The Istanbul Military Museum, Turkey. (pics? YES! tooo many pics!)


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Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:11 AM
Hi guys,

i happen to be in Istanbul to meet with the american family
i had the pleasure to stay with almost 2 decades ago.
Theyll arrive tomorrow an well celebrate Newyears
overlooking this amazing city that is on 2 continents.

Anyway ... i explored the city a bit since the morning
and on my way back ... stumbled onto the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Military_Museum

And what can i say ... it is great. Many many examples of rare guns and blade-arms .. and many unique models ive never even heard of.

Ok. Let the show begin:

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Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:17 AM
chainshirt n stuff.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:19 AM
revolvers & "reihenfeuer" Pistol

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:21 AM
bergman and weird repeater

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:24 AM
pocketguns and a close up of this ... ?

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:27 AM
rifles.

A werndl rifle. Only the first example of how much decoration
the ottomans put on friggin EVERYTHING! :eek:

The carved one is from Suhl/Germany

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:30 AM
A string throwing gun
and a ... sumthin. :-)

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:33 AM
a very slender wheellock rifle (***)
and a multibarrel anti-mutiny/boarding gun.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:35 AM
revo with decorated grip
and a 7(!) barrel rifle.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:38 AM
2 revolver rifles/carbine

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:40 AM
assorted revolvers
and an Uber-decorated Astra Pistol

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:41 AM
a pocket revolver belgian
and a velo-revolver.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:44 AM
a decorated S&W
and a weird single shot.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:46 AM
another singlshot
and a:

petrol-powered machinegun ( that never went into serial production)

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:48 AM
what the osmans thought a nice holster looked like.

And a weird gun with a very short shotgun/mortar barrel.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:50 AM
a revo with long slender barrel
and a water cooled bolt action.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:55 AM
a carved Mauser ( presented to the Sultan by the Kaiser)
and a weird mauser with some cylinder attached to the right side ...
... no explanation provided. Could be some recoil absorption experiment.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 09:57 AM
the optional Broomhandles '( there were many of those)
and a martini based pistol.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 10:00 AM
a sample-gun from a turkish maker ...
and then entered the artillery section.

i wouldnt feel unarmed if i CCWed that thing.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 10:04 AM
a multibarrel artillery piece

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 10:06 AM
and one of the most remarkable guns i saw:

An overunder Shotgun with 2 hammers.
French obviously.

Onmilo
December 30, 2011, 10:07 AM
Was there an H&K G3 decorated pretty and a Star M28 9mm pistol still on display when you were there?

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 10:09 AM
a shotgun based on the martini action ( .. big it is)
and a set of two french shotguns in their cases.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 10:12 AM
a "Mirror-stock" for shooting out of the trench without showing your head.

and a machinegun ... that i cant recall right now:

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 10:20 AM
I spared you the many many normal surplus rifles and all the gatlings, maxims, hotchkisses and vickers .... and i will make another thread in NON-Firearms
for the blades n stuff.

Enjoy - and comment if u can contribute anything to those guns.
(The plaques usually only statet century, country and sometimes maker)


This pic is a view from the Galata-Tower, i made this morning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galata_Tower

Ok off now - took to long loading all this up.
I need to hunt myself an "Iskender" now!


Hope u enjoy the show and
have a good transition into 2012!

Mp7.:cool:

lowerunit411
December 30, 2011, 10:39 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post these!! I enjoyed all of them! Happy New Year!

LKB3rd
December 30, 2011, 11:14 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=155697&d=1325254093

The French Shotguns in those nice cases with all of the other kit reminds me of old guitars and other musical instruments that you can find with cases sort of like that. Rarely that high end with all of the intricate fitted sections.

I enjoyed that pic and all of the others:) Thanks for taking the time to put together the pics and info. It does look like a great museum.

CoRoMo
December 30, 2011, 12:12 PM
Whoa

TwoWheelFiend
December 30, 2011, 12:18 PM
cool pics man. Turks just love to engrave their guns.

dev_null
December 30, 2011, 12:41 PM
Great posts, thanks.

> "reihenfeuer" Pistol

That's one hell of a harmonica!

Robert
December 30, 2011, 01:02 PM
The machine gun in #24 is a Lewis Gun. Or something based on a Lewis Gun.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 01:33 PM
just looked over the thread and realized i missed some pics .. :-)
will select and post them later. Glad u guys like :-)

303tom
December 30, 2011, 01:39 PM
Now that was COOL, thanks for posting.........

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 02:13 PM
some more silver plating
and a golden set of english custom revolvers.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 02:16 PM
more gold
and more flintlocks. ( some of the easily 7+feet long)

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 02:21 PM
and THE knuckle!

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 02:28 PM
helmets, axes, yatagans ... and lotsa swords from the turks, mamelukes, germans, italian-citystates and so on. All embedded into a giant museum
full of big paintings ilusttrating important battles in their history.

Considering the turks even had their own warrior-caste till modern times
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary
its not at all surprising they are proud people.
1000 years of military history speak for itself.

Der Stro
December 30, 2011, 02:32 PM
Absolutely beautiful, they really knew how to take a gun and make it beautiful without gaudy. Thanks for taking the time to post all these, I have a light that matches one of the revolvers with silver handgrip.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 02:37 PM
plus a katana given to the sultan by the Tenno.
( ... the pic does it no justice .... majestic sword...)

Last but not least, one of the 4 35cm coastal guns that defended
the Dardanelles in WW1. (made by Krupp/Essen, germany.)

Hope u enjoyed the ride!

EnfieldEnthusiast
December 30, 2011, 05:13 PM
Excellent stuff in those pictures.I must go there,when Im next in Turkey.

Cosmoline
December 30, 2011, 05:26 PM
Did you get picks of the famous Ottoman bombards and enormous breach-loading artillery from their glory days? I've read some of those were made to fire BOULDERS.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 05:38 PM
hm? :D

the breech loaders from KRUPP are in the pic 3 posts above.

baronthered
December 30, 2011, 05:51 PM
The pic on Galata Tower is nice. How'd it feel looking across the golden horn? Lots of history there. Truly a place where east and west meet. Going to the Hagia Sophia? Have you seen the Walled Column? For some reason I have always associated a certain... awe... or something with the city formerly known as Constantinople. The history has always fascinated me and for some reason for me it's one of those places I HAVE to see in my life.

I think it was something I read about the walls of the city and the great chain stretched across the golden horn. IIRC there was a fellow and his army attacking the city and with the chain up went miles around the city with their boats/ships (overland) to take the city by water.

Wild Stuff. Thanks for sharing.

Mp7
December 30, 2011, 06:01 PM
funny enough the folks im gonna meet in a few hours left south central KY today to come here :-)

Letcher cty?

Belive me .. the awe is there. This is where knowledge transfer really started.
We germans still would be sitting in trees without Istanbul.
Overlooking this GIANT city with all its water, historic buildings
and the geography ... you know this is one of the few important places of civilization.

horsearcherwannabe
December 30, 2011, 06:49 PM
Dose the place have a web page? Yes I do have access to someone that reads turkish

Cosmoline
December 30, 2011, 07:38 PM
Thanks for that bronze bombard--that's the kind I was thinking of.

I wonder, was there much on the Dardanelles campaign? I've seen various "enfausers" and hybrid rifles circulating stateside from that period.

USAF_Vet
December 30, 2011, 07:49 PM
Man, I never thought Id ever say this, but I kinda miss Turkey. I went to that museum and many others during my two and a half years at Incirlik Air base. Fascinating country and people.

Mp7
December 31, 2011, 01:52 AM
@Cosmo

There wer lotsa Mausers and Enfields ... and quite a few Frankensteins
made by the turkish gunmakers. The Martini, M-peabody and the Mauser seemed
their favorite base to make those monsters from :-)

gunner69
December 31, 2011, 02:10 AM
Interesting........
Thanks for sharing.

baronthered
December 31, 2011, 03:06 AM
funny enough the folks im gonna meet in a few hours left south central KY today to come here :-)

Letcher cty?

Belive me .. the awe is there. This is where knowledge transfer really started.
We germans still would be sitting in trees without Istanbul.
Overlooking this GIANT city with all its water, historic buildings
and the geography ... you know this is one of the few important places of civilization.

Letcher is over on the eastern side of the state, but it does go to show it is a small world sometimes.


Thinking of all the history there, it is literally piled on top of itself. The Hippodrome... all the cicterns around the city... it really is mind boggling.

tekarra
December 31, 2011, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the photos Mp7, they were very interesting. When I was in Egypt I wanted to visit Turkey but sadly I could not pull the time together.

CZguy
January 1, 2012, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Mp7,

Believe me .. the awe is there. This is where knowledge transfer really started.
We germans still would be sitting in trees without Istanbul.
Overlooking this GIANT city with all its water, historic buildings
and the geography ... you know this is one of the few important places of civilization.


You hit the nail on the head with that. I really enjoyed Turkey. A very under appreciated country in my opinion.

Originally posted by USAF_Vet,

Man, I never thought Id ever say this, but I kinda miss Turkey. I went to that museum and many others during my two and a half years at Incirlik Air base. Fascinating country and people.

I was at Incerlik Air Base also. I enjoyed my time there, except for the Turkish cats that ran around on top of the tents at night.

Mp7
January 4, 2012, 07:07 AM
(just bumpin it - for alle those that werent online over Newyears. :-) )

Tom609
January 5, 2012, 09:20 AM
CZGuy and USAF_Vet, good to see some other Incirlik alumni. It certainly was an interesting tour.

gunner69
January 5, 2012, 11:24 AM
Merhaba, I was stationed at both Incirlik and Izmir. Izmir was a great assignment. They had a nurses college downtown, close to the Atlas Hotel, and after the 10pm "bedcheck" after which some of the ladies climbed the fence for a night out.

Years later, while TDY to Germany, I met an old Turkish flame in Frankfort close to the Barnhoff. It was at a Turkish Cafe and I had stopped there for a sandwich and to ask directions. Trivia.... John is Ercan in Turkish. I could hear some female calling Ercan, but ignorred it. What a shock that was.......
when she tapped me on the shoulder. I actually liked Turkey and learned to speak the language quite well.

I would definetly like to visit the museum.....

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