reloading funnel question


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plunge
January 2, 2012, 12:12 PM
I recently started reloading for .223 and the only thing i dont really like about my setup is my powder funnel. I have a rcbs green plastic 22-45 cal funnel and it it kind of a pain to get it lined p on the 223 case right because it is pretty much the exact same size as the case mouth. Just wondering what would be a better funnel? I'm not ready to move to a powder measure or anything yet, mainly because i'm cheap and this works good enough for now, but a better funnel that fits the case moths better would be great. thanks.

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CMV
January 2, 2012, 12:47 PM
I have the same RCBS funnel with the adapters for all the different calibers. I really hate it, but others I looked at all share the same design - they go around the case mouth with a tight fit instead of into the case mouth.

The problem for me is that some powder finds its way between the funnel & the case mouth and spills when you separate the two.

To fix it, I took the screw on dispenser tip from a small tube of Liquid Nails. Its taper fits inside the case mouth and its opening is large enough that I can pour from the scale pan into it without spilling. I initially thought the threads would be a problem & catch a lot of powder, but it slides right past them.

To go faster or pour from something a little harder to control, this tip has the same OD as the .22 RCBS funnel adapter. You can hold your RCBS funnel right on top of this or epoxy/tape them together. I hold the RCBS funnel when going from the Lee scale's pan because it's pouring spout isn't as long as the Hornady scale so the powder is harder to control. Using both, I can dump the pan into the RCBS funnel instead of pouring it into the Liquid Nails tip.

http://cmv.zftp.com/IMGP2442.JPG

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J_McLeod
January 2, 2012, 12:51 PM
I use this one, and it works. http://leeprecision.com/xcart/POWDER-FUNNEL.html

popper
January 2, 2012, 12:58 PM
I have Lee with the same problem (243 from .30 funnel). I used a F/L sized case (expander pulled out - gets the neck smaller in dia.) cut it off short to form a funnel. This funnel is held into the Lee funnel with some rubber grommets. Reducer funnel goes into the case to be charged and grommets fit against the neck. Results - all the powder goes into the case and none spills on the bench.

HOWARD J
January 2, 2012, 01:05 PM
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/480995/satern-powder-funnel-22-caliber-aluminum-and-brass

These funnels work great--they are not bothered by static elect.

rcmodel
January 2, 2012, 02:22 PM
If you have a scale you can zero with it, the Lyman scale pan / funnel simply can't be beat for .223 or anything else.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/118739/lyman-electronic-scale-powder-funnel-pan

rc

k4swb
January 2, 2012, 04:18 PM
If you have a scale you can zero with it, the Lyman scale pan / funnel simply can't be beat for .223 or anything else.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/118...der-funnel-pan (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/118739/lyman-electronic-scale-powder-funnel-pan)

rcWill the funnel part fit over a .45aCP case?

gamestalker
January 2, 2012, 04:24 PM
Just go buy the other one RCBS makes, it's specifically made for small caliber applications.

plunge
January 2, 2012, 04:39 PM
thanks for all the help

rcmodel
January 2, 2012, 04:56 PM
Will the funnel part fit over a .ACP case?Yes.

Near as I can tell, it works on everything from .218 Bee to .45 ACP quite well.

I haven't tried it on anything bigger or smaller then that..

rc

CMV
January 2, 2012, 05:39 PM
Why do they all seem to go over/around the case mouth instead of into it?

Spilling 5 specks of powder isn't all that much, but that quickly turns into thousands of specks and a mess.

Miata Mike
January 2, 2012, 05:44 PM
I had the same trouble and bought a Saturn aluminum/brass .22 funnel. Works better than the cheap Lee funnel but not what I was looking for.

I bought the Lee Rifle powder charging die (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/792057/lee-auto-disk-rifle-powder-charging-die-22-to-30-calibers) and use the cheap Lee funnel to pour the powder into the die. Much better!

Of course if you are charging on a single stage press, this isn't a real good setup. I have a 4 hole turret press and had an extra hole to use. ;)

Steve in PA
January 2, 2012, 07:08 PM
I almost never use a powder funnel when reloading .223 as my go to powder is H335 which meters like butter from my RCBS powder measure.

If I'm working up some loads using something like Varget, then I will use the funnel. I just hold the funnel centered on the case with one hand, then pour the powder with the other. Never had a problem or issue with this method. I have been using the RCBS powder funnel that came with this kit for over 20 years.

kingmt
January 2, 2012, 07:29 PM
I use the Lee charge die as a funnel.

rcmodel
January 2, 2012, 07:32 PM
Why do they all seem to go over/around the case mouth instead of into it?Because a hole in a .223 case is too small already to get good powder flow down it.

Especially stick type powder.

A "funnel" small enough to go inside a .22 case would probably not even let some stick type powers flow through it at all.

rc

Kevin Rohrer
January 3, 2012, 09:29 AM
Quick-Measure (QMS) sells two lines of powder funnels, both w/ interchangeable case mouths. In the picture, the brass ones on the left are really well made and heavy. The pink ones on the right are plastic, light, and made by MTM. Both work well.

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Reloading/IMG_0710.jpg

357 Terms
January 3, 2012, 10:24 AM
I got a small funnel with a cheap flask I bought years ago, I don't remember what happened to the flask but I cherish that lil plastic funnel.
I would happily pay for another flask (and toss it) if I lost that funnel.

res45
January 3, 2012, 10:41 AM
When I use a funnel I use the MTM posted above with a drop tube. I also trickle the powder into the funnel from the pan along the side so it swirls entering the case mouth instead of dumping it all at once for anything smaller than 30 cal.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/11233

plunge
January 3, 2012, 10:57 AM
I came p with something cheap and easy. I first tried the plastic liquid nails type tip and i was having too much powder stick to it no matter how much i rubbed it down with static sheets, so i stopped in at walmart to see what i could find. I looked in the crafts section and they had a lot of different little funnels. They had plastic ones near the glitter and stuff, but i didnt want the static problem. What i found and am now using is metal cake tips. There were 4 different ones in a package for $3. I am using the number 5 tip and it works great with the WC844 powder i am using. i taped it to my rcbs funnel because the opening on top is small, but it fits in the case mouth and works awesome. hope this will help someone else.
It is just like this one, except it came in a pack of 4 different tips for 3 bucks.
http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=226607620&sellerid=26534553

k4swb
January 3, 2012, 11:06 AM
Will the funnel part fit over a .ACP case? Yes.

Near as I can tell, it works on everything from .218 Bee to .45 ACP quite well.

I haven't tried it on anything bigger or smaller then that..
rcThanks rc

helotaxi
January 3, 2012, 02:48 PM
Yes.

Near as I can tell, it works on everything from .218 Bee to .45 ACP quite well.

I haven't tried it on anything bigger or smaller then that..

Not the best solution for ball power and the .20cals. No problem with slightly larger kernals.

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