"Friendly Looking" Long Gun?


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DoomGoober
December 30, 2011, 04:53 PM
So, California just essentially banned carrying any type of handgun (open or concealed.) The only option left is to open carry Long Guns. However, open carrying an all back AR15 with rails is not exactly the best image to portray.

Can you guys think of "friendly" looking long gun that could be open carried, and get people to say, "Wow, that's nice looking." Rather than, "Holy shoot, call the cops!"

(Random aside: Women have it easier! When a woman open carries, everyone's like, "That's hot!" Especially if the gun is pink -- then it just looks like an accessory. And no, I'm not looking for a pink gun, but any non-black color would be good.)

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Skribs
December 30, 2011, 04:57 PM
It's not a handgun, or an autoloader, but I think a nice, shiny, wood-stalked lever action (with whatever they use for the more silvery barrel) would look fine and dandy.

toivo
December 30, 2011, 05:22 PM
+1 on the "cowboy rifle."

JustSomeDude
December 30, 2011, 05:28 PM
I dunno, my bet is that anything that goes bang is gonna freak out the libtards over there on the LEFT coast. Sorry, but I think you're fighting an uphill battle wearing roller skates out there, my friend.

SharpsDressedMan
December 30, 2011, 05:30 PM
All rifles that are slung seem friendly to me; at port arms, not so friendly. When the muzzle is even slightly directed towards me, I consider it impolite, riding very fast into hostile.................

LibShooter
December 30, 2011, 06:28 PM
How about a Winchester in a scabbard (http://www.oldtradingpost.com/old-west-store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=77_78_83)?

bergmen
December 30, 2011, 06:32 PM
So, California just essentially banned carrying any type of handgun (open or concealed.) The only option left is to open carry Long Guns. However, open carrying an all back AR15 with rails is not exactly the best image to portray.

Can you guys think of "friendly" looking long gun that could be open carried, and get people to say, "Wow, that's nice looking." Rather than, "Holy shoot, call the cops!"

(Random aside: Women have it easier! When a woman open carries, everyone's like, "That's hot!" Especially if the gun is pink -- then it just looks like an accessory. And no, I'm not looking for a pink gun, but any non-black color would be good.)

This is flatly incorrect. The recent law does not effect licensed concealed carry only unloaded open carry in specific locations. Unloaded open carry is now (actually as of 1-1-2012) only legal where loaded open carry is (and has been) legal.

Dan

PoserHoser
December 30, 2011, 06:40 PM
How about a white AR 15:D

sig220mw
December 30, 2011, 06:45 PM
I am surprised you can carry in any way at all out there.

Romeo 33 Delta
December 30, 2011, 07:12 PM
Fold up the bipod and sling this over your sholder. I don't think you'll find many Kaliforniks who would know what it is!:D (and NO ... that is NOT a Japanese, non-firing replica)

SharpsDressedMan
December 30, 2011, 07:23 PM
^^^^Didn't the Wookie carry one of those in the Star Wars movies?

Romeo 33 Delta
December 30, 2011, 07:34 PM
I do believe you're right. Maybe it's a Plasma Laser in the40 watt range (or whatever the heck Arnold said):D

whetrock
December 30, 2011, 07:39 PM
I'd go with a pistol caliber lever action carbine of some sort with about a 20 inch barrel ( for the sake of ammo capacity ) with some sort of peep sight or red dot mounted on top. A handpicked or slicked up Rossi R92 or an older pre Remington Marlin 1894 would be ideal IMO.

talldragon
December 30, 2011, 07:40 PM
Get a CCW. Most counties here are "may issue" or "shall issue".
Then you can carry your choice of handgun (within reason, of course).

I think a Win. 94 or Marlin 336 looks friendly (if you wear the appropiate western attire ;) ).

Politics here are generally rural thinking and urban thinking.

Out here in the sticks, no one would care what you carried or how you carried it.
We would be more interested in seeing the firearm and talking about it.

I'm just speaking for my area. YMMV :) .

ms6852
December 30, 2011, 07:40 PM
How about a white AR 15:D
Plus one with what he said, but if you really want it to be non threatening you could camouflage it in pink and have a flowery scene to it. I'm sure people would die laughing.

VT Deer Hunter
December 30, 2011, 07:49 PM
How about a Winchester in a scabbard (http://www.oldtradingpost.com/old-west-store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=77_78_83)?
There yah go, old west look.

rcmodel
December 30, 2011, 08:01 PM
Get yourself a hardhat and some Carharts and nobody will give you a second glance.

http://www.mileanhour.com/post/The-Milwaukee-Tools-edition-AR-15.aspx

rc

ECVMatt
December 30, 2011, 08:09 PM
Open Carry of long guns....no comment....

taliv
December 30, 2011, 08:12 PM
get something like a tubb2000

or an anschutz

Z-Michigan
December 30, 2011, 08:17 PM
If it's possible in your county, a CPL is by far your best option.

I think a walnut-stock levergun with iron sights only is the only rifle that has a chance of being deemed nonthreatening. And even that is pushing it. My state is relatively gun friendly and open carry of pistols is often a non-issue, but someone wandering around with a rifle outside of a hunting field or range would be meeting cops very quickly.

Finally, I hate to give this suggestion because I know it usually isn't practical, but the situation in CA is far past the tipping point and long-term, if you value your Second Amendment freedoms, you need to move elsewhere.

Psa1m144
December 30, 2011, 08:18 PM
I would find a job elsewhere and move out of that horrible state. But I value my freedom more than I do my location:p

snakeman
December 30, 2011, 08:18 PM
Winchester 1897 12 ga. in a scabbard. BTW I would do my best to leave California and stop being run over by rude dog kissers with fake boobs and faces to match. Just saying...

tyeo098
December 30, 2011, 08:32 PM
Winchester 1897 12 ga. in a scabbard. BTW I would do my best to leave California and stop being run over by rude dog kissers with fake boobs and faces to match. Just saying...
You're letting one city define an entire state?

snakeman
December 30, 2011, 08:41 PM
It was a joke...seriously

bergmen
December 30, 2011, 08:41 PM
Get a CCW. Most counties here are "may issue" or "shall issue".
Then you can carry your choice of handgun (within reason, of course).

I think a Win. 94 or Marlin 336 looks friendly (if you wear the appropiate western attire ;) ).

Politics here are generally rural thinking and urban thinking.

Out here in the sticks, no one would care what you carried or how you carried it.
We would be more interested in seeing the firearm and talking about it.

I'm just speaking for my area. YMMV :) .

That is correct, 41 out of the 58 counties are in that category. People who don't live here think nobody can get a concealed carry license because they think San Francisco and Los Angeles speak for all of us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Dan

Mike OTDP
December 30, 2011, 08:43 PM
Double shotgun.

BrocLuno
December 30, 2011, 11:15 PM
I live in the Kollective too. It's a bit insane out here. But, it's also where we live. Since I grew up on a ranch here, carrying was no big deal. Now it is, but we are approaching 30M folks here and a lot of them live close together.

You need a concealed carry permit and you need to carry without it showing. Anything else is literally showing off. Why? What reason do you have to let the others know you are armed? It gets you nowhere. If you are being accosted, the best surprise is pulling a piece they didn't know you had. If in a peaceful crowd, why get them all on edge?

If you want to "show off" I'm with some of the others - get a "John Wayne" rifle (Win 92) in blue and wood and show it off, especially if it's a real antique that warrants oohing and ahhing over :)

HBrebel
December 30, 2011, 11:35 PM
I agree with you about the showing off/open carry thing. I know it is important to fight the good fight in any way possible, but I would not want anybody but my immediate company knowing I was armed. I am in orange county so a concealed carry permit is not even an option. I do carry unloaded and locked up inside a day pack when I'm out and about just in case. But wearing a visible side arm or slinging a rifle down on main street is asking for extra attention and possibly trouble.

FIVETWOSEVEN
December 30, 2011, 11:35 PM
Where is it legal to open carry loaded handguns in Kali?

aliveisalive
December 31, 2011, 03:16 AM
http://www.grizzlycustom.com/pagephotos/grizzly_custom_guns_sbr_marlin_1894_45_colt_package_ghost_ring_sight_3.jpg

this looks friendly... ;)

C'Thulhu
December 31, 2011, 04:06 AM
Conforming to a perception (in this case that black rifles are only for bad guys and good people carry other things) only reinforces it in my opinion. Going against the grain is much harder, but the effects are far greater lasting. If you conduct yourself as a respectable citizen, it will not matter to those with opn minds what you carry. Afterall, the clothes do not make the man.

HB
December 31, 2011, 04:30 AM
I would probably call the police if I saw a man with a rifle walking down my street.

HB

gyvel
December 31, 2011, 04:36 AM
Of course, you could always carry a Hi-Point 9mm pistol; Everyone would mistake it for a battery operated drill. :D

krankieone
December 31, 2011, 08:34 AM
Non threatening long arm? . . . possibly classic sxs 12g carried unloaded and broken in the crook of your arm or held by the barrels with the stock over your sholder but some people freak out is they see any gun.

Hunterdad
December 31, 2011, 09:25 AM
Ya cant get much friendlier looking than a levergun. Do you really plan on carrying it around town?

HKGuns
December 31, 2011, 10:53 AM
Off topic, sorry.

What? Another Anti-gun law in KA? When are the gun owners in ********** going to take their State back? For pity sake, MOVE or get control of your state into more constitutional friendly hands. Keep rationalizing your rights away! It won't be long before they ban them outright in that miserable excuse for a State.

ECVMatt
December 31, 2011, 11:03 AM
HKGuns,

If you are really interested in knowing what is going on here in CA you should check out Calguns.net. We have several fronts going on right now that are active court cases. Open Carry is one of these strategies to force CCW or LTC as they now say at Calguns. This is the most aggressive we have ever been with the state and looks like we will get some pretty big wins. Most of us don't like to quit and can't move, so all we can do is fight the machine.

HKGuns
December 31, 2011, 11:12 AM
I will do that Matt. Thanks. The garbage going on there is bad for everyone in this Country who respect the constitution. Sorry for the off topic foray folks. Please don't let this degenerate into a Political thread.

FIVETWOSEVEN
December 31, 2011, 11:26 AM
Of course, you could always carry a Hi-Point 9mm pistol; Everyone would mistake it for a battery operated drill.

Just for fun, I think people should start open carrying drills that are small enough to fit in a holster. Give the Police some headaches over power tools. :evil:

bergmen
December 31, 2011, 11:27 AM
Off topic, sorry.

What? Another Anti-gun law in KA? When are the gun owners in ********** going to take their State back? For pity sake, MOVE or get control of your state into more constitutional friendly hands. Keep rationalizing your rights away! It won't be long before they ban them outright in that miserable excuse for a State.

External perception is a whole lot different than internal reality when it comes to the RKBA in California. As ECVMatt indicates, there are a lot of heavy brawls going on in the courts right now with the big gun legal eagles biffing it out. The Calguns site lays it out pretty good, our side has our dukes up and the other side is backing up slowly. As I see it, RKBA is being extremely well respresented in the legal sector with knowledge, organization and tactics that are highly motivated and first rate.

Dan

taliv
December 31, 2011, 03:47 PM
I would probably call the police if I saw a man with a rifle walking down my street.

that is sad.

jp9mm
December 31, 2011, 04:06 PM
Mosin Nagant

Smith357
December 31, 2011, 04:25 PM
Most Bench Rest rifles are not very scary.

Very tame looking .50 BMG
http://www.dierksind.com/6-284a.jpg

Or how about a nice Hello Kitty Rifle?

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/hello-kitty-ar-15-rifle1.jpg

JSNAPS
December 31, 2011, 04:41 PM
an ol' thutty-thutty

Coal Dragger
December 31, 2011, 06:05 PM
Sing up the rifle of your choice, then move to a different state.

TT
December 31, 2011, 08:54 PM
bergmen: Nothing could be further from the truth.

Actually it is pretty close to the truth. While there certainly are counties in California that are effectively ‘shall issue’, most Californians live in counties where they cannot get a CCW unless they are politically connected. So the suggestion to ‘get your CCW’ is not very helpful.

BrocLuno
December 31, 2011, 10:40 PM
You'all stay in your states and we'll do what we have to in Cali. Since the US Govt owns just at 50% of the land mass of Cali (USFS, BLM NPS, and Military) - if we can replace a couple of anti-gun senators we may be able to bring some change? In any case, I believe it is still legal to open carry if your side arm is a back-up while hunting (with license and tags for the Zone you drew), or hand gun hunting out right. And that can go on, on a lot of the above mentioned federal lands.

These issues are mostly related to urban and suburban areas with Sheriffs who will not issue CCW permits and cities that won't allow it in the city limits anyway. Since the whole of the legislature, courts and governors office are all controlled by the Dems, a lot of the sheriffs are either currying favor with them, or are Dems too (read leaning anti-gun).

Balance is not something we have right now. Balance is a long way away. But, we'll see how this goes? Better you'all watch from the sidelines than try to get into the fight. And for a lot of us, moving ain't an option (family, land, jobs,etc.) - although my cousin did move to Wyo :)

But, even if you think about that (?), there's a state with maybe the population of the SF Bay Area. I still say it's about density and the politicians fear of an armed conflict between civilians like WATTs on steroids.

bergmen
January 1, 2012, 01:09 AM
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Actually it is pretty close to the truth. While there certainly are counties in California that are effectively ‘shall issue’, most Californians live in counties where they cannot get a CCW unless they are politically connected. So the suggestion to ‘get your CCW’ is not very helpful.

You are taking my comment completely out of context. Please re-read post #25 again to see what I actually said.

Dan

Earlsbud
January 1, 2012, 01:25 AM
I live it Ca. I hate the laws. I am a Life member of the NRA but the open carry craze is lost on me. I am not going to sling a long gun and push a cart through Wal Mart to make a point. IF I carry ANYTHING, there will be NOTHING open about it.

bubbaturbo
January 1, 2012, 01:35 PM
One of the biggest internet gun forum fantasies/myths has to be that walking around in public with a long gun will be OK as long as it is just a lever action with a wood stock. What are you people smoking?

SharpsDressedMan
January 1, 2012, 01:55 PM
^^^Now that just depends on where you are in this country. I worked in NW Colorado, and people up there probably would not have batted an eye if you carried a rifle into a restaurant, and sat down and ate, as long as you weren't acting a fool. Not so in NYC or LA, I suspect. :rolleyes:

Art Eatman
January 1, 2012, 02:07 PM
Good bull session, but not much of a thread...

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