Just got a Winchester 94 with williams sight


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PonyKiller
December 31, 2011, 10:15 PM
just got a winchester 94, ran the serial numbers on the net and it apears to be built in '62. gonna give her a good tear down and cleaning, it's been sitting for a very long time. It has a reciever mounted williams peep sight, here's where the questions start. It still has the original sight up on the barrel, without adjusting the peep sight the factory iron's are more or less in the way. It doesn't appear to be removable from the barrel, kinda scratching my head on how to remove it without destroying it. Once i get that kink worked out, and get her cleaned up, it's range time! After that if things fall my way, NY rifle season next fall.

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Abel
December 31, 2011, 10:31 PM
Take a wooden dowel and a hammer and drift it out of the dovetail groove from left to right. You can buy a dovetail blank to fit into the groove so that the dovetail doesn't get bent and it looks good.

rcmodel
December 31, 2011, 10:34 PM
What he said.

Drive out the old sight from the barrel dovetail left to right.
(It may take a brass punch if the sight is really stuck with dried oil.)

Fit & drive in a slot blank right to left..
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/br/brownells.aspx?page_name=rifle-slot-blank

rc

PonyKiller
December 31, 2011, 11:43 PM
here are some pictures of it.

Sav .250
January 1, 2012, 07:43 AM
A pre-1964,don`t mess it up. :)

CTPhil
January 1, 2012, 01:51 PM
From the point people are making about how to drive the sight out, does that mean that the dovetail has a taper?

rcmodel
January 1, 2012, 01:57 PM
No, but the sight dovetail probably does, just from the beginning wear pattern from being driven on if nothing else.

It has long been traditional to drive pins and sights in right to left, and out left to right.

Doing it the other way will cause further wear to one or the other dovetail or pin & hole, and eventually make them looser.

But anymore, who knows what the manufactures do??

Some of the modern guns I have replaced sights on went the other way, like the Springfield XD for instance.

rc

SwampWolf
January 3, 2012, 04:00 PM
By "right to left" (or "left to right"), I assume the directions have to do with as when holding the rifle-that is, from the butt as opposed to from the muzzle. Right?

rcmodel
January 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
Right!

Muzzle is 12:00 oclock.
Butt is 6:00.
Right is 3:00.
Left is 9:00.

Or, your military right.

rc

7.62 Nato
January 3, 2012, 06:03 PM
Hard to tell from the pic, but try removing the rear sight elevator (wedge) to see if that clears the line of sight.

aHFo3
January 3, 2012, 06:31 PM
Good looking lever gun. It looks like it needs to be used more! Is it a 30-30?

Ghost Tracker
January 3, 2012, 06:37 PM
Congrats on a fine Winchester that already HAS a great Williams Peep sight. Enjoy that rifle, but take it to a reputable gun smith BEFORE you try any OJT (On-the-Job Training). It's too nice to "learn-by-doing" unless you're a precise & experience hobbyist.

PonyKiller
January 3, 2012, 10:38 PM
Yup it is a 30-30.

Removing the elevator wedge made little difference.

I am really liking the williams sight on there, seems to be pretty sturdy, and easily adjusted. The barrel is clear now gonna do some reading up on dissasembly and such and going to give it a through cleaning, and remove the rear sight. If i'm unsure at that point or see anything funky, i'll drop it off to the gunsmith.

Thanks for all the advice! i can't wait to get it down the range.

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