.308 for whitetail.


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Dylon Fisher
December 29, 2011, 11:55 PM
How is a .308 for deer. Too small, too little or just right. Thanks

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788Ham
December 30, 2011, 12:09 AM
Great caliber for deer, whitetail or mule deer, either one.

ArchAngelCD
December 30, 2011, 12:35 AM
I agree. The 308 will take any Deer you can get in your sights. (as will the 30-06 I use)

AKElroy
December 30, 2011, 12:54 AM
Given the higher pressures it can be loaded for, the .308 really does not give up much to the .30-06. I started hunting a little with a .308 two years ago, and I see zero difference in kill ratios / run-offs compared to my .270 and 7RM. All four deer were DRT.

The .308 is plenty for deer. Far less powerful than the .308, for the Texas whitetail I hunt, I have used various .30-30's for the last few years more than anything else, and so far no run-offs. Only 1 hog needed a follow-up.

JEB
December 30, 2011, 12:55 AM
.308 is a dandy for deer.

BigN
December 30, 2011, 06:12 AM
308 is a great caliber for deer and also with lighter bullets, all kinds of critters. Fun to shoot, much less recoil than the 06 and very accurate. If you're looking for a minimum for deer though, you can go a lot smaller/faster than that. I think eveyone needs a 308 in the safe.

LeonCarr
December 30, 2011, 09:28 AM
The .308 IME is just about perfect for whitetails.

I shoot a Remington 700PSS .308 with a 26 inch barrel. I get velocities equal to the .30-06 (2900 fps) with 150 grain bullets and below maximum handloads, with one hole three shot groups at 100 yards.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Lawdawg45
December 30, 2011, 12:10 PM
It's great, just illegal in Indiana:(

LD

dev_null
December 30, 2011, 12:15 PM
I've never seen a .308 revolver. ;)

ApacheCoTodd
December 30, 2011, 04:46 PM
It's great, just illegal in Indiana:(

LD
That's interesting. What's the basis regarding the illegality of .308 for deer there?

BIGR
December 30, 2011, 07:48 PM
That's interesting. What's the basis regarding the illegality of .308 for deer there?


Flat land restrictions maybe? Would be a bummer not being able to use any caliber rifle.

Birdhunter1
December 30, 2011, 07:48 PM
I think Indiana is a shotgun only state like IL. at least that is my guess, don't go into Indiana very often.

ApacheCoTodd
December 30, 2011, 07:59 PM
I see, probably not .308 so much as cartridged rifle then... Thanks.

jmr40
December 30, 2011, 07:59 PM
The 308 or 7-08 are about perfect deer hunting rounds.

thomis
December 30, 2011, 08:19 PM
.308 Winchester
not only perfect for whitetail but plenty adequate for any walking animal on this continent except the non-black bear species. there are some that may argue that statement but it's God's honest truth, as they say..
Just for kicks and giggles, call up Alaska's Wildlife Game Commission and ask any competent wildlife officer for confirmation.

Arkansas Paul
December 30, 2011, 08:35 PM
Fun to shoot, much less recoil than the 06 and very accurate.


I agree on the fun to shoot and accurate part, but I've not noticed a substantial difference in recoil between it and the .30-06. Of course, the old military Mauser with the steel buttplate may have something to do with that.

Oh yeah, and it's absolutely ideal for whitetails at sensible ranges.

303tom
December 30, 2011, 08:58 PM
It is what I use, mostly...............

ShawnC
December 30, 2011, 08:59 PM
How is a .308 for deer. Too small, too little or just right. Thanks
Definitely too miniscule. :rolleyes:

Great long range round for deer and most any other big game animal in North America, no matter what caliber arguments you hear.

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
December 30, 2011, 09:19 PM
Next to the 7mm.08 the .308 is great for white-tail. My own personal opinion is that the 7mm.08 is what the .308 wants to be when it grows up :D

That's interesting. What's the basis regarding the illegality of .308 for deer there?

Indiana is a shotgun and handgun cartridge long gun only state. I think the DNR here in Illinois is about to change to the handgun cartridge long guns soon as well. There have been some meetings about it.

snakeman
December 30, 2011, 09:40 PM
308 is my all time favorite whitetail caliber!

heeler
December 30, 2011, 11:52 PM
One of the greastest things about the 308 is the overall different types of ammo as well as it's availibility,which you simply will not find with the slightly faster(moot point) 7mm-08.
And the other issue that I personally like about the 308 is it can be had in a true short action and does exceptionally well out of carbine length barrels from 18.5 inches to 20 inches in length.
Some call the 308 a 30-06 lite.
I personally love it and have long ago put away my 270 and 30-06 for this particular caliber.

Geno
December 31, 2011, 12:01 AM
I am accustomed to hunting large game with magnums, as in .257 Wea Mag, .300 Win Mag and .300 Wea Mag. I didn't know what to expect from my Winchester M70 Stealth chambered in .308 Win. To say the least, it hits extremely hard. This is what I used: http://www.winchester.com/products/rifle-ammunition/super-x/power-max-bonded/Pages/X3085BP.aspx

Geno

303tom
December 31, 2011, 12:10 AM
Next to the 7mm.08 the .308 is great for white-tail. My own personal opinion is that the 7mm.08 is what the .308 wants to be when it grows up :D



Indiana is a shotgun and handgun cartridge long gun only state. I think the DNR here in Illinois is about to change to the handgun cartridge long guns soon as well. There have been some meetings about it.
I think you got that turned around.........

Friendly, Don't Fire!
December 31, 2011, 12:15 AM
I once sold a .308 to a local guy, I had loaded up tack-driving loads with 100 grain or 110 grain HP's, just because out of about 20 different load combinations these pulled almost one-shot holes off the 100 yard bench!

The first year he had it, he shot a buck in the side (broad-side, lung shot). He said the thing flew up, swung down and was deader than a doornail just like that (probably less than 50 yards).

He said when he gutted it, the lungs looked like someone threw a hand grenade in there! He was really impressed, and I was also impressed when he told me how they turned out for hunting!

Bio-Chem
December 31, 2011, 12:17 AM
If I had to be limited to just one round for everything here in the US Varmit to big game i would take the .308. it's wheel house is deer, but can be used for larger game easily as long as the hunter knows their bullet/trajectory and can shoot their rifle with a moderation of skill

T.R.
December 31, 2011, 08:18 AM
I think of the .308 as the 30-30 on steroids. Flatter trajectory and more energy at 300 yards. Yet recoil is moderate.

This South Dakota muley was taken with my lever action Savage in .308 at long range. The buck never knew what hit him.

TR

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/rushmoreman/muley3.jpg

Big Bad Bob
December 31, 2011, 02:21 PM
.308 is a great deer killer, or really just about anything in North America.

MCgunner
December 31, 2011, 02:40 PM
IMHO, just right or a little on the overkill side for smallish Texas deer. Great hog caliber, too. I have shot several dozen with less gun, .30-30, .257 Roberts, .357 magnum. .308 will take ANYTHING in the lower 48 to 300 yards with the proper load and bullet placement. Deer? Gimme a break. :D

M-Ful
January 8, 2012, 02:48 AM
I use a .308 Remington 700 shooting 168 grain BTHP, out of the 10 deer Ive taken in the last couple years with it I've only had one run for more than 10 yards. It all falls on shot placement though. It can do alot of damage and waste some meat though, but thats the only downside, but it could be avoided by using a lighter round. IMHO

tikka-guy
January 8, 2012, 09:23 AM
It can do alot of damage and waste some meat though, but thats the only downside, but it could be avoided by using a lighter round

A HP bullet is going to fragment more and could be the reason you see a lot of wasted meat. You may want to try a bullet that expands a little less violently.

Art Eatman
January 8, 2012, 11:31 AM
To repeat: DON'T shoot at the eating part!

(Grumble) Dunno why that's such a problem...

tikka-guy
January 8, 2012, 12:03 PM
OP: I'm curious, did someone give you the idea that .308 is too light/little for whitetails? It's hard for me to imagine someone saying that...

Cleburne
January 8, 2012, 10:09 PM
.308 will be my next caliber I buy, love the way it performs.

TexasPatriot.308
January 8, 2012, 10:55 PM
.308 or 7mm-08, ideal for any North American game maybe shy of grizzly. you can actually shoot these rounds without being recoil sensitive and hit your target unlike using the magnums and ultra mag fad rounds.

HarcyPervin
January 11, 2012, 04:45 PM
OP: I'm curious, did someone give you the idea that .308 is too light/little for whitetails? It's hard for me to imagine someone saying that...

This.

Unless you're doing something that is WAY beyond the level of 95% of hunters (read: extreme distance hunting, and I'm not going to start that argument) , nobody with any real experience is going to tell you that a .308 isn't enough for a deer. Now, if you're in texas and shooting the antlered coyotes, it may be a little much, but nothing that switching to a more appropriate weight and type of bullet won't handle.

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
January 11, 2012, 04:56 PM
LMAO@ "Antlered Coyotes". Come on now the deer in Texas aint THAT little!

Fremmer
January 16, 2012, 12:47 AM
Excellent deer round. It puts 'em down hard. Very accurate,
with slightly less recoil than the '06. It's my primary deer round.

Lloyd Smale
January 16, 2012, 07:38 AM
Id say theres probably more deer killed in this country with the 308 then any other round but the 06.

jhnrckr
January 16, 2012, 09:39 PM
I just whacked a 200lb boar at 80 yards with a 150 grain .308 ballistic silvertip, went thru the shield broke both shoulders and blew out the other side. Dropped him in his tracks. .308 should blow through any deer at most angles. You might be giving up some BC to a .270 or 7mm rem mag but for the most part anything to 250-300 yards is going to net you them same results. People preach energy transfer but again most anything .223 or larger is going to blow right thru and bullet performance/construction is going to mean more than 2500 ft lbs vs 3000 ft lbs.

GooseGestapo
January 17, 2012, 04:16 PM
My younger brother only owns one c.f. hunting rifle. A pre-'64 Winchester Mod-70FW in .308wcf. He's taken animals from Richardson's ground squirrels and p-dog's to Moose with it. Aside from the 110gr Hornady hollow-points for small varmints, He uses only one bullet; The Nosler 150gr Partitions. He's says he's now 9 for 9 on Elk. But, he's a "Hunter", not a "shooter". He gets within 300yds and places his "shot", not "shots".... Puts the gun up, and gets out the knife.......
Me, I'm more like "gun of the week". This week it's been a Browning BLR in .358wcf.......The .308's fatter, heavier hitting brother.

Elkins45
January 17, 2012, 04:26 PM
308 has a lot to recommend it as a whitetail round. I can't imagine needing anything else for 90% of the hunting situations I've encountered in the last 25 years.

VT Deer Hunter
January 17, 2012, 05:00 PM
Id say other than the 30-06 its a great deer round. Its my favourite round too.

Elkins45
January 17, 2012, 08:33 PM
Forgot to add there are real economic benefits to choosing 308 because surplus military ammo (and fired cases if you reload) can be had for less than almost any commercial round suitable for big game. Surplus 30-06 isn't nearly as easy to find these days as is 308, at least where I live.

DesertFox
January 17, 2012, 08:46 PM
.308 is my primary. Several different platforms. Whitetail, mule deer, antelope, black bear, wolf, any other predators.

Also had good results with .30-06. However, recently for some dumb reason I've been wanting to step up to .300 Win Mag for a bit more oomph at a bit more distance.

But deer and .308 go together like bread and butter.

Kachok
January 17, 2012, 09:06 PM
308 is more then enough for any deer within normal hunting ranges. It was my genral purpose deer gun untill I finnaly found my 6.5x55 :D
308 gives up nothing to the 30-06 unless you are trying to use 180+gr bullets. With todays modern bonded and solid copper bullets a 180gr is all you will ever need up to brown bear anyway. The only reason I replaced it with the 6.5x55 is that it kicks much less and has more energy/less drift past 200 yards for the handloader.
308s are also great for autoloaders, they were designed to autofeed very well.

borrowedtime69
January 18, 2012, 01:39 AM
i use an old Mossberg made Western Auto/ Revelations bolt gun in .308. Have taken 2 mule deer with it using Winchester 180 grn soft points. both dropped right where they stood. First was a smaller spike buck, about 130-140 lbs. second was above 300 lbs doe. she dropped with 125 yd shot and the 180 grner went all the way through her, stem to stern.

the only things on the North American Continent i would not hunt with it are the Brown Bears (Kodiak, and Grizz) and Polar Bear.

Legionnaire
January 18, 2012, 04:08 PM
I think the .308 is a great whitetail cartidge. Certainly not too small! If anything, it's a bit toward overkill, as a .243, .260, or 7mm-08 would all be excellent, too. But my "go to" hunting rifle is a Model Seven in .308. Sweet package for the PA woods.

Fremmer
January 18, 2012, 10:42 PM
The best thing about the caliber is the accuracy. 165 or 168 grain rounds produce sub-moa groups from my rifle.

Smokey in PHX
January 20, 2012, 02:38 PM
Can't get much better than .308 for deer hunting.

MaineHunter
January 25, 2012, 07:52 PM
I'd use a .308 for any animal in North America. Good range, shoots flat, moderate recoil. I have a Savage Model 11 in that caliber.

brnmuenchow
January 26, 2012, 08:20 AM
Does just fine, you should have no problems.

natman
January 26, 2012, 01:34 PM
Just right. Get some 150 grain soft points from Win, Rem or Fed and go hunting.

WVRJ
January 26, 2012, 02:04 PM
I've killed deer with a Contender .222 with a 14" barrel on the light side and a 300 Win mag on the heavy side.This year's buck fell from a 155 gr VLD out of my 308,and it was great!

bowyer19
January 28, 2012, 09:59 PM
'Bought a Savage 99C .308 in 1968.Equipped it with a fix 4X scope ;then changed to a 3X Wide Field when I had a deer so close I could not tell which hair I was shooting at.With that rifle I have shot Blacktail,Whitetail and Mule deer,wild pig, Black Bear, Pronghorn, Elk a Moose and the head off the occasional grouse where legal. Ranges 5Yds to 312 Yds.The last 20 years I have used nothing but 165Grn.Barnes X. Has always worked perfectly from large to small. I have several other rifles in other calibers but never would have "needed" anything other than that first .308.

tahunua001
January 29, 2012, 12:05 AM
the 243 winchester round was designed specifically for deer hunting, they took the 308 winchester case and necked it down for a 30 cal bullet to a 24cal bullet. I would say that if the "diet 308" is good for deer "308 classic" should be better than good :D

RangerHAAF
January 29, 2012, 02:40 PM
The 308 is an excellent cartridge for deer. I was hunting yesterday with this caliber with my Rock River AR-10 and the deer went about 10 yards before keeling over after it was hit. I used Federal 150 grain soft points.

jerry46
January 29, 2012, 07:39 PM
In my opinion, if the .308 is not the all around best cartridge for whitetails, it is one of the top three.

Kachok
January 29, 2012, 08:44 PM
I always slightly perferd my 270 over my 308 for genral purpose hunting, but hunting up close I always liked the larger 30 cal bullets.

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