Wow, I'm old and out of touch...


December 31, 2011, 09:26 AM
I guess I should have invested in lead and powder the last time I purchased in 2004.

Hard cast LSWC for 44 were $16/500 and 4227 was $96/8lbs.

Anyway, found the site and it looks like it's full of LOTS of information. Getting back into shooting/reloading so I'm sure I'll be back with some questions!

Maybe I'll remember enough to answer a few.:rolleyes:

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December 31, 2011, 09:38 AM
bangbig, good to have you onboard---lots of good info and people here, a wealth of knowledge on this forum:)


December 31, 2011, 09:45 AM
The price of the toys and the stuff to feed them has certainly gone up over the years, with a large spike happening after Nov 2008.

Welcome to THR. Jump right in, the waters fine.

December 31, 2011, 09:50 AM
Don't feel bad, when I got back into shooting and reloading my Bullseye said Herculese on the can and my IMR powders said Dupont. When I went to the LGS I said "What's Alliant?"

December 31, 2011, 09:53 AM
I wonder why it went up so much in 2008... oh wait I know. Anybody think it'll go down in November 2012??

And welcome back to reloading!

December 31, 2011, 09:56 AM
+1 This time 2012 is going to follow the theme of "Wont get fooled again"

December 31, 2011, 10:38 AM
Anybody think it'll go down in November 2012??

Simple answer: no.

Reason: supply is lower than demand, a situation in which prices naturally rise. Prices for raw materials are also up (not just for shooting related manufacturers but for all buyers of lead, brass, etc.), further exacerbating the situation.

This is not necessarily dependent on November's Federal elections, but if a 2A friendly chief executive and legislature are on the horizon, buyers of related commodities will probably feel less pressure to stock up, thus easing demand and perhaps at least stabilizing prices.

If I were in the ammo or reloading components business, or in the related raw materials (lead, copper, chemicals) businesses, I'd be carefully controlling production so as not to elevate supply too much, drive prices down, and possibly get stuck with inventory I couldn't sell.

In short, we're in a waiting game.

December 31, 2011, 02:44 PM
Welcome aboard.

I started reloading in the 70's and still have a few supplies left over from that era. Sticker shock is an under statement. I have 3# cans that is cheaper than current 1# cans. I have/had a 1 # can of Bullseye that was $1.90. I shot a lot of 357 mag back then and was getting those pills for ~$9/1000....

December 31, 2011, 03:24 PM
Welcome from another old timer!
I think my first clue that reloading was going to take a big expensive jump, was when lead shot suddenly doubled in price, and then trippled. If I spend too much time looking at prices, I wind up buying something other than what I really wanted.

December 31, 2011, 03:31 PM
THESE are the 'good old days' for somebody later on.. Priced a can of coffee lately? - LOL

December 31, 2011, 08:01 PM
Don't drink coffee. But the price of a gal of gas says it all.

December 31, 2011, 09:41 PM
Welcome bangbig. Just kick off your shoes and make yourself at home.

This time 2012 is going to follow the theme of "Wont get fooled again"

I certainly learnt my lesson!



January 1, 2012, 02:34 PM
Quote: "I certainly learnt my lesson!"

I stopped reloading for a few years and started back in the middle of the shortage in 2009. Besides sticker shock, availability was almost non-existant at local shops and not too much better on line (especially primers ). I won't be caught like that again. I don't keep huge reserves but try to keep 5k of spp, lpp,and srp primers on hand.

January 1, 2012, 02:54 PM
A lot of us learned our lesson after bill was elected. Never again will we be caught without. Some of us were called hoarders because after obamo was elected because we were ready, and kept on shooting while others could not, despite the fact that some of us shared with fellow shooters.

5K of each in our working stock is a good measure. If I get down to 3K of any one type, I buy 2 or 3K more. Sometimes a little more. I have 6K of small and large pistol (combined) primers coming from PV, along with some powder. The powder/primer guy at the gun shows was still too high last time.

Hondo 60
January 1, 2012, 03:45 PM
Welcome bangbig. Just kick off your shoes and make yourself at home.

Just wash your feet first.
We don't wanna smell stinky feet - :D

Welcome back to the hobby!

January 1, 2012, 07:07 PM
lol... Good to see there's a sense of humor around here!

Peter M. Eick
January 1, 2012, 07:15 PM
Just out of curiosity, where in MI are you from?

Do you say "Yah to the U.P. eh'"? I still have my UP bumper sticker on my file cabinet next to my computer at home. I went to MTU back in the 80's and my folks say the big Blizzard is just now winding up to be a decent storm.

Regarding the supplies, yes they are more expensive, but looking back they actually seem cheaper then when I started loading in the early 70's. You just have to order in bulk and get some decent deals.

January 2, 2012, 09:14 AM
No, I'm from "the south". Just above the Indiana state line.

Even in bulk I'm still getting sticker shock!

January 2, 2012, 10:05 AM
Welcome to THR.

Genesee County Original here.

I started loading in 2006. I bought 500 Rem .357 125 grain SJHP bullets for $26. I thought...It will take a long time to shoot these. I should have bought 5000 for that price. I started on a LEE single stage anniversary kit and never thought I would own two Dillon's. Now those bullets run about $70 if I can find them. When I shoot .357 mag, it costs me about $200 per range trip...ouch. And .45, I don't even want to start on that one.

January 2, 2012, 10:10 AM
I started seriously reloading around 1985.
Always watch for a bargain and buy more than you need.

January 2, 2012, 10:43 AM
The theme song should be "these are the best of days" now and that is a sign of the troubled times we are in. Another shooting on the TV this morning to report.:banghead: Seems Bad economy = Bad times. IMHO the demand will keep prices up in all areas and reloading is a prime area as the materials in metallic components are used heavily in other areas as well.:uhoh: Glad you found your way here. Everyone is great company on here. Welcome:)

Peter M. Eick
January 2, 2012, 08:49 PM
So a "troll" who is way south of the bridge.

Enjoy "downstate". I remember that far south end of the state can be kind of hilly in places and had some pretty good forests.

I understand about the shock. Now it is not uncommon for a standard bullet order for me to run $600 per order. Every time I start thinking again about getting a set of molds and get into casting!

January 3, 2012, 09:23 AM
Geesh, I'm only 46, way to young to be talking about "the good ole days". Yet here I am!

Anyway, yea, I'm snapping up any "deals" I see at the moment. That will insure the cost dropping greatly any time now.

January 3, 2012, 04:28 PM
I wonder if we are the problem. If we continue to pay the outrageous prices for goods, the suppliers will continue to charge the outrageous prices. Of course, I would never suggest to stop shooting, but my .22lr is looking better every day. And 'they' know that and that is why .22lr ammo went from $10 a brick to $25 a brick. Just sayin'

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