Great news story: Victim shoots suspect during Akron craigslist robbery


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flatlander937
December 29, 2011, 06:40 PM
I saw this on the local news channel 7, but couldn't find it on their website? But here is the same basic story with the same video coverage that I saw on TV:

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/akron_canton_news/xbox-being-sold-on-craigslist-leads-to-akron-man-robbed-at-gunpoint


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lowerunit411
December 29, 2011, 06:49 PM
he is a Marine

flatlander937
December 29, 2011, 06:54 PM
Ha, I didn't catch that.

BTW - what kind of gun is that? I don't recognize it off the top of my head.

Pflum
December 29, 2011, 07:04 PM
Looks like Hi-Point

moonman16
December 29, 2011, 07:46 PM
They were charged (2) as 1 is still on the loose, with armed robbery and possession of a COUNTERFEIT DRUG (Crack Rock or Rocks). Fake drugs for sale or packaged for sale a NO-NO here.

heeler
December 29, 2011, 09:18 PM
What a scary bunch of losers.
I am not trying to criticise the shooter but why on earth would you allow someone you did not know into the security of your own home??
Another question I have is did the other two guys come in through an unlocked door or did they just brute force their way in??
At least he had the very good sense to have a powerful pistol on hand AND have the fortitude to use it even when the chips were down and things were not looking at all to good.
Had he not did what he did they might have killed him to eliminate a witness.

flatlander937
December 29, 2011, 09:46 PM
What a scary bunch of losers.
I am not trying to criticise the shooter but why on earth would you allow someone you did not know into the security of your own home??
Another question I have is did the other two guys come in through an unlocked door or did they just brute force their way in??
At least he had the very good sense to have a powerful pistol on hand AND have the fortitude to use it even when the chips were down and things were not looking at all to good.
Had he not did what he did they might have killed him to eliminate a witness.

Agreed... though I remember hearing on the channel 7 news(www.whio.com is the site... though I cannot find the story on there?:cuss:) that they basically said that either all 3 guys showed up at once or something to that effect... I don't know what's true, the thing about the guy making a phone call was by the reporter, not the victim.

So that may or may not be correct... there was another good video featuring the Vandalia Range and Armory... talking about how gun sales are at an all time high, and they basically showed about 2 minutes of how women are buying guns for personal protection and even showed some families spending time at the range... good stuff!

http://www.whiotv.com/videos/news/vandalia-gun-sales-up-especially-to-women/vFdM7/

fast eddie
December 30, 2011, 03:02 AM
Just goes to show how difficult it can be to hit a target even at close distances when under stress.

Metal Tiger
December 30, 2011, 04:20 AM
Smart Marine for carrying a .45 ACP rather than the 9mm issue. Correct me here but I do not think the .45 is standard issue in the Semper Fi group.

Just looked it up:
The M9 Beretta semi-automatic, double-action pistol is the standard Marine Corps sidearm.

• Magazine holds 15 NATO-standard 9mm rounds
• Weighs 2.55 lb. fully loaded

o Unforgiven o
December 30, 2011, 07:45 AM
Smart Marine for carrying a .45 ACP rather than the 9mm issue. Correct me here but I do not think the .45 is standard issue in the Semper Fi group.

Just looked it up:
The M9 Beretta semi-automatic, double-action pistol is the standard Marine Corps sidearm.

• Magazine holds 15 NATO-standard 9mm rounds
• Weighs 2.55 lb. fully loaded
Can we not go here...I am sure the 9mm would gone through the guys elbow just fine, and still make it a bad day to be a door frame.

JohnKSa
December 30, 2011, 08:02 AM
Smart Marine for carrying a .45 ACP rather than the 9mm issue. Correct me here but I do not think the .45 is standard issue in the Semper Fi group.SERIOUSLY????

1. You really believe that a person needs a .45ACP to shoot a hole in someone's elbow?

2. Whether he did or didn't use the issue weapon for the Marines is neither here nor there. They don't let the military take their issue weapons home so the fact that he wasn't using one means nothing.At least he had the very good sense to have a powerful pistol on hand...The power of the pistol has nothing to do with this particular situation.

Unless you're claiming that the robbers read the caliber markings on the pistol or examined the bore diameter to determine how effective the pistol was going to be? Or maybe they were so experienced with firearms that they were able to determine the power of the pistol based purely on the sound of the reports--and that's what made them flee? Or perhaps the guy who took a round in the elbow told his buddies that it was a .45ACP based on the impact and that's when they decided that they should turn tail.

Come on...

This may not be EXACTLY what happened, but you can bet it's very close.

The guy pulled out the gun and at the sight of a firearm, everyone at the scene but him turned inside out, desperately trying to be somewhere else instantly. They were all moving so fast that the victim could only get a couple of shots off and was only able to score one peripheral hit before they were out the door.

Just to be clear, I'd say that it makes good sense to have a powerful pistol on hand (whatever your definition of powerful is) but in this particular case, it sounds like the caliber/power of the weapon involved had just about zero to do with the outcome.

Lex Luthier
December 30, 2011, 08:47 AM
I am sure that many of us here utilize Craigs List. I take a few minutes on the phone and get a feel for the guy I am dealing with, and balk if the deal must transpire in certain areae in North Minneapolis or similar environs of iniquity, or are inhabited by feral youth. I have also bought firearms from armslist in this same manner, after establishing that the seller is serious, and the BS factor is minimized. CC security is paramount, and remaining in contact with someone before and after the deal is sometimes important.

They must have been desperate for money, or they would have taken more secure steps to sell the necklace.

animator
December 30, 2011, 10:29 AM
This news story, if nothing else, is at least documented proof of a hi-point pistol firing two consecutive rounds without malfunctioning. :neener:

SharpsDressedMan
December 30, 2011, 12:17 PM
They could probably also charge them with fraud if they attempted to sell or distribute the "fake" drugs. :D

writerinmo
December 31, 2011, 12:55 AM
animator, it's not bad enough that someone started the "9mm vs. .45" argument, you just had to go and throw in a Hi Point???:eek:

The_Next_Generation
December 31, 2011, 01:56 AM
This news story, if nothing else, is at least documented proof of a hi-point pistol firing two consecutive rounds without malfunctioning.

Not to mention all the lint buildup from being under his shirt :eek:

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