449 brand new. I was out the door for less than $500 with the gun and a holster. I didn't try and talk them down either. The $449 is what was on the sticker. They usually won't negotiate with new stuff, because they're so much under suggested retail as it is. On used stuff, it depends on how long it's been in the case. If they just got it, prolly won't, but if it's been there a month, you can get a deal. Great place.

almherdfan
December 28, 2011, 07:54 PM
Not in my neck of the woods, unless the weapon is in very high demand. Usually, the LGS is a few bucks higher then most internet options, but there is no transfer fee or shipping. Some stores are more flexible then others. My favorite always has a few extras thrown in--after we negotiated a price on the gun.

Nushif
December 28, 2011, 08:01 PM
They don't usually change their price but will more often than not throw in the background check and maybe some goodies.

Carl N. Brown
December 28, 2011, 08:03 PM
MSRP (manufacturer's suggested retail price) is treated as maximum suggested retail price by local gun shops around here. New gun is usually somewhere between distributor's wholesale and the MSRP. Especially with outfits like Walmart and Dick's charging prices close to wholesale.

Willfully Armed
December 28, 2011, 08:20 PM
Anyone who lists a gun for sale at msrp or above, only survives due to the ignorance of the uneducated.

We have a range in the KC Metro that deals guns. Their prices are ridiculous. I once asked if they could do better on a price. They took $30 off the price tag which left it 20% higher than other local shops.

I've never been back.

Vaarok
December 28, 2011, 08:22 PM
Who buys new guns?

ms6852
December 28, 2011, 08:44 PM
I have dealt on several occasions with the lgs her in San Antonio and have been treated right by them. This particular place I go too just recently sold me the predator pursuit RRA rifle for $1185. Because it was the display model they threw in 100 rds of ammo and gave me a set of Warne rings for my scope which they mounted and zereod for free. Their prices may be higher than other places on the internet but when you figure ffl fees and shipping it comes out a lot cheaper. I also love the security I get should something go wrong with the weapon they will take care of it.

UpTheIrons
December 28, 2011, 08:45 PM
My FFL (works out of his house, no storefront, except at gun shows) is quite competitive. I usually get my guns from Davidson's through him, but I've also bought through Bud's and had some transfers done.

My real-live brick-and-mortar LGS, which I go to occasionally, doesn't sell at MSRP either.

essayons21
December 28, 2011, 08:49 PM
Way too many gun shops around here for them to charge MSRP. Not to mention a gun show a month at least. Bass Pro and Gander Mountain usually have the worst prices, and even they are usually under MSRP. Sometimes you can actually get a decent deal when they are running a sale.

Scuba_Steve
December 28, 2011, 08:56 PM
Responses here reflect my experiences as well. It doesn't matter to me what the LGS sells guns for, but I won't pay MSRP and have no sympathy when they respond with "buy local". I will pay more for local, I will not pay MSRP.

In all fairness, without getting into details, this firearm is newly back on the market from the manufacturer and many dealers are waiting to get them. However, the demand is also a focused small group of buyers.

This firearm has been on the LGS shops shelf for a few months and if they throw me a bone on my next visit, I'll buy it, if not I'll wait 6 months and save $300.

InkEd
December 28, 2011, 09:02 PM
Unless there is a long waiting list for a gun, you would be crazy to pay MSRP on a firearm.

KansasPaul
December 28, 2011, 09:21 PM
My nearest gun shop charges every bit of MSRP but will discount a few bucks for a "cash" sale. There is a small gun shop about 30 miles from home and they will charge their cost plus 10% on any new order. However, I almost exclusively buy used guns from internet sites.

Mainsail
December 28, 2011, 09:33 PM
My LGS charges a standard mark-up from their price, although I don't know what it is, it isn't much. The best example is the KelTec RFB they sold me about a year and a half ago. Although they were selling on gunbroker for $2,000 or more, I paid $1250.

rule303
December 28, 2011, 09:34 PM
I am the LGS, and I would go hungry trying to get peolple to pay MSRP around here! Maybe on a brand new, hard to get gun, sure. Not your average run of the mill item you can get from the other guy at half the price. How many cars would a dealership sell at MSRP?

Boatsman
December 28, 2011, 09:35 PM
No, always higher, thank God for places like Buds. I have bought numerous times from them and never had a problem. My experience with Gander was better than buying from my LGS, they had better selection at a better price if you shopped the deals.

bergmen
December 28, 2011, 09:50 PM
The largest gun shop here in town charges MSRP or more. Glocks are at least $50.00 over MSRP. I just window shop there although I have bought rifles there when I couldn't find them anywhere else or any cheaper.

The gunshop I do most of my business with is a 45 minute drive away but the common response from him is "here is the listed price but I can beat that by $100.00, how's that sound?"

Works for me.

Dan

oneounceload
December 28, 2011, 09:56 PM
All of mine here in San Antonio charge msrp or higher and feign the same shocked look when u ask to deal.

Same here in FL, except for a small guy who has very little on the shelf, but can get anything, AND beat Bid's prices, even with sales tax - all the major stores are at MSRP and higher

mdauben
December 28, 2011, 10:24 PM
The biggest LGS to me generally sells stuff at near internet prices. When you take into account shipping its pretty much a wash. While I would be willing to pay a bit more than "internet retail" for my guns (for the convenience of dealing locally with one person, and to support my local business) I would never pay MSRP and if the LGS was selling guns for that much it would drive me to other sources.

Honestly, given the easy access to internet gun retailers, I don't understand how any shop can stay in business charging MSRP. :confused:

mgmorden
December 28, 2011, 10:43 PM
One of the local shops around here actually charges more than MSRP - a lot more.

Everything in there is priced ridiculously, but 2 examples that I mentally noted were a Kel-tec PF9 marked $375 and a Hi-Point C9 marked $249. No clue how negotiable they are - I personally hate haggling and even when I grit my teeth and do it I'm not gonna even bother starting THAT high over what I'd actually expect to pay. They have a good indoor range though that's $5 per day to shoot as much as you want, so I end up over there a lot anyways.

If you're patient then you can find some good deals in the local pawn shops. That's not so much them being reasonable as it is a weekly check to see if they've got something in that they aren't familiar with and have undervalued it. As can be expected though, there's only used guns there, and even though I've bought numerous guns from the local pawn shops most probably think I'm just a window shopper. I stop in at least once per week, glance over the handgun case, and 99% of the time walk right back out. I only chat them up if I see something that caught my eye.

The other shops in the area are a toss up. There's one thats actually closest to my house that I nearly never go to. No range to bring me in, and though its closest to my house, it's in the opposite direction from work, and they have limited weekend hours, so its hard to get to. From what I've seen though, they're pretty overpriced there too. Not the the same extreme, but still a good 20-25% over what I'd pay online. Another has a shop owner/gunsmith that is so old and grumpy that I don't care how cheap his stuff was I'd never shop there.

There's another shop I've started keeping an eye on lately too. Its mostly a gunsmithing operation - last time I was in there they literally only had SEVEN guns on the shelf - but for the most part what they do have is priced well. Exception there is that they did have a Rossi .270 in there for $1200. The stock was fully and extensively custom engraved which honestly looked nice, but at the end of the day you're still talking about a Rossi. The value on that though is subjective, so I'll pass no judgement on them for that. :)

There's two other FFL's in the area that I deal with occasionally too. One is a gunsmith that works out of his home. He carries no inventory but will do custom work and/or full gun builds (or transfers for online sales) and is very well regarded amongst the local competition shooters. The other FFL does transfers only except for some Dura-coat work. I generally make all my new-gun purchases online and transfer them through him, as he only charges $15 per gun (and I've seen him advertise "sales" where he'll do $10 per gun if you mention the ad, though I've never bothered there - $15 is low enough as it is).

Jeff H
December 28, 2011, 11:02 PM
They don't usually change their price but will more often than not throw in the background check and maybe some goodies.

Some shops actually charge for the NICS check???? Wow, just wow!

cooldude14
December 28, 2011, 11:13 PM
One close to me does, and they are pretty rude

Hanzo581
December 28, 2011, 11:15 PM
Most in my area do not. One does but I would never ever ever pay MSRP for a firearm. Then again I try not to buy anything at full retail price.

Fanky
December 29, 2011, 12:23 AM
Mine charges nowhere near MSRP... He actually got a "nice" letter from Glock or a distributor, I can't recall, when he had a sale going that was actually below MAP. Had to change all the price tags from the below MAP price to "too low to show" :D

zombie44
December 29, 2011, 02:57 AM
I rarely shop for new guns, but the last one I was close to buying was the Ruger 1911. Most of my LGSs had it for $620-$649 when it first came out but heard in other parts of the country shops were actually selling them at MSRP ($799??) :what:

RevDerb
December 29, 2011, 07:10 AM
I have a half dozen firearms retailers within 50 miles from me and if any of them came close to MSRP, they wouldn't be on my radar. Most charge 10% above their cost. Of course, each one's cost varies depending on their size.

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