High-Point .45 carbine for HD?


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bk42261
December 31, 2011, 06:52 PM
I'm considering one of these for my wife and myself to use for HD. Seems like almost the perfect platform-major caliber, compact weapoon, ease of use, etc.
Anyone here with actual first-hand knowledge of this system or just the usual "If it doesn't cost X$ from Y manufacturer it's a POS?
ETA We already have a S&W 65 and a Mossberg 500 loaded and good-to-go so this would be another (possibly better?) option.

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rondog
December 31, 2011, 08:32 PM
No personal experience in combat with one, but .45acp in a lightweight, easy handling carbine with optic rails? What's not to like? I have a .40 HP carbine, and it's a dandy little shooter. I wouldn't hesitate to use it, except I have an M1 carbine for that purpose.

bk42261
December 31, 2011, 08:49 PM
Any function/reliability issues at all? i.e. feeding hollow-point ammo or other feeding problems?

USAF_Vet
December 31, 2011, 09:08 PM
I ran my 9mm Hi Point in an informal carbine course some friends had set up. It ran flawlessly in that course, even despite getting sand in the action. I'd expect similar results and performance with the .45.

Shawn Dodson
December 31, 2011, 09:33 PM
If it functions reliably - why not?

I'd prefer a Taurus Circuit Judge .410 revolver shotgun loaded with Remington 000 tungsten/bronze/iron buckshot (see - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/370579/remington-ultimate-home-defense-ammunition-410-bore-2-1-2-000-buckshot-4-pellets-box-of-15). No need to learn how to clear stoppages. No short stroking the action. Just aim it and press the trigger. If it doesn't fire, just press the trigger again. My local WalMart carries them.

dprice3844444
December 31, 2011, 09:48 PM
http://www.mechtechsys.com/

USAF_Vet
December 31, 2011, 10:19 PM
The mechtech is a nice option if you already own the host platform. Otherwise, it's an $800 gun at best, with a Glock as the host frame.

as the OP has a S&W 65 revolver and a Moss 500, the mechtech doesn't seem to be the best option.


The Circuit Judge is another option, but I'd opt for the 12 gauge Moss 500 the OP says he owns over the .410 revolver monstrosity.

bk, how is your Moss 500 set up? the 12 gauge pump with an 18" barrel is a formidable HD weapon. the one downside to the Hi Point carbine is mag capacity. The 45 uses the exact same mag as the pistol, which is a 9 round mag. Still, that price point is hard to beat for a dead nuts reliable, fairly accurate weapon.

mgkdrgn
January 1, 2012, 09:33 AM
The High point carbines are fine, reliable guns. Stone simple and butt ugly, but they work.

Personally, I might go for a KelTek Sub 2000 using Glock mags (.40 or 9mm) just to get a higher round count ... but if you need more than 10 you are having a really really bad day.

ercnjasmine
January 1, 2012, 10:03 AM
i love my 995. No recoil, and fairly cheap to shoot en mass, even if you don't reload. The main reason I went with 9 instead of .40 or .45 was because of price. I don't have any experience with either of the others, but I can't imagine much recoil even with stout ACP rounds. It goes bang every time I pull the trigger and it puts all 10 in a 2 inch group at 50. I have no qualms keeping it loaded as a go to gun for hd.

bk42261
January 1, 2012, 05:34 PM
Thanks for all the responses. We were thinking of getting a 1911-type platform, but she isn't all that comfotable with that.
She's "rolling soda can" accurate with the 65, but the 24" Mossberg kind of intimidates her.
It seems like this would be the ideal HD platform if it is "hallway long" accurate and completely reliable with SD-type ammo.
I'm not sure if I like that spring-type recoil pad though. Any thoughts on that?

Fred Fuller
January 1, 2012, 05:46 PM
Since this one seems to be strictly a hardware thread with no software involved, I'm moving it from ST&T to Rifle Country

isaac.eck
January 1, 2012, 06:22 PM
I think it would be a great choice. I have never shot one, but i have held a few at gun shows, and let me tell you, the ergonomics are amazing. As for reliability, High point despite popular belief, make very reliable guns, and there rifles are no different. I have even heard that some police agencys down south use them as there patrol rifles. (don't quote me on that, because i can't reference it, its just something i've heard, and it makes sense.) I would deffinetly consider one for HD, as it is cheap, reliable (from what i've heard in reviews), and the ballistics of a .45acp are very good to begin with, but put them in a rifle length barrel, and the become amazing. I would think that my only complaint with these rifles if i owned one, is that they don't chamber one in 10mm.

fallout mike
January 1, 2012, 10:49 PM
I have one. Its a great shooter and very fun shooter.

Furncliff
January 1, 2012, 11:49 PM
I've had my HP .45acp for right at a year. I've put 1000 rounds through it in a mix of store bought and my own reloads. It fed and shot everything. Hardball, lead, plated, hollow point. The only thing I could not get through it was some 200 gr. semi wad cutter. I believe that is a magazine issue. So far one failure to feed on the last round in the magazine. It's perfect for HD IMHO. Short barrel, lots of places to hang stuff like lights and lasers, reliable, not expensive, they have a built in butt stock recoil absorber, that will be nice for people who are sensitive.
Mine is not great shakes in the accuracy department (at 50 yards) , but across a room should be no problem.
Is it ugly? Oh my yes. But Momma said handsome is as handsome does.

Don't let the price lead you to believe they are cheap. I was surprised at how robust mine was when I got it.

These are unsophisticated weapons but they do the job. And they are fun to shoot.

marine 97-03
January 2, 2012, 12:55 AM
I have one in 9mm and it runs fine all types of ammo accurate out to 100 yds and there +p rated

rondog
January 2, 2012, 01:02 AM
I've posted these before, but these are the first two targets I shot with my .40 HP carbine. Each target got a 50 rd. box fired at it, and the gun was right out of the box, honest to God. I literally bought it, stopped at WalMart for ammo, and went to a range. So yeah, it'll do for HD use. I'm actually trading a 10/22 tomorrow for HP 995 carbine.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20High%20Points/DSCN1764.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20High%20Points/DSCN1763.jpg

tkopp
January 2, 2012, 01:55 AM
I've heard nothing but good things about them, and you can't complain about the price and warranty. I had a chance to shoot a buddy's C9 and it was a brick, but reliable and accurate enough. I think he paid $50 for it.

You might look into a 9mm though. The .45 is so low pressure that it won't gain much in a longer barrel, while the 9mm will scale quite well to carbine length.

shiftyer1
January 2, 2012, 02:06 AM
Accurate, robust, reliable and cheap AND backed by a good warrenty. I had the 9mm pistol and tore it up bad. I bought it on a whim and really put it thru the paces once I had other guns I liked more. I sent it in and they charged be $25 for repair and sent it back with 2 mags. I believe the warrenty transfers to new owners also but i'm not sure. I haven't owned the carbine yet but have spoken with many that love theirs and I have one at work in 9mm that i'm planning on buying if the checkbook lets me.

I do love pistol caliber carbines so I may be biased.

Chris-bob
January 2, 2012, 02:16 AM
I love my HP 995(9mm). Someday I will get one in 40 and 45.

zeke
January 2, 2012, 09:53 AM
Have shot a Hi-Point in 9mm. Extremely accurate and reliable , even after hundreds of rounds. But seem to remember it can not be charged with the safety on? If my memory is accurate, this alone would make me hesitate to keep it for a home defensive arm, unless it was the only firearm easily obtainable.

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