Wallmart JHP Ammo Question


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Wanderling
December 31, 2011, 03:33 PM
I am looking for some inexpensive yet reliable JHP so that I could both shoot it at the range and keep it for HD. I would like to practice with what I use.

Noticed that local Wally carries 115 gr Remington JHP for mid-$20s /100 rd box, and 147 gr Winchester JHP for $20/ 50 rd.

Either of them any good for home defense ? I remember reading that 115 gr was too weak and 147 gr may be too slow.

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jwash3rd
December 31, 2011, 04:09 PM
Both rounds are OK from a full size handgun but may not expand from a compact. You get what you pay for, I keep a couple boxes of these around just in case.

rcmodel
December 31, 2011, 04:17 PM
I remember reading that 115 gr was too weak You need to read more.

rc

Wanderling
December 31, 2011, 04:55 PM
I have a full size G17, so would 115 gr one be a good SD round ?

Deus Machina
December 31, 2011, 06:55 PM
115 was the standard 9mm weight for decades. It's just fine because it comes packaged with some good velocity.

147 has often been considered 'too slow' to expand, but that's in conversations concerning old-fashioned JHP's (which Winchester JHP probably is) out of a compact handgun (which your G17 is not).

Grab a box of both and hit the range. Pick whichever you shoot best.

briansmithwins
December 31, 2011, 06:55 PM
Personally, I prefer +P loads in either 115gr or 124gr. I've never been that impressed by 147s unless used with a suppressor.

After running ~100 rounds of your carry load to check function just use FMJ. There really isn't that much difference.

BSW

abq87120
December 31, 2011, 09:31 PM
Shoot any JHP. Just practice enough so you can reliably hit what you aim at. That's what counts. I suggest the 115g WWB (Winchester White Box) for most of your practice. At self-defense ranges, you can't tell the difference between it and most JHP. Trigger control is the beginning of accuracy.

If this is truly only for HD, get a shot gun (too). I use a Mossberg Camper Special. It's 30 years old so I don't know what it's called now. $99 with a storage pouch back then. It's an 18 1/4 inch barrel 20 ga pump with a pistol grip instead of a stock. It's loaded with five 2 3/4" #6 shells. Sweet in tight places like the hall way or bathroom and can be handled by the wife (barely). Also, it won't take out the neighbors if I miss the BG.

ORHunter79
December 31, 2011, 09:42 PM
A picture is worth a 1000 words. A video is worth.....

Anyway, here ya go.

http://youtu.be/bBdZV9PBF5s

kokapelli
January 1, 2012, 09:29 AM
A picture is worth a 1000 words. A video is worth.....

Anyway, here ya go.

http://youtu.be/bBdZV9PBF5s
I'll consider it next time I need to shoot water.

jackpinesavages
January 1, 2012, 09:35 AM
I have found that 9mm Glocks are more ACCURATE and CONSISTENT with 124 gr. loads.

Shoot the cheap stuff (115gr.) for practice and general range fun. Get your self some of the 124gr +P for carry, shoot some at the range for a weapons check.

The 115 gr. vs. 147 gr. debate is false. Practice, get some training, make your head shots!!

What pistol did you get?

ohwell
January 1, 2012, 10:22 AM
That Remington 115 grain JHP stuff is very good ammo for the price. Its very accurate out of both of my nines. I use it for practice ammo and Hornady Critical Defense for carry.

wally
January 1, 2012, 11:13 AM
In terms of handgun effectiveness, where you put the bullet on the target is far more important than which bullet it happens to be.

IMHO getting more practice is far better than buying more expensive ammo.

The Lone Haranguer
January 1, 2012, 11:26 AM
The WWB FMJ is close enough in recoil characteristics and point of impact to the JHP. (For that matter, I can feel little difference in recoil between almost all of the 9mm loadings, save for the NATO.) I see no need to spend the extra bucks for the JHP just for range practice. Just shoot enough to verify functioning and save the rest for carry.

nathan
January 1, 2012, 11:29 AM
FMJ or JHP doesnt matter in your gun. Its putting them in the right spot that counts.

918v
January 1, 2012, 12:31 PM
The Winchester 147gr JHP load is excellent.

MedWheeler
January 1, 2012, 10:42 PM
115 gr Remington JHP

That's what is in my PF9. It's little-brother ammo (88-grain JHP in .380) is in my Bersa Thunder.

bushido7
January 1, 2012, 11:04 PM
Remington Golden Saber can be bought reasonable....and it shoots pretty decent.

Shipwreck
January 1, 2012, 11:14 PM
The cheap Remington JHP has a LOT of flash. Most I have ever seen on a JHP before. I tried 1 box and never got it again. Also, I got peppered with junk out of the ejection port that never happened with other brands

918v
January 1, 2012, 11:16 PM
I think it is loaded with Power Pistol.

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