FNH A1a SPR Rifle


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AnklePocket
January 28, 2003, 11:23 PM
One of these caught my eye in a magazine. Anyone have any experience with one (FNH A1a SPR)? Looks like maybe a candidate for a nice and easy 6x42 scope. I don't know much about bolt actions and scopes so feel free to square me away.

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JG
January 29, 2003, 12:39 AM
Well, that's the 20in model with the fluted or unfluted barrel. FN makes a very nice production gun.

The original SPR, before there were others.....had a 24in barrel and an HS Precision stock. The gun is great, people like them very much, not just for the gun but for the fact that they were being sold on the net for like $900. The gun was a great deal overall.

Since then, FN has come out with some new models and all use different McMillan stocks (no more HS stocks).......with these changes, a fairly large price increase followed.

While the FN SPR series guns are good out of the box, they aren't the greatest deal when compared to the original one.

If I recall, the A1a retails for over $2,100. Not sure what the street value is, but I'll bet it isn't much lower.

For that kind of coin, you could get a custom rifle.

That's what I would recommend, you'll get a better gun for the same or a little more money (GA Precision, Nor-Cal, etc). Just will take some time to get though.

Since you're not a PD, why go with such an expensive production bolt gun....that's really who these FNs are intended for.

Scope wise, I like Leupold.....but there are others (Nightforce, etc).

You have the luxury of going custom. Go for it, assuming these prices aren't scaring you :)

AnklePocket
January 29, 2003, 06:43 AM
$2100 (plus or minus). Nevermind. Thanks.

ether
March 24, 2003, 11:46 PM
$1099 for non-fluted A1a. $1199 for fluted version:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/fast.cgi?guncat=1520

I have one of the fluted ones on the way, and will let you all know how it shoots after I decide on a scope and rings.

JG
March 25, 2003, 12:22 AM
Yikes, this thread was raised from the abyss :D

Looks like the prices are coming down slowly but surely, the last ones I saw were in the $1300 area online. I actually looked at one at the gun store this past weekend and it was a fairly nice gun (he wanted $1600 I believe).

Detritus
March 25, 2003, 07:01 AM
a winchester by any other name.......

the price is WAY too high for what you're really getting (a Win M70 with FNH markings).
the other guys are right you could get a much better custom gun built for what these things are being sold for. and if you had a custom gun built on a Savage action you could get EVEN MORE gun for your money, and it would take less to make it work accuracy wise :D (sorry had to plug my favorite bolt gun, they're still teh best shooting gun i've ever had)

762x51
March 25, 2003, 12:00 PM
I saw the same one that JG saw this past weekend. Nice gun but the bolt felt quite rough when I operated it....wasnt too impressed in that department. Just an observation.

MLC
March 25, 2003, 01:30 PM
I was at the range last summer and there was a pair of gents with matching rifles. Sadly they were shooting Portugese surplus so I couldn't asses the rifles accuracy. When i spoke to them and asked if they'd tried any match ammo,and what kind of groups the rifles got one fellow replied that," with the accuracy they got from the milsurp, why bother with match ammo?". They were shooting at a cardboard silhouette that looked like swiss cheese
and getting softball sized groups at 100 yards. Oh well, they were happy. The stock looked great and a said before it's a model 70 action.

ether
March 25, 2003, 07:07 PM
Yeah, I've been searching all over for info on this rifle, and this was one of the only threads I found.

As I said on another thread, the receiver and action on this rifle are Winchester pre-64 (MY favorite btw :)) but the barrel is chrome-lined, and I believe it is actually the same that is used on FN's M240 machinegun. I read that on some website, but now I can't find the link.

Supposedly, they get at least 0.8" at 100 yards with good ammo. My dealer's came with a test target that measured 0.7".....it was a 4 or 5 shot group.

The gun is overpriced, but I think the barrel and McMillan A3 stock make up the bulk of the price.

If the bolt seems rough, maybe it's just nice and tight :)

BHP9
March 25, 2003, 07:18 PM
Its amazing how much money people are willing to blow on prestige prima-donna rifles with glizzy adds and gun magazine hype.

Old salts know you can take the average Winchester, Remginton or Savage, glass bead it, put a good target trigger in it or even rework the original trigger, load some decent match ammo and take a back seat in accuracy to absolutely none of the prima-donna rifles.

If you are more of an advanced shooter you might want to get an adjustable stock later for three postion shooting but I have seen plenty of competitors do just fine with the factory stock.

All of this is way less expensive than blowing your money on a prestige weapon that you are not skilled enough to use unless you are shooting it off of sand bags.

You would be a lot better off to spend the big bucks on loading up a lot of match ammo and then get some training in NRA high power rifle shooting. Thats when you learn how to master the equipment that you presently own and become a real rifleman and not just a weekend sandbag shooter. If you can only shoot half inch groups off of sand bags then the rifle has mastered you and not the other way around.

I shot high master at ranges up to 600 yards with a second hand Winchester pre-war pre-64 model 70 that I converted myself to .308 (it was originally a 30-06). It has the standard 1939 wooden stock on it (not a "plastic fantastic") and the original factory trigger that was so good it adjusted down to 2 lbs without a rework (back then they made quality rifles). The weapon was glass bedded and a hand stop rail put on it. It shoots 1/2 inch groups with match loads all day long and I did not have to spend thousands to purchase and modify it.

Prestige rifles are nice to show off to your friends but if you want a working rifle that easily matches it then you do not have to spend thousands to get one.

Besides a semi-custom rifle will fit your needs, no factory can possible know what items will work best for you on your rifle.

Most factories have not the foggiest notion what makes a good match or combat rifle. Working with other people in match shooting you will be exposed to a lot of differnent custom made rifles and then you can choose what options helps you master the rifle and not let the prima-donna factory rifle master you.

Plastic stocks do have their advantages but since I use my rifles for recreation and I also like aethetically out of this world good looking guns I stick with gorgeous real walnut. It works just fine and is not as ugly as sin as plastic stocks are.

ether
March 25, 2003, 07:24 PM
Sheesh, I already have working rifles (that only get fired from the bench anyway). Can't I just get a really cool police rifle and enjoy it? I promise not to show it off (much) :D

ether
March 27, 2003, 07:31 PM
I got my fluted SPR A1A today. It's rock solid, and the test target measures 0.45".....that's right.....sub-30-second of angle :) Not bad for a chrome-lined bore. I didn't see any powder burns on the target, so hopefully they were firing from 100 yards ;)

Whoever said the action is rough was right....but I guess it's not surprising considering the tight tolerances and matte black finish all over. Hopefully it will smooth out a little in time. I can't wait to shoot it, but I'm going to have to save up some more to get the scope I want.

ether
March 27, 2003, 09:28 PM
I also want to put in a plug for Clint Brown of Brown's Sporting Goods (who's selling these rifles on GunsAmerica). He is the nicest guy, and he made this the best gun buying experience I've ever had, and I've had a few.

KB180
March 28, 2003, 04:47 PM
Actually, the 1st Gen SPR's had a chrome lined bore and a 26" barrel. The current FN 2nd Gen Models come in either a 20" or a 24" model. Haven't shot the 2nd Gen SPR's, but the 1st Gens are definitely tack drivers! I've got a NightForce NXS 5.5-22X56mm with a NP-R2 reticle on my 1st Gen SPR.
http://www.kwbsales.com/FG10779.jpg

ether
March 29, 2003, 12:50 AM
I finally got around to lubing the action on this thing, and it's much smoother for the most part. However, I still feel a "raking" sensation when working the action. I read the manual, and it said the bolt is actually hand-fitted and matched to each rifle. They stamp the serial number on the underside of the bolts so they don't get them mixed up. And the engraved serial number rakes across the top of the sear when you work the action. There might be better places to stamp the serial number, but I really don't think it hurts anything.

bones
February 29, 2004, 11:23 AM
FN SPR A1A on it,s way

Well worth the money and the wait


http://snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/index.php?showtopic=3007

ether
January 16, 2005, 01:18 PM
Yikes, this thread was raised from the abyss


Yikes, you can say THAT again :)

Bones, what are you linking to? I get errors when I try to register on the site. How much did you pay for your rifle?

Woody174
September 28, 2006, 05:10 PM
I goto pick up my SPR A1A tonight, seeing that this thread is a little bit dated, how do you guys like your FN's? Any modifications like pillar bedding? How about your scopes? This thread has been raised again :evil:

Woody174
November 30, 2006, 11:04 PM
No responses, did you guys sell your FN's or what ;)

USSR
December 1, 2006, 08:15 AM
Woody,

Wouldn't dream of it.

Don
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/ussr/Target2004a.jpg

Woody174
December 1, 2006, 09:13 AM
Whoa thats a nice ragged hole!!! What distance was that at? Any Mods done to your FN like pillar bedding? I still havent got to fire mine yet, still waiting to get a scope! I probably wont get to shoot past 100 yards on ranges around here but hopefully will find something with a little more distance. I'd frame that target for sure. :D

USSR
December 1, 2006, 10:57 AM
Woody,

5 shots at 100 yards. The rifle is the 1st Gen Model of the FN SPR. I replaced the original H-S Precision stock with the then new McMillan A5 stock, and had George Gardner at GA Precision pillar bed it.

Don

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