I Really Need a .22 Rifle...


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KG363
January 2, 2012, 08:36 PM
Hi guys,
I want to make a solid introduction into rifles for myself and I figured the best, and cheapest, way to do it would be through the .22 round. I don't have too much of a preference as far as action goes, but I suppose I'd prefer a bolt action; I shot a friend's Winchester Model 69a the other day and it was terrific. I'm also a fan of aperture/peep sights, but that can be an after-market modifications. As far as price goes, I suppose <$350 would be best, preferably less than $300

Some others on my mind are the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22, the Winchester model 190, and the CZ 452 (or is it 455?). I was just hoping you guys could give me some advice on what's good without breaking the bank too badly.

Thanks!
~KG

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hardluk1
January 2, 2012, 08:50 PM
If you want just a good basic rifle get a marlin 60. Accurate enought with its choice of ammo to feed the family. If you want easy to customize ruger 10/22, used beater of course. Accrate bolt rifle CZ or Savage . CZ will break your buget by a ways. Sounds like savage FVT with the aperture/peep sights just price around before you buy.

ms6852
January 2, 2012, 08:52 PM
If you really would like to make a solid introduction I would than highly recommend a bolt action rifle. Stay away from the semi auto, tacticool stuff. These are too much fun too shoot and like myself, you will probably lack the discipline to learn proper marksman ship skills. Go with a marlin XT22 or Savage Mark II series, their are other but not within the prize range you want, or ignore what I said go with ruger 10/22, marlin 60, cz. Check the pawn shops for a good deal.

50 cal
January 2, 2012, 08:59 PM
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22.

KG363
January 2, 2012, 09:03 PM
I'm looking a bit online I'm really liking those Savage rifles.

@50 cal, I'm not really looking for an AR platform gun just yet

JSNAPS
January 2, 2012, 09:07 PM
buy a cz 452. the new 455 are not nearly as good! *personal experience* you can find them nib for good prices.

50 cal
January 2, 2012, 09:10 PM
Anything in Savage bolt is a wise choice.

Clayne_b
January 2, 2012, 09:20 PM
I would go with a CZ for the price. next option a Savage. IMO

alman
January 2, 2012, 09:20 PM
Cant go wrong with any of these sugestions . I personaly prefer marlin 60 s . Got a new stainless model with a scope @ Wally World for about $200.00 a couple of years ago . Picked up an old Glenfield model 60 with the squirrel stock and a simmons scope for $105.00 at the local gun store a couple of weeks ago . Both are very accurate as long as you keep em' clean .

Dane17
January 2, 2012, 09:27 PM
I'd consider a lever gun for your needs. I have a Henry 22 lever and it's a lot of fun.

bikerdoc
January 2, 2012, 09:41 PM
Couple listed in the buy, sell, trade section

NY Marksman
January 2, 2012, 09:44 PM
I second the suggestion for the Henry Lever action.

CaliCoastie
January 3, 2012, 05:20 AM
I'll throw out the Marlin 39a, if you have time to so around you can easily (at least in my neck of the woods) find them. Something about the action, looks and feel just works great for me.

Brian Williams
January 3, 2012, 05:37 AM
Marlin 39
Savage bolt

Brian Williams
January 3, 2012, 05:38 AM
Maybe a Ruger 10/22 with a Williams peep sight.

Arkansas Paul
January 3, 2012, 05:51 AM
I have a Marlin 60 with a Nikon Prostaff 4x32. Total price new - about $240. I think they've gone up a little since I got mine, but you can still get the rig for well under $300. I'm totally satisfied with mine.

MikePaiN
January 3, 2012, 07:00 AM
This Savage Mark II BTVLSS ....fell into my hands through an inheritance of guns I recently acquired.
As its setup with a cheap Tasco 1.5x4.5 scope the rifle is extremely accurate and a pleasure to shoot. I was going to sell it with the rest of the lot I inherited, but once I got time with it, the rifle had to be a keeper. I am going to put better glass on it, a rifle this capable deserves something good :)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/RC%20sale/DSC04173.jpg

I also have a Ruger 10/22 setup in a Choate pistol grip stock that's hard to beat for fun shooting and iron sight practice.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/10%2022%20M1%20build/DSC03781.jpg

MistWolf
January 3, 2012, 07:46 AM
Shop around and find a good Remington 510 single shot
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/267137000/267137822/pix572764332.jpg
They can be had inexpensively, are very accurate, and easy to work on. Like a full sized rifle, it cocks on opening and has a thumb safety. It'a also a classic. I started both my sons on Remington 510s.

If you don't want a single shot, the 511 has a detachable box magazine and the 512 a tube mag.

Check out Gunbroker. You'll see you can find them for very reasonable prices. The 510 can be found for less than $150

Lateck
January 3, 2012, 10:05 AM
Another vote for a lever...
Henry, Mossberg or Marlin are all good. You can shoot .22LR, long, short...with ease.

A Ruger 10/22 would be my second choise.

Good Luck,

Lateck,

Smith357
January 3, 2012, 10:52 AM
Invest in a vintage Winchester, Remington, or Mossburg bolt action military training rifle. Not only will you learn how to shoot but you will learn how to recoup your investment

mac66
January 3, 2012, 11:06 AM
10/22 with tech sights will meet your criteria. Many people will poo-poo the 10/22 because you "have to" customize it. In reality you dont have to, it is a good little rifle right out of the box. Just needs good sights like most other 22s.

Even though I have a Marlin 60, I am not am big fan of tube feds. You might want to consider a Marlin 795 instead. They are cheap (around $100) after rebates and very accurate.

accrhodes
January 3, 2012, 11:11 AM
I own 6 different .22's and the savage bolt is the most accurate.
I have alot of fun with the Ruger 10/22 though.
It being your first .22 you have to ask yourself are you looking for accuracy or the fun factor?

The Capt
January 3, 2012, 01:51 PM
KG363,
I read that you are looking for a bolt action .22 rifle, however, I'd like to recommend a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22. This rifle is fun and cheap to shoot, comes with a 25 round magazine and by becoming familiar with this rifle, it would be a piece of cake for you to move up to the AR-15. The Smith & Wesson 15-22 and an AR-15 operate the same way. I own the Smith & Wesson 15-22 and I LOVE taking it to the range and so will you. You get a lot of bang for the buck!!! I hope this helps. :)

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757786_-1_757784_757784_image

Incase anyone is interested, the patches came from: http://www.campaigncasuals.com/hunting-club-military-patches.html

GunnyUSMC
January 3, 2012, 02:14 PM
There are way too many good 22s to say which one is the best. I know this because I have over 40, 22 rifles and love most of them, the others I just like. ;)
First off decide what your main use will be. If shooting at the range from a bench, a heavy barrel rifle will be nice. If you plan to hunt with it, weight may be a factor.

If you do your homework you can also find used guns at great prices.
Here are just a few of my 22s.
1970 Ruger 10/22
http://i49.tinypic.com/29xu0bo.jpg
Winchester Mod. 77
http://i25.tinypic.com/5privd.jpg
German KKW trainer
http://i47.tinypic.com/35au7pe.jpg
CZ 513 Farmer
http://i42.tinypic.com/2u74ldf.jpg
TOZ -78-01
http://i34.tinypic.com/bdgtf.jpg
Savage MKII
http://i40.tinypic.com/28l9khv.jpg
Winchester 94/22 XTR Dad bought it for me back in 1975
http://i47.tinypic.com/2qvw07b.jpg
Ruger 10/22 Boyds Blaster stock Ported barrel from AR-7 Sales
http://i48.tinypic.com/izlqfl.jpg
Marlin 80 DL
http://i44.tinypic.com/rh4pqd.jpg
Polish Wifama
http://i48.tinypic.com/ann14h.jpg

nathan
January 3, 2012, 02:42 PM
Savage Mk 2 BV is pretty nice.

jimg45
January 3, 2012, 02:43 PM
I bought the Marlin XT 22 a few months back. Was not real happy with it coming off the range as I was barely able to keep my shots on the paper. Brought it home, cleaned it and went back the next day. (It was a new gun so it had to be me right?) Second day was no better even though the scope had been reseated etc.

After the second trip, I took it down to parade rest. The hole for the lug was way oversized and the other locator bolt had no support. I bedded the stock and built in the needed supports and floated the barrel. Once I got the scope zeroed it put 14 rounds in a dime size hole.

So far it is a good gun just . . . not out of the box.

Zor
January 3, 2012, 03:22 PM
I bought a mossberg 146a yesterday for under two bills. It was a good find, both stock and steel are better than 90% on it. It has a cheap 4x32 on it. I bought it with two purposes in mind. 1. Becoming more proficient with a scoped rifle and 2. To pass down to my son for his first rifle. Something like it or a Winchester model 67 or 68, a marlin 60 or an older savage bolt is perfect for a first rifle. Plus you don't break the bank. Be careful with the 10/22. There is a HUGE aftermarket for them and there is a huge possibility of addiction.

woad_yurt
January 4, 2012, 10:19 AM
If you must buy new: Marlin 60!
Used: Glenfield 60!

They're all very affordable and quite accurate. I think they've sold about 12,000,000 so far. That says something.

10/22s are cool but, as is, out of the box, the 60 will be the more accurate of the two. You can always pick up a decent Marlin for $100, probably less, if you cruise some pawn shops. Take someone knowledgeable with you to check 'em out, though.

kludge
January 4, 2012, 10:27 AM
Savage Mark I or II FVT.

Heavy Barrel, aperture (peep) sights, within your stated price range. <$250 from the CMP

http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/rifles.htm

I'd call Savage and see if you can order one with the BV (laminated) stock.

http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/images/Savage_w.jpg

KG363
January 4, 2012, 09:07 PM
That is the rifle I am really liking. How is it so cheap there?

kludge
January 4, 2012, 09:18 PM
If you're a member of a CMP affilated club you can get the discount.

Otherwise you pay retail. Shouldn't be too much more though. You should be able to order one from your LGS.

KG363
January 4, 2012, 10:22 PM
Is the Savage Mark II FVT available in a wood stock?

almherdfan
January 4, 2012, 10:28 PM
If you want an introduction, either a CZ or Savage Bolt will suffice. If you want something that you can grow with, a Ruger 10/22 is the best option. I love the .22LR. There are many great options--you'll probably buy more then one.

chanroc
January 4, 2012, 10:34 PM
Add another vote for the Henry Lever Action. Out of all my .22s, I love my Golden Boy the most. I have an old Remington 581, that's pretty darn accurate too.

P.B.Walsh
January 4, 2012, 10:55 PM
The FVT's just come with the awful plastic stocks, get a replacement when you can, heres a quick review of a Mk I FVT:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=625184

jpwilly
January 4, 2012, 11:13 PM
Very happy with my Savage MKII BV

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p38/jpwilly/DSC_0572.jpg

mastiffhound
January 4, 2012, 11:20 PM
I have two, a 50's stevens model 56 that I paid $50 dollars for about 10 years ago and a ruger 10/22 that I got for $150 I think about 5 years ago. The stevens is all original with a 5 round mag and the 10/22 has a tapco stock, blackhawk sling, harris bipod, and a cheap 3-9 x 40 tasco scope.
The 10/22 $150
Tapco stock $70
Harris bipod free from a friend!!
Tasco scope was $49.99
$269.99 and it is 1 moa or less at 50 yards. It has become my favorite to take out and plink because ammo is so cheap and varmints are so plentiful around here. Also remember if you want more than a ten round magazine few options exist. Parts replacement and aftermarket are available for the 10/22 like no other .22lr. Barrels, stocks, triggers, magazines(new 25 round from ruger!), everything! Also check out tntoutdoors9 on youtube, he hasn't done a thing to his 10/22 and it's a real shooter.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/mastiffhound/Photo_32D0B9F4-2B91-20BD-AD1E-F2C8F83C8484-2.jpg

KG363
January 4, 2012, 11:56 PM
If I were to get the Savage Mk II FVT and wanted to get a new stock for it, how would I go about doing that. I don't own or have experience with tools.

BinhThuyUSN
January 5, 2012, 12:06 AM
kg363, I, too, started with a 22 lr as my first rifle. I chose the CZ 453 American and I really like to shoot this rifle. It has been and continues to be an accurate rifle. I have attached a picture. The rifle has a Bushnell 12 - 20 x 40 scope mounted on it. Just my 2 cents.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/BinhThuyUSN/Rifle%20and%20Target%20Range%20Pictures/IMG_1238.jpg

Enjoy whatever rifle you chose.

Bob

AK Gun Man 88
January 5, 2012, 12:12 AM
KG363, Boyd's has gunstocks for the Savage Mark II. You will also need to get trigger guard and mag plate with it. Don't worry, Boyd's has both listed as accessories for the stock you choose.

KG363
January 5, 2012, 12:13 AM
Thanks! I'm having trouble between the CZ and the Savage MkII FVT. The Savage apparently has a crummy stock while the CZ is a tad more expensive and I like peep sights, which I'm trying to find for the CZ

EDIT:
@AK Gun Man, I'll look that up. Does the rifle just fit in with the stock without modification?

Red Tornado
January 5, 2012, 12:18 AM
KG,
Have you gone through the Savage site? They have several wooden stock options which might be preferable to an aftermarket. But aftermarket stocks are usually drop-in with just a screwdriver. If you don't have a screwdriver, go get a set. :)

BCRider
January 5, 2012, 12:54 AM
If you're after a bolt rifle then I'll toss another recomendation for Savage onto the pile. I don't have one but the ones I've shot area amazing. They are just plain good rifles. And the Accutrigger just adds that nice topping onto the dessert :D

I've got a Henry lever action of my own and like the others say it's a lovely gun that shoots very nicely. Don't let the alloy receiver put you off. Lots of them are still shooting just fine that were made some 30 years back and the owners are pretty sure they'll still be shooting well in someone else's hands in another 30 years.

Don't pass up on some of the oldies either if you trip over one in your travels. In the last year I've gotten a 1926'ish made Remington 12 pump action. It came with an old Tasco rimfire scope. At 100 yards on a dead calm day I put 10 rounds into a 1.25'ish inch group. And this from a guy that doesn't specialize in rest shooting so the rifle is likely better than this. So there's some very nice used jewels out there as well. And shooting with a .22 pump rifle produces stupid amounts of grins :D

Mind you until you get to know what to look for in a used gun it's likely best to stick with new.

toivo
January 5, 2012, 04:17 AM
There are way too many good 22s to say which one is the best. I know this because I have over 40, 22 rifles and love most of them, the others I just like.
Nice rifles, Gunny.

Another vote for a bolt action. You'll always keep it, even after you buy all your tricked-out semi-autos and your lever-actions, and what-not.

I say Savage or CZ. If you get an iron-sighted 452, you can add one of these:

http://shop.cz-usa.com/P-19012/452-Adj-Peep-Sight-W-Target-Knobs.aspx

It works with the stock front sight. Looks like they're out of stock -- you can order them direct from Williams, but they're a lot more expensive for some reason.

Those Savage FVTs from CMP are only available to clubs that have a recognized youth shooting program. It's not like the Garands and carbines that individuals can buy once they're qualified. CMP wants documentation of your program. You can buy those rifles elsewhere for around $350. It's a heavy-barreled rifle, which isn't something you'd want to carry around in the field all that much. The trigger is better than the CZ trigger out of the box, but the CZ trigger can be made much better with a simple kit that you can install yourself. Search "yodave trigger kit" and see what comes up.

I think the standard Savage MKII is one of the best deals out there these days. However, the CZ is a much "classier" rifle, if that matters to you.

Happy shopping!

KG363
January 5, 2012, 10:52 AM
@CJ, That was a great, well informed recommendation. Thank you. I really like the savage that you recommended, but are there aftermarket iron sights available? If not, I might just forgo the peep sights in order to have a better stock.

Magpie
January 5, 2012, 12:42 PM
+1 for the Marlin model 60. Crazy accurate, reliable and good price too

GunFit
January 5, 2012, 07:37 PM
I am also shopping for a 22lr bolt action. I have decided on the Savage Mk II F. I can't really beat the price at $127.00. I'll get over the synthetic stock and might even convert it to wood later.

ntex2000
January 5, 2012, 08:28 PM
If you really would like to make a solid introduction I would than highly recommend a bolt action rifle. Stay away from the semi auto, tacticool stuff. These are too much fun too shoot and like myself, you will probably lack the discipline to learn proper marksman ship skills. Go with a marlin XT22 or Savage Mark II series, their are other but not within the prize range you want, or ignore what I said go with ruger 10/22, marlin 60, cz. Check the pawn shops for a good deal.
I agree that the Savage Mark II BV is an excellent, accurate, quality bolt action .22 rifle. It has the great adjustable "Accu-Trigger", which can be adjusted down as light as about 2.5 lbs. I bought mine a few months ago on sale from Cabela's for only $299, but it's sort of a special edition of the Mk II BV called the Mark II-BVG model, with the "G" standing for the gray laminate stock. Typical Mk II BV's come with the brown laminate stock. Plus mine came configured with the heavy target barrel AND a Bushnell rimfire scope. Without the scope combo, the Mk II BV's are going to run you around $300, and it's great quality for the money. I adjusted my Accu-Trigger down to 2.5 lbs. and have shot quarter size groups with it from a bench rest at 50 yards. It is definitely my favorite all around .22 rifle.

Here's a pic of the Mk II BVG:

http://www.huntingriflesreviews.com/images/reviews/76-MARK-II-BV-XP-main.jpg

kludge
January 5, 2012, 10:19 PM
Call Savage and ask them if you can order a FVT with a wood or laminate stock. I bet you they say yes. The BV stock is quite nice; that's what I have. It's a tad low in the comb for a scope, but would be perfect with the irons.

The FVT deserves a better stock IMO, but they probably don't sell any other than to youth shooting clubs and Boy Scouts, who are more than happy to save some bucks.

Jim PHL
January 6, 2012, 12:33 PM
I've been thinking about .22's lately because I want to go shooting more than I can afford to with my centerfire handguns. I was surprised recently when it occurred to me I had never owned a .22 rifle. Yeah, I'd love a new 10/22 with all the cool gadgets, but I just wanted something to start with.

I bought a well-used Marlin Glenfield Model 60 for less than $50 OTD at my favorite LGS. The bluing was not too bad, the stock was pretty well nicked and scratched-up, the feed tube was slightly bent and you could pull the bolt back, release it and take a sip of your coffee before it closed all the way. I referred to a youtube video showing me how to completely disassemble it and just cleaned it up as best as I could. I had it on the range for the first time just last week and....FUN!

IT may or may not be capable of dime-sized groups. Doesn't matter because I'M not capable of dime-sized groups! But it was lots of fun on the range and I can't wait to take it to my friends cabin and move some stuff around outside with it! Just get something to shoot and shoot it...it will tell you what else you may want or need in a gun. This one told me it was all I need... for now.

kfgk14
January 6, 2012, 04:44 PM
CZ452 Ultra Lux. Wonderful bolt gun. I own two. Love me a CZ.

KG363
January 8, 2012, 01:20 AM
Thanks a lot for that info! I'll try talking to Savage.

KG363
January 10, 2012, 11:47 AM
I've actually been doing a lot of thinking and I have fallen in love with the CZ 455 Lux. It's perfect, although it doesn't have peep sights. The sights seem more than satisfactory and it seems like a terrific rifle.

mdauben
January 10, 2012, 12:35 PM
My choices for reasonably priced starter guns:

Semiauto

Ruger 10/22
Marlin 60
Bolt

Savage Mk II
Marlin XT-22

ATLDave
January 10, 2012, 12:49 PM
Another one to consider is a Remington Fieldmaster, which is a .22 pump action. My dad grew up shooting one, and he got me one of my own when I was 15. Quite accurate, super reliable, handles .22 shorts and longs if you want to shoot something other than LR. Just throwing it out there as an option.

22-rimfire
January 10, 2012, 01:21 PM
Need a bolt action 22 rifle...?

My suggestion is a Savage Mark II with the peep sights. If you don't like the composite stock, you can always buy an after market stock to fit it easily.

Second choice would be CZ 452 Trainer. It has excellent sights, but not peep sights.

goon
January 10, 2012, 02:19 PM
I'd buy a Savage and probably be happy with it. Having said that, last weekend we had my CZ-452 out to the range and even at 100 yards, it's such a sweet shooter. I was shooting at a large sheet of ice I set up against the target stand and I could see the holes as they appeared. I wasn't that hard to put shot after shot in the same place and just watch the hole grow bigger. Back when I first got it I had it scoped and it literally will put five shots into the same one-hole group at 50 yards.
I use the issue military style sights now because I just find them a lot more fun. Walking an aluminum can around with a .22 at 100 yards or more is something everyone should try from time to time.

CZguy
January 10, 2012, 02:44 PM
I use the issue military style sights now because I just find them a lot more fun. Walking an aluminum can around with a .22 at 100 yards or more is something everyone should try from time to time.

Now that's my kind of shooting. I had to install a Lyman peep on mine because of my age. But I still prefer to shoot an iron sighted rifle.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/badgerone/CZpeepsight.jpg

toivo
January 10, 2012, 03:25 PM
I've actually been doing a lot of thinking and I have fallen in love with the CZ 455 Lux. It's perfect, although it doesn't have peep sights. The sights seem more than satisfactory and it seems like a terrific rifle.
If you still want peeps, go for the Williams FP-CZ dedicated rear peep that works with the stock front sight, or contact user "Brnomann" on RimfireCentral.com and ask him about Brno peep sight sets for CZ rifles.

zxcvbob
January 10, 2012, 03:28 PM
If you stumble onto a good deal for a Browning SA-22, grab it! It's probably gonna be out of your price range but you might get lucky on a used one.

goon
January 10, 2012, 04:50 PM
CZguy - I love my 452 but I'm thinking that with a set of tech sights the 10/22 could also be a lot of fun for "long range" .22 plinking.

CZguy
January 10, 2012, 07:43 PM
CZguy - I love my 452 but I'm thinking that with a set of tech sights the 10/22 could also be a lot of fun for "long range" .22 plinking.

Of course a 10/22 with good iron sights would be fun for long range shooting. I have a 10/22 rifle (not carbine) that I put these sights on http://www.midwayusa.com/product/846604/williams-wgrs-ru22-guide-receiver-peep-sight-set-with-fire-sight-ruger-10-22-aluminum-black and really enjoy.

I've never met a .22 that I didn't like.

pazz
January 10, 2012, 08:26 PM
Some others on my mind are the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22

There are so many after-market parts for this one. You can customize them to your hearts desire.

dadsvenom
January 11, 2012, 03:59 AM
I have a real old Winchester, serial # wait for it..... 826. That's right 826. It is nickel steel barrel. What is the best way to bring it up to almost original condition. Can you re-nickel it or just re-blu it. What will happen to the value if I do it either wasy? Thanks

CZguy
January 11, 2012, 06:24 AM
I have a real old Winchester, serial # wait for it..... 826. That's right 826. It is nickel steel barrel. What is the best way to bring it up to almost original condition. Can you re-nickel it or just re-blu it. What will happen to the value if I do it either wasy? Thanks

Welcome to the high road dadsvenom.

Photo's would be very helpful, and you may want to start your own thread. But as a general rule refinishing old guns ruins the value.

GunFit
January 12, 2012, 09:05 AM
I picked this little toy up the other day. Savage Mk. II F. It doesn't have the AccuTrigger and the stock leaves something to be desired. However, for what I paid, it is easy to get over those two small things. Besides, the trigger is very short and the pull is pretty light. I might put a small scope on it and plink away a box of 500. :D
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=156760&stc=1&d=1326372987

wjt
January 12, 2012, 06:06 PM
I'd say hit the gun shows and buy every $5-$20 beater and refinish them. You're bound to find to find a nice rifle under all the gunk. You'll find it becomes very addictive and a nice hobby, and a money maker when you sell them for $100 after clean up.

Walt

Red Tornado
January 12, 2012, 06:31 PM
Walt, you've got better gunshows than I do around here. I never see $20 rifles, and I look hard. It's almost unheard of to find anything under $100 anymore. :( If you do find a $20 rifle, it's unlikely to be worth $100 with a cleaning, it will almost certainly need repair.

Dadsvenom,
Welcome to THR, but open another thread instead of hijacking this one. You'll get plenty of replies. Especially if you post pics, we love 'em.
RT

jimg45
January 13, 2012, 01:41 AM
Nice little arsenal you have there. I picked up a nib Savage model 93RFV .17HMR yesterday. I'm bedding the stock before the first round goes down range. Wish I could get one of those guys at Quantico to work it over!;)

jimg45
January 13, 2012, 01:43 AM
CZguy
"When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have
enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash."

And, if it is at night take it down to 500ft and turn the landing light on. If you don't like what you see . . . turn it off!

zonzin
January 13, 2012, 11:54 AM
The 572 is an awesome .22 rifle. It is accurate , fun to shoot, easy to clean, easy to load, and bonus,, the 15 round capacity is not limited by the California 10 round mag limit!!

Love this gun.

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Rimfire/Model-572/Model-572-BDL-Fieldmaster/572-field-prod.ashx


http://us.wholesalesports.com/storefront/renderImage.image?imageName=Hunting/301291_main.jpg

wjt
January 15, 2012, 10:00 AM
Ya, Red, I guess you're probably right. It's been quite a while since I've done this(10-15 yrs). Around here the shows got smaller and smaller till they pretty much dried up. But under all the grime and rust was some nice walnut and pretty accurate shooters.

That said, I'm sure it's still pretty easy to find some neglected guns for cheap and with a little time and effort, one could have something that would bring you more pleasure than a new gun would. But then, I just like older guns better.

Walt

corky52
January 15, 2012, 12:57 PM
See if you can find a vintage Remington 5 teen series, 510,512, etc. Bolt action, solid, simple, relatively inexpensive. If you can find a nice one, it'll hold its value, too. I have a 1949 Model 512. Tube mag, bolt action. She's a corker. Many squirrels and rabbits have met their match. Out of 5 or 6 .22s she's my favorite. Might be because she was given to me gently used on my 10th birthday by a family friend. Wow that was 40 years ago. Lots of good memories with that one!
JMHO

catnphx
January 16, 2012, 03:20 AM
When I was a teenager in the '70's, I used a lever .22lr to win a Winchester Model 190 .22lr in a gun club shooting contest. The Model 190 turned out to be the funnest gun I ever owned. As a kid, nothing like being able to shoot off about 17 rounds of .22lr as fast as your finger will pull the trigger. I shot many, many thousands of rounds with that gun. Just over the Christmas break, I cleaned that dirty gun up and plan on taking it out again ... can't wait.

Harrod
January 28, 2012, 04:00 PM
I have a Savage 64 myself, it shoots great and I like it don't get me wrong. But I really wanted a bolt action, still do. Just something about the bolt that is more appealing to me I guess. I have to sell my 64 before I can get a bolt though.....wife's rule :(

Either way, there are a lot of great suggestions here for you so it all comes down to your preferance. Marlin makes a great .22 as does savage, Ruger's 10/22 can look pretty much like whatever you want it to with all its crazy options (I like how they shoot too....not a bolt though!) It's all pretty much pick and go. I know I'm no help......

MCgunner
January 28, 2012, 06:03 PM
Never pass up a good bolt action Remington in a pawn shop. Mine is a 50 years old ninth birthday present and with the right ammo, can fire a 1 hole 50 yard group. It really likes RWS target, but it does pretty danged well, sub one inch at 50, with bulk pack Federal. The trigger is a little rough, but I'm used to it.

Ignition Override
January 28, 2012, 09:05 PM
Why were few, if any .22s built with aperture sights?

The British did this with the Enfield #4 before WW2, and it is easy to insert or remove the bolts.
Maybe the improvement for .22s would be similar to what I found recently, after installing a Tech Sight on my SKS.

Ghost Tracker
January 28, 2012, 09:12 PM
Why were few, if any .22s built with aperture sights? Because, with obvious exceptions, most .22s are build for a lower (affordable) price-point. Aperture sights are (generally) more expensive to manufacture than open sights. American hunters were/are also (generally) more accustomed to open sights, so when Dad or Gramps buys a .22 rifle for Junior, it usually has open sights.

MCgunner
January 28, 2012, 11:17 PM
I didn't like the aperture on my Mossberg 152 my step dad gave me in 1966. It's an old gun, still a good shooter, but the rear aperture broke off and I just stuck a scope on it. I gave it to my daughter/SIL. It's a decent little auto, but is only super accurate with Eley Match.

I had another, an old Winchester single shot bolt gun, the kind you had to cock the striker before firing. It had an aperture dove tailed into the barrel. I took the sight off and put it on my Rossi 92 and that's where it's been ever since. I also pulled the aperture out so it'd be a ghost ring. I like it a lot on that gun as it's got repeatable numbered wheel slick elevation adjustment and I can switch from shooting light .38 to full power magnums really easily. :D

One can always put a Williams on the gun and I've seen apertures designed to fit in the tip off grooves on many .22s.

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